/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

>why do Christians marry if the Bible says it is better to not marry?

>why do Christians not read the Bible 16 hours a day with 15 minute lunch breaks?

>why do Christians not just emigrate to Africa?

Why aren't you on porn websites leaving evangelical comments on videos? Seems a little bit selfish tbhfam.

>>617207

>seems to be a bit, you know

Despite all your seemings and you knows, Genesis 1:28 says to be fruitful and multiply.

>>617209

Understandable.

>>617211

They were like the first couple on earth. They needed to breed like rats and fill the earth of course. But now, earth is filled more than enough.

>>617217

>But now, earth is filled more than enough.

I don't think so.

>>617207

Because Christians wrongly worship marriage to humans and child-making.

>>617217

>earth is filled more than enough

No, there's still plenty of room.

>>617219

>>617224

Can't you tell the difference between enough and overload?

>>617227

I take it you've never considered the lilies in the field …

>>617217

I think what we're dealing with here is an issue of ideals vs practicables. While it certainly would be beneficial if every Christian was a "super-Christian", our time is very limited, and we cannot be a master of all trades. Even the Holy Spirit distributes different gifts to different Christians for differing reasons. Some are teachers, some are prophets, yet others speak in tongues. But clearly, not everybody should aspire to be a prophet, and not everybody should aspire to speak in tongues. Should the foot aspire to be a head, or the nose a finger?

In a similar way, not everybody is cut out for adopting exclusively. But of course, there should be social support for those who will do it.

>>617217

If we gathered all humans on the planet into one space, they'd be able to fit into an area size of Rhode Island, a practical microstate.

We have plenty of space, it's just that we consume like motherfuckers.

>>617207

Hi leftypol. How have you been lately?

>>617230

Well, I know that an ideal can't always be brought into reality, but an ideal has to be established as a model for everyone to follow. In my OP, I said "Why is it considered good…" not "Why is it allowed…".

>>617229

>>617231

Not worrying doesn't mean that you shouldn't care. I have said that I'm anxious about overpopulation, but we shouldn't live in excess either. Besides, my post has literally nothing to do with overpopulation. It's just about raising children.

>>617238

leftypol?

>>617240

Maybe you are from leftypol. Maybe you are from reddit. The only thing I know is that you do not belong here.

>>617242

>you do not belong here

Who, then, but the lost belongs here? Do you think Jesus ministered only to the holy?

>>617207

>Christian orphanages

There are those who are called to take care of those children and those are who are called to take them into family. (((Media))) gives absolutely no fuck about this so as far as the world concern they are non-existent except when they want something to virtue signal with and philanthropy photo ops handshakes and other PR bollocks. Meanwhile, there are still irresponsible fornicators out there who toss out their child. Worse, murder them and forces those sanctuaries to pay for those murders.

Also, you speak like /leftypol/. If you are from there, if you are here to subvert, corrupt, and fool around. Then begone, this is a place for Christian fellowship; if you are genuinely curious then look around and do some soul searching while you are at it.

>>617247

No, I'm a catholic. I know about christian orphanages, and while they're good, I think parental figures are still better. And in my opinion, it's not really ideal to have both biological child and adopted child. No matter how you try to shake it off by giving them equal love, there will always be an uneasiness between your kids. Fornication should be illegalized of course, but it's not a reason to not be charitable. I'm not sure how the rest of the things you said fit into this.

>>617207

"Be fruitful and multiply."

It is one of first things that God said to humans.

>>617251

>I'm not sure how the rest of the things you said fit into this.

You just answered your own question. People tend to love their biological children more, and that is the norm with most cases. But some are called into His service by serving as the little ones parents, sometimes they are the couple that are barren or just charitable people like you wish. And the orphanage gave shelter to them until that day comes, or if our Lord has another plan for them then, grew out of the orphanage.

The media rant was because I assume that you are "one of those".

>>617245

>Do you think Jesus ministered only to the holy?

No, not at all. But those who were Jesus's disciples accepted Him and His teachings.

So, giving you the benefit of the doubt, I'll explain why you have fallen for the atheist mean of overpopulation:

>Scientists know the world -could- support a significantly large population than it currently has if we focused on food rather than luxury

>Bible says be fruitful and multiply. Jesus says the only reason not to be married is if you plan to make a enuch of yourself for the kingdom of God.

Suffering is an essential part of character formation. Children born into this world two hundred years ago would be exposed to 10X the suffering of today. The atheist claim of not wanting to bring children into a crappy world is just silly when compared to the history of the world and conditions of previous ages.

Further, high growth rates are necessary for economic and political stability. Consider the economy like a pyramid, with the rich on top. If the base keeps booming, it pushes the lower levels up and everyone keeps having better economic conditions as they age. If the base is stagnant, this means people have to drop-down from the higher tiers in order to keep the base proportionately filled to the top.

In other words, in an expanding population, the vast majority of people's income improves over the course of their life. In a stable population situation, some people are never going to move up and in a contracting population situation, some people are going to be making less than they did when they were young. That's horribly disheartening and will lead to political unrest.

Long story short, population growth is sustainable, economically and politically expedient, in accordance with the Holy Spirit, and the only people population growth is negative towards are those at the top that don't want competition.

>>617255

Oh, ok. I'm just saying that it should be encouraged more for couples to adopt orphaned children without having biological children. Barren or not, it should be an ideal. I'm not saying that you shouldn't have biological children, but this is the ideal to follow.

>>617259

>Jesus says the only reason not to be married is if you plan to make a enuch of yourself for the kingdom of God.

What verse?

>>617259

>>617264

I presume it's Matt 19, but He said there are also those who are born eunuch.

>>617270

>humanity would still be growing even if you don't reproduce yourself

>Corithians 7:7

This.

>>617245

I believe that this is an imageboard. And that there are certain people that should not frequent those. Reddit might be more your speed

>>617275

>this is an image board

Yet, you've not posted a single image …

You've also forgotten about IDs.

>>617270

>Firstly, OT versus NT.

Corinthians wasn't written by Jesus. FYI.

Also, the very first miracle Jesus enacted during his ministry was at a wedding. Clearly Jesus had a thing for weddings. Stop making excuses and go get married, make babies, and fulfill your purpose in Creation.

>>617278

>Clearly Jesus had a thing for weddings.

Ironic or not this made me giggle.

Tbh anon, I have no problem if you don't believe in Paul, but he was a saintly follower of Christ's teachings and his writings are treated as canon. I also see nothing in his words that falsifies Christ's own words. So, I consider Paul's writings to be true even if he wasn't Christ. He just helped us to understand Christ's teachings better.

>>617270

Take your inb4 and shove it in the face of your haughty japanimation jezebel. God commanded the faithful to be fruitful and multiply repeatedly in scripture and if you're going to post insipid nonsense like

>humanity would still be growing even if you don't reproduce yourself.

Go consider that the Israelites were in their faith blessed to reproduce faster than the pagans.

>>617207

You make a good point OP. However, I think it's also selfish and ironic for homosexuals to actually have children through artificial means, even though their common leftist talking points argue the Earth is over-populated, there are many orphans, etc. Also, there are some Christians who argue against birth control and as a result they have many children.

>>617417

>I think it's also selfish and ironic for homosexuals to actually have children through artificial means, even though their common leftist talking points argue the Earth is over-populated, there are many orphans, etc

I'm seeing this too. But you should also consider that not all leftists believe in the same thing.

>there are some Christians who argue against birth control and as a result they have many children

Aren't they supposed to prove that birthrate can be controlled without contraception?