/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

>>607048

I support 1, 5, 6, and 2 (because its mutually included in the former). We do most of these naturally anyhow. I find the rest perverse.

>>607068

I don't understand why you would support 6. Positive Genetic Engineering (the basis of a Potential Neo-Eugenics Movement) but oppose 3. Weak AI (Dumb AI such as Siri).

>>607071

I support 6 because we do it naturally when we seek attractive marriage partners. I oppose 3 because I'm not entirely convinced that it doesn't inevitably lead to 4. That and so far most of it has been manipulative and harmful like with how the alphabet agencies and tech companies use it.

>>607048

1-4.

In some cases, 6

>>607075

Meant 1-5, and in some cases 7.

>>607080

The Sci-Fi Depiction of a Nanomachine devouring the entire world transforming it into grey goo is fictitious.

As a tool to cure diseases it is good, but I fear it can be yet another tool satanic government scan use to keep an eye on people.

>>607048

>1

We are masters of creation though after fall creation tend to say "nah m8 fuck off". So we can do with it whatever we want. But we must be careful not to play with God.

And let's look truth in the eyes, we modified plants and animals since Noah. Everd heard about corn or bannnas?

>2

Things are living because they are animated. They are animated because they have anima, soul. There is no synthetic souls. Only God can give souls. That shit ain't flying nowhere.

>3

Done already. Ever heard about videogames?

>4

Done already. They won't gone past thier programing. And even if they create something that can selfprogram they still are bound by program.

>5

Done alredy. Prise the Lord.

>6

Let's don't play God shall we.

>7

For disabled only.

>>607082

Synthetic Biology usually uses animal DNA, so it is essentially animal souls but the animals are synthetically created.

>>607080

Dangerous. But not fundamentally moreso than things that already exist like viruses which are pretty much naturally occurring nanomachines.

>>607048

1)Yes

2)as long as it doest include humans

3)yes

4)depends

5)yes

6)maybe

7)NO

3: Because Weak AI can be helpful and aren't potentially dangerous, and 5: Because genetic diseases that are able to be cured even through technology ought to be as any genetic human ailment that is suffered is a result of the Fall and I personally don't see any reason not to circumvent what Satan would have us suffer through. Anything else is bordering in my mind on tampering with God's creation and plan, though if they come to pass then they have to of course. But just because it comes to pass, does not necessarily mean it is a righteous implementation.

All of the above tbh. So long as it is used to raise humanity rather than to strike it down.

>>607048

>1. Genetically Modified Organisms (Plants and Animals)

I tend to say yes but there are downside to playing God.

>2. Synthetic Biology (Creating new DNA to make synthetic lifeforms)

Kinda playing God here. I`d say no.

>3. Weak AI (AI that cannot learn)

Best AI

>4. Strong AI (AI that can learn)

Limited use. only in labs and not on the streets. You want to take them down fast if they turn against us.

>5. Negative Genetic Engineering (Gene therapy on humans to cure diseases)

But only to cure REAL diseases. People tend to think not enough hair or dark hair or small boobs is a disease.

>6. Positive Genetic Engineering (Genetically engineering humans to enhance their capabilities)

Sounds cool but that would imply we are not happy with the fact that we are created in the image of God and that God`s temple is not the way it should be. Pure heresy in short.

>7. Human Cyborgs (Half man, half machine)

Some can say it is mutilation. Some can say it`s like the prosthetic legs. I think this is ok because it`s not that you modify who you are (DNA), you just boost your body.

>>607048

>1. Genetically Modified Organisms (Plants and Animals)

Sure I guess. Don't know all that much about the subject.

>2. Synthetic Biology (Creating new DNA to make synthetic lifeforms)

No.

>3. Weak AI (AI that cannot learn)

Yes.

>4. Strong AI (AI that can learn)

Only if it doesn't do anything past its programming.

>5. Negative Genetic Engineering (Gene therapy on humans to cure diseases)

Aren't we already doing this? Either way, yes.

>6. Positive Genetic Engineering (Genetically engineering humans to enhance their capabilities)

NO.

>7. Human Cyborgs (Half man, half machine)

Only if it's for prosthetics.

>>607048

>Being against technology to further mankind

Technological progression; social steadfastness in religion and traditions.

Sieg heil, humanity grows closer to God as it advances technologically, while still retaining its beliefs.

We were made in God's image. Ever consider how that might extend beyond visually? Perhaps we have the power to do so much more, and perhaps mirror God in form AND ability. Of course, we'll still be servants to our lord, but we will become powerful.

>>608876

Nah

Dont get me wrong, I support your view in some extents. Sure, we are made in image of God, we are children of God.

But we are fallen and due to this, retarded, so it might end up with disaster, so we must be cautious and skeptical regarding the subject.

>>608880

>It might end in disaster

Literally when? Disaster was caused by the straying of man from God, and the changing of social order. Technological progress will always accelerate mankind, and the very action of doing so pleases the lord.

>>608883

>Technological progress will always accelerate mankind, and the very action of doing so pleases the lord

Chapter and verse pls?

>>608886

>sola scriptura

>not thousands of years of successful tradition

>being this deluded

>>608891

There are ways to preserve our connections to the lord AND transcend onto a higher plane. Was it not technological advancements in shipbuilding that enabled us to head to the Americans and convert millions? I don't separate god and science, for they are one in the same. Science brings us higher; therefore closer to the lord. Unpreventable Suffering is mitigated through genetic research and cure. Feudalism was an incredible time, but we can still reach a similar level of spiritual devotion under a very advanced fascist state. God and country, anon, and all that furthers it

>>608893

The last time fascism was tried it was a disaster. Why do you think it'll do any better now?

>>608887

Is there anything in the tradition of any church that would support the claim that “technological progress will always accelerate mankind, and the very action of doing so pleases the lord”? Technology might be a useful tool, but it is not inherently good, and neither does technology inherently bring us any closer to God. Just look at our society.