/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

>>607596

>Just stay one more hour online, nothing bad will happen.

I legit almost got possessed but Jesus saved me

>God has no gender or sex UwU

>how far towards sin can I go without actually sinning?

Feels legalist man.

>"It doesn't count as porn because *insert bullshit excuse here*"

>>607631

If you're even asking that question, you're sinning.

>"It's okay, you're only focusing on that bad thought for a second. A second won't hurt, right?"

>10 minutes later

>"OOPS well the thought came to its logical conclusion but it's fine you couldn't have prevented it anyway :^)"

This just happened and the best part was that I had multiple points where I could have stopped myself, yet for some reason didn't. In fact, I repeatedly ``fooled myself`` until it was too late. I don't know whether this classifies as advanced intelligence or advanced stupidity, but what I know for certain is that I certainly feel dumb now.

Plz pray for me fellow anons.

>>607669

I know that feel way too well. Every time I tell me I could stop but somehow manage to do olympic level mental gymnastics. After I feel retarded and ashamed

>You know you're an alcoholic and a drug addict; why try to fight it? You'll never give it up completely, so fuck it just go buy some whiskey

Lust. Think I've escaped, but then a girl comes with yoga pants. Or, my own body rebels against me. I haven't masturbated since confession, but have come dangerously, dangerously close.

Thankfully, full-blown pornography does not have a great grip on me.

>>607718

This. Escape if a girl just looks at me, I get bad thoughts

>>607720

*except

>>607603

>Just entertain that lustful thought for a second there's nothing wrong with that especially since that chick wears yoga pants Anon…

>>607718

>Just one time a little peek at nudity online…surely it will not hurt just once

>Nationalism and Christianity are not compatible Anon…go full leftism instead

>>607596

>Hey Anon its okay for you to look at hentai, you aren't going to Fap, just look to see how it will end

>OOPS you fapped, well better luck next time

The worst thing is that I always fall for this trick.

>>607596

>You're already a sinner, why not do [x] sin?

> Porn niggas be like

> Oops I fapped

There was this ignorant fringe poster who would come here and force his erroneous interpretation of bible verses here. Thankfully i am familiar with the New Age and was able to spot it the agenda.

"christ consciousness" https://hooktube.com/watch?v=N9FoEXbqHOk

The mystic interpretation of "The kindom of god is within you" https://hooktube.com/watch?v=N9FoEXbqHOk

"You Are Gods" https://hooktube.com/watch?v=sUH_E3KD52A

Oprah has popularized this awful movement, and the psychology version of the new age has people practicing spiritual mysticism while not believing in spirits.

>>607718

>>607753

What is with you people and yoga pants?! This is the second time I see this. Do you simply have a fetish?

>>607596

>aw, man, it's time to pray

>but it's so long, i'd rather be doing something else

>eh, i'll just pray the introductory prayers

Been happening a lot these days. Lord, forgive me.

>you are worthless, there are billions of people…how can a God care for your life and love you for real?

>you are nothing but a sinner, all you do is worthless…would be better for you to enjoy a life of hedonistic pleasures and self-hatred, for you are damned

>no matter what, you'll die and no one will remember you after a few moments: you were born a failure, you'll die as one

>>607801

Do you live in some nordic country where girls have flat butts?

I'm in an area where I see instagram whore level girls running around who do nothing but squats and running all day to sell themselves to Saudis or some shit

Perpetual state of ignorance

>>607821

I don't look at people's butts, that's weird. But that aside, if the shape of somebody's butt makes you sin, I don't know what to tell you except that you have issues. What other shapes of people's bodies make you sin? Their arms? Their nose? Their legs?

>>607863

Breasts.

>>607870

It is a sin to fetishize the human body. It is made in the image of God after all. Furthermore, the Theotokos had a butt and had breasts - would you fetishize her for that too?

Remember that the human body is holy. None of it must be treated like a piece of meat.

>Who cares? It's just one more hour online

>You're strong enough! You won't fall into lust

>What could it hurt if you just peek at porn for a second?

>No, procrastinating is good. It feels good. Evening prayers can wait

>It's so early. Just go back to sleep. You'll get to your morning prayers later

I fall for it every time. Lord, have Mercy.

>>607863

You have the eyes of a Child. God bless you.

>>607801

>What is with you people and yoga pants?

Flavor of the month. Also, people need to find someone else to blame for their own sin.

Sinner: "It's not me! It's those damn yoga pants!"

Jesus: "If thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out. You're the fool staring at the butt. Don't blame the butt."

>>607881

I do the last one every morning, is that bad?

>>607887

This was me before I went to university at age 19, before then I never had an inclination to stare at girls butts and say to my friends 'corrr check that out' or something. I grew up with a non-laddish group of friends but then as soon as I started hanging out with 'lads' at university their ways began to rub off on me. Not that I would openly stare and comment like many did, but from them I learnt that butts are detatched objects to oggle at and be turned on by, something that had naturally never occured to me up at that point. Not saying I didn't jack off to hot wimin when I was younger but it wasn't about the detatched item of the body, but the whole thing (sex) as an experience between two people (i.e. there would be a strong sensual/intimate/personal aspect to fantasy most of then time). Now I've been infected with modern ways which I hope to be relieved of at some point in the future. Unfortuntately because of men's oggling and objectification woman now fixate on their butts as weapons of their sexuality as much as men do as things to consume with their eyes. It's a vicious circile.

>>607863

>Their nose?

A cute nose on a pretty girl can be extreeeeemely attractive and attracting just sayin (but maybe that's less objectifying on account of comprising an element of their face, the most human and humanly communicative thing about them idk)

Also related to theme ITT in general I have solidarity with everyone saying

>just 10 more mins online

or

>just one quick look at that sexy image you just scrolled across

>jesus will totally understand if you kill yourself

>almost fully fell for it

>>607911

It's bad, but I'm guilty of it, too, so yeah

>>607801

Not fetish. It is a good example of clothing that makes it easier for you to fall for lustful thoughts. Nobody says the problem are the pants. The problem are the thoughts obviously.

No fap helped a lot. Basically I don't have fantasies anymore even when I see a girl dressed like a slut. That's now #1 turnoff.

However if a properly dressed, beautiful girl walks around, I do notice.

Sometimes the thoughts may go too far anyway.

If you've never experienced having lustful thoughts when looking at sluts…well good for you. It was a cross of mine for a long time

>>607914

This. The objectification is like an infection you get during the life.

I grew out of that only very recently - I quit porn, I quit fapping and the problem solved itself in the matter of months. Well….God gave me the strength to fix it.

Sluts are no longer a problem for me since I look for a nice girl who could be my future wife. Last time I spoke to a girl that was dressed in a very suggestive manner…all I could think about was how unattractive she was and whether she realized that men who show interest in her probably only care about her flesh, not her soul. Not that she wasn't hot - she was very hot. But there wasn't anything else besides the body and since I had no intention to entertain any lustful imaginations…there was literally zero interest from my point of view. I notice different qualities in women - more of the internal beauty as well as the external. Like…piousness, decent clothing and attitude are the key points now, not just the body.

Tbh I feel alive again and thank God for that every day.

>>607801

>>607863

>>607880

I feel like there's some massive disconnect going on here, either we can't understand your views or you can't understand ours, maybe both. Firstly, I'd hope we can all agree here that whatever way women dress, that is not an excuse to sin. We're not Muslims who will argue that poorly dressed women ought to be raped or something like that. Men need to avoid lusting after women, full stop. We can also surely agree that men with the wrong frame of mind could potentially lust after any sort of women, modestly dressed or not. However, at the same time you would also have to admit that there is such a thing as immodest dress. A woman who shows too much of her body (breasts, butt, legs), when she could in fact dress more modestly, is sinning. Modest dress also depends on what sort of body a women has, and her general level of physical attractiveness. Like it or not, certain female features are liable to provoke sexual desire in men, and must be covered up as much as is reasonable. We are not talking here about banning women from dressing a certain way or anything of the sort, because that's not going to happen anyway. We are not talking about men having an excuse to lust, because there is no excuse. We are talking about the fact that it is indeed a sin to dress immodestly.

>>607863

>Being sexually attracted to butts means you have issues

>/christian/

>>608420

b-but is your wife anon. You can fuck her all the time and you should.

The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife.

>>608429

I know, my libido is so low though it feels like I'm faking it half the time. I wish I still had this insane desire for her, but when I did, I also desired other women (porn).

>>608420

Drink more wine and eat more onions and garlic. The roman way of making your libidio fruitful.

Or give her beer. Monastic way of lowering ones libido.

>>608420

Cardio and lifting. Increase that testosterone, man.

>>608420

NoFap works after a few months m8, just hang on there.

Also it's your wife, you got an obligation to smash her also whenever she wants so try to be up ayy for it.

>you can read the Bible later, instead you can read about this and that on the interwebz

>oh, it's already this late, let's read the Bible tomorrow then

>3pm already? The day is basically over, you can now procrastinate whatever you ought to do for 9 hours until bedtime

>thinking about all my past failures and insufficiency

Basically all the demons of a NEET that have been going on for 3+ years. I feel (borderline) suicidal at times, and I think this is all because I rejected God even though I knew and believed in Him before and committed one sin, one abomination after another for years until recently and now try to go the righteous path again. I am not a whole man, not even the grain of a man. Please pray for me to get my willpower and strength back I once willingly threw out the window because I wanted to experience secular "pleasures".

>>608524

>>608552

Why are Christians so terrified of education?

>>608524

>>608552

t. people who have never actually been to a University

>>608556

We're not. /pol/ is. Ignore /pol/ posters.

>>608556

It's not fear, it's more of an understand of what one sided values are taught there.

>>608557

Leftist is just as anti-christian as well, and you don't have to move to LA to know it's a dangerous place, stupid.

Enjoy getting falsely accused of rape for consenting sex and having your reputation destroyed even when you come out innocent.

>muh /pol/

>>>/leftypol/

>>608569

>getting falsely accused of rape for consenting sex

<if you go to University, you HAVE to have sex

That's just stupid.

>leftypol

<if you don't like /pol/, you MUST be /leftypol/

I have some sad news for you, anon.

>>608587

>completely missing the point, imply we're taking about sexual game.

>if you don't like leftist madness, you MUST be /pol/

>>607880

I mean, I don't feel bad for being attracted to breasts or butts, so no. I hope my wife has curves.

>>608557

>Pretending academia isn't dominated by anti-christ progressivism

It seems like you're not so much afraid of education as you are in love with ignorance

>>608587

>"Ha ha I'm so cool and above it all!"

Have fun being useless (or aiding the enemy while declaring impartiality?), while the people with strong opinions save Christendom

>>608637

Enjoy LARPing in a suit of armor while the world passes you by.

>>608542

>I respect her goals

You don't respect yourself if you let that happen. Again, you are the man in charge and need to tell her what to do. Be a MAN, for Christ's sake. She is not, I repeat, NOT designed to be the breadwinner, you are.

>>608556

>university

>education

top kek

>>608557

>t. people who have never actually been to a University

>implying

Notice how leftypol-crossposters usually post once (1) in a thread and never come back?

>just do it this once, it will be easier for you to stop in the future if you wean off it

That's not how addiction works, Satan.

>>608490

Day 26…well if it's your first round this long you'll probably need about at least 50 days to reset this thinking.

90 days work like a charm.

Stay strong Anon.

>>608557

>>608556

Christian in University. We're not afraid of education, it's just that most schools have become factories for producing women who are unsuitable for married life and motherhood.

>>608638

cheers

>>608729

Yeah. It probably varies from person to person depending on how serious the addiction is. For me about 60 days were sufficient to stop objectifying every woman I meet.

Whatever you do after you reach 90 days, do not fall for 'just once' meme. I regret that. my 90+ streak ended thanks to this meme…took me 2 weeks to get back on the right path because I was slowly relapsing.