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153116 No.615692

Hello brothers. Today I'd like to discuss the endurance and triumph of the Orthodox Church, particularly in the former Soviet states of eastern Eurasian. In particular, I'd like to compare this in a Catholic perspective.

This question is mostly regarded towards Catholics, as well as Orthodox, but others are free to comment.

> Why is it that the Orthodox Church has suffered so much recent persecution, and has perservered with faith in Christ?

The Orthodox Church suffered the meaningless slaughter of tens of millions at the hands of the red devilry Communism, and its empire built on the backs of hopeless, tormented slaves. It stretched across a quarter of the world and sought to stamp out the faith and memory of Christ Jesus forever. It had unstoppable earthly amd material power, yet that was all it had. The power of the Holy Spirit kept the faith alive in Russia and Eastern Europe, even when the threat was torture and death. The Orthodox Church now sees a Great Revival, with millions of new Christians in Russia alone.

> inb4 graph of church attendance

Russia is still becoming a Christian nation after recovering from very recent militant atheism. Many of its people are clinging to the old Soviet days, but they will be forgotten. Countries like France have been Catholic uninterrupted for centuries, and yet they're facing a rapid decline in Christianity, same with most of Western Europe. Catholicism is growing mostly in Central Africa, Australia, and parts of Latin America.

However, why is it that the Catholic Church never had to suffer such extreme and disgusting persecution in recent times, yet it is the one that is declining at a rapid rate, while Orthodoxy is growing at an equally rapid rate? And don't bring up persecutions in Biblical times, as Catholicism, Orthodoxy, and all other denominations can take credit for that, as there was only one single movement at the time.

How is Orthodoxy so triumphant, and how is it that it is resisting western decadence, liberalism, and atheism?

Thank you in advance

93fe6d No.615700

>>615692

>Why is it that the Orthodox Church has suffered so much recent persecution, and has perservered with faith in Christ?

My Catholic nation also suffered under communism. Poland is another example of a rising Catholic country.

Orthodox Triumph? You're not the only one fam.


e7a36e No.615702

>>615692

Hard times breed strong men, and all that.


079d2c No.615706


d99624 No.615709

We're lucky to have endured so much suffering… You could say it is our penance for mistreating the Monophysites, then the Latins.

But suffering so much, under the Ottomans then under the Soviets, helped us remember our place as lowly sinners.

I'd be careful about talking about too much of a "triumph" though. Russia is as Orthodox as France is Catholic. But the Church of Alexandria is booming right now, so you can call that a triumph although unrelated.


d99624 No.615713

By the way, I'm not aware of the Catholic Church being on the decline. It's doing well over here, with dozens and dozens of catechumen…


019fdd No.615717

> Why is it that the Orthodox Church has suffered so much recent persecution, and has perservered with faith in Christ?

Orientals and Catholics did the same. And I will argue that in both cases it was more than Orthodoxies ever bared

>Russia is still becoming a Christian nation after recovering from very recent militant atheism.

Catholic countries under communism recover faster and stronger. More than that, Catholics in Vietnam and China are one of the fastest growing particular churches. And it's not after communism but during and against it.

>countries like France have been Catholic uninterrupted for centuries, and yet they're facing a rapid decline in Christianity, same with most of Western Europe.

Are you serious nigga? Have you not heard about great anti-french revolution? One that spawned bolsheviks and all that shit? Last Catholic country in Western Europe was Portugal and that was in 1975.

>However, why is it that the Catholic Church never had to suffer such extreme and disgusting persecution in recent times,

Communism. Nazism. Liberalism. Islamism. All anti-catholic. And it continue to this day on all continents.

>yet it is the one that is declining at a rapid rate, while Orthodoxy is growing at an equally rapid rate?

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>How is Orthodoxy so triumphant, and how is it that it is resisting western decadence, liberalism, and atheism?

Considering that Orthodoxy is in ever worse shape than Catholicism I say bodily - If Orthodox have his triumph now, we are already united with Christ Victor


925af4 No.615719

>>615702

This. I'd also add that it's clear that the West lost the Cold War. Western countries are degenerate multicultural places, while the East still has intact nations and faith, to a much larger degree.


5c89b4 No.615732

Umm… they kinda did?

Just for one example, the mexican gov tried to destroy catholicism about a hundred years ago, and managed to exterminate most of the mexican clerics, yet devout mexican catholicism is a stereotype of its own nowadays.

Any attempts to take triumph or persecution as the sign of being the true faith is kinda stupid.

The JW have been screwed by regimes everywhere since the 1900's, but have had a steady growth rate.

Islam got raped by mongols hard, and its extinction would have been a probable prediction 800 years ago, yet now there are fears of them taking over the old world.

Its foolish.

God has his own reasons for allowing groups to rise or decay.

And i think our martyrs deserve better than to be used as frag score competitions on imageboards.

Pray for us mending the schism instead.


2f1f99 No.615761

>>615692

Is that triumph the reason why Russia has by far the highest abortion rates in Europe?


49b54e No.615790

>>615692

You are taking redditspacing to a whole new level.


1fc7f6 No.615860

Good, unlike everything else the Church blooms under persecution and threat.

>>615732

>the mexican gov tried to destroy catholicism

didn't know about that, interesting

>>615692

>Countries like France have been Catholic uninterrupted for centuries

The eternal frog has damaged Catholicism in Europe more than Lutherans did.




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