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1aae7e No.604829

Hello. This is both a religious and political question, but I am going to ask my fellow Christians this rather than my fellow countrymen since they all have their own agendas. I'll keep this short.

I'm a Lebanese Christian, a Maronite East Catholic. My people were once the sole leaders of Christian Lebanon. In the Civil War, the Maronites allied with Israel to destroy the Muslims and Arabs/Palestinian invaders, but failed. My question here is: who should I support; Israelis/Jews, or Arabs/Muslims? And don't say neither, because my people need some form of ally in this hostile region.

On one hand, Muslims 'claim' to honor Jesus and Mary, and are against Western invasions such as the bloodbath that was Iraq (which I do NOT support obviously). They oppose Jews and hate them, who have slurred against Christ and Mary in their sickening Talmud.

On the other hand, while the Jews may have a more disgusting scripture, their actions are far better than that of Arabs. Arabs raped, tortured, and killed Mid East Christians since the dawn of time. They claim to be our brothers, yet blow up our churches, kidnap children, and start jihad over nothing. Meanwhile, the allegedly 'evil jews' are actually very welcoming of middle eastern christian refugees, and there are a few maronite towns in Israel. I've also heard many Israelis I've known say that they wish Israel would have let ALL of the christians from Lebanon in. I've never heard a muslim say anything of that sort.

So, who is a better friend for a Christian? A jew or muslim? No conspiracies please. If you post a graph of a few radical orthodox jews destroying a statue of Mary, I can pull up three articles from the past MONTH of Muslims doing the same. Give me some theological and political perspective, I can't stand my indecisiveness when it comes to these two factions, and I'd like to pick one or the other.

adf69a No.604831

>>604829

The average muslim IQ has been destroyed by inbreeding, they're much easier to handle


1aae7e No.604832

>>604831

No, that's exactly why they're a problem. They're a bunch of barbarians with no thought process other than jihad, and their lack of intellect causes them to disregard human life


c6c7f0 No.604834

From your words you clearly seem to think the Jews are the lesser evil, and as someone actually in the region I'm sure you have a better grasp of the situation than us. So who am I to tell you different?


1aae7e No.604844

>>604834

No, but I don't think of myself as an expert and I wanted to see others' opinions. Just because I believe one thing doesn't mean I'm right


adf69a No.604854

>>604832

Strategically, one should greatly prize an enemy he can predict with extreme accuracy.


da4b19 No.604874

>>604829

>And don't say neither, because my people need some form of ally in this hostile region.

Death is better than allying with the satanic people who literally murdered God Himself.


fbaaf1 No.604875

>>604829

Israel.

Realpolitik trumps memes.


adf69a No.604888

>>604875

>Realpolitik

That's what has been driving the world for all living memory and even beyond, and look at where we are now. It's time to get principled again.


613dbb No.604891

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>>604829

As much as some might hate me for saying it, but in this case I'd side with the Jews. You ought to know that most Jews as well as Muslims and Zionist (Churchianity) Christians are nothing else but marionettes in the hands of Zionist Jews, which make comparatively a few to the 20 million Jews that exist. You ought to know that also: before the religion of the Holocaust, the Jews were greatly divided among themselves; this is why you see Orthodox Jews publicly declaring that they are against the state of Israel or the Zionist agenda and the like. But find out as much as you can from both sides what their agenda might be. Because we cannot forget that all the wars in Iran only exist because it is one of the few nations in the world that aren't hooked into the World Banking System.

Don't get me wrong, I despise Jews and Muslims alike, but Jews are generally smarter and are, lineagely speaking, descendants of Isaac, while those savage Muslims are that of Ishmael.


adf69a No.604897

>>604891

Why the hell would you pick a smart enemy to fight later, after they've had access to your infrastructure and learned its ins and outs? Do you have brain damage?


c3fe33 No.604900

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It's a hard choice, I don't think I need to tell you that. You obviously can't trust either of those, you must use them to further your own ends to whatever capability you can, because they're going to do the same.

The difference is, I think, that the jews would still think that they would have some use out of you if the muslims were no longer a problem (even something as simple as jewing you for money), whereas the muslims would most likely start jihading as soon as they believe that they no longer need your support against the jews.

The best option, both politically and theologically would be to not side with either party while you grow in strenght, but sadly that's not relistically possible from what I understand. Do keep in mind that I have very limited knowledge of this conflict and situation, but i'd say jews.


613dbb No.604906

>>604897

>Why the hell would you pick a smart enemy to fight later

Nigger, every advanced civilization is a kiked shithole. Lebanon is already kiked, even though it isn't as obvious. At least those enemies won't be as fruitful as those savages, since the Jews have not inherited the blessing of being fruitful (and forgetful).


adf69a No.604915

>>604906

It's one thing to be chronically infected with "jews", but allying yourself with "jew" HQ is beyond retarded


613dbb No.604927

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>>604915

Not an argument.


adf69a No.604929

>>604927

Right back at you


1aae7e No.604960

>>604874

So where do they live? there are either muslim lands or one jewish state. And also, religious priestly jewish leaders as well as romans killed Jesus, as well as those that chanted for His death. I don't believe literally every single jew in the world is responsible. Most of them aren't very religious at all


1aae7e No.604962

>>604900

I agree. Muslims have proven that they will jihad and massacre thousands when they perceive themselves to be stronger than the enemy, then play victim when they're a minority. Jews may not be perfect, but Israelis aren't seeking the genocide of all arameans.


b473c0 No.604970

Support both? We are all made in the image of God according to the Bible.


b473c0 No.604971

Paul the Apostle was of course a Jew who persecuted many Christians before his conversion.


cdb484 No.604993

Lebanese anon. I am going to consider your thread here seriously and read all of it and try to provide you with a response.

God bless you!

I met another Lebanese brother who was a monk in a Greek Orthodox Church here in the United States.

He was a very respectable fellow.


cdb484 No.605008

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15 ¶ Beware of false prophets which come to you in sheepes clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

16 Yee shall knowe them by their fruits: Doe men gather grapes of thornes, or figges of thistles?

17 Even so, every good tree bringeth forth good fruit: but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evill fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit, is hewen downe, and cast into the fire.

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.


1aae7e No.605088

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>>604993

>>605008

To be honest, this sounds like a description of Islam and Arabs. They pretend to be our brothers, then jihad the instant we turn our backs. Contrary to conspiracy theories, I actually don't think Jews are deceiving genociders at all. I've never heard of any Israeli targeting Christians for extermination.

And thanks man. Ask him what Middle East Christians should be called, other than Middle East Christians. We aren't Arabs or Jews. Some say Aramean works


deb789 No.605181

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Aren't shiites a better option than sunnis? This has to be said it's not just about jews vs muslims. And not all muslims are arabs.

I'd also like to point out that Israel might not be sustainable long term and allying yourself with it might leave you alone in a few decades.

Besides, shia crescent is a thing and I don't see anything but it strengthening. From what I know of Middle Eastern geopolitics, Iran is where the smart ones invest.




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