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File: 27eba9994a2a88e⋯.png (794.11 KB, 686x1024, 343:512, STRONG_PAGANS.png)

a8f960 No.603065

Post memes and anything debunking pagan memes ITT

33f15c No.603068

>>603065

tbh this kind of rings of the abortion map

but maybe i'm just salty because america is babylon


e251d9 No.603076

File: 6fdee95d813012a⋯.png (862.47 KB, 750x1334, 375:667, (((pagans))).png)

File: c7b463619b4bb08⋯.jpg (121.49 KB, 791x555, 791:555, btfoingpagans.jpg)

File: 267d9e88e5f2b52⋯.png (167.41 KB, 586x492, 293:246, cockmilk.png)


e251d9 No.603078

File: 7ea7c27f2f9863c⋯.png (357.18 KB, 1070x447, 1070:447, newagefaggots.png)

File: 4c302c2e31601bc⋯.png (292.72 KB, 1236x604, 309:151, poganielol.png)

File: 3374ab419448ba8⋯.jpg (106.58 KB, 584x584, 1:1, larp.jpg)

File: 23d82f1c30063e4⋯.jpg (120.55 KB, 960x783, 320:261, lokixd.jpg)

part2


e251d9 No.603079

File: 04660a5f91913c1⋯.jpg (2.63 MB, 1248x5557, 1248:5557, we saved rome.jpg)

File: 08faf842098b16d⋯.png (17.87 KB, 610x505, 122:101, truecolors.png)

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File: e2b2d814f7f92ed⋯.jpg (295.39 KB, 1000x902, 500:451, virginksvschadelts.jpg)

part3


e251d9 No.603080

File: c0cc803feab5473⋯.png (851.85 KB, 600x2560, 15:64, ZOONX-DD.png)

File: 9c8c31f232f790d⋯.jpg (362.74 KB, 1532x763, 1532:763, wikingowie.jpg)

File: f382ec18b732c49⋯.png (565.5 KB, 1900x2635, 380:527, Xpoints.png)

And that's all I got


bbea49 No.603167

File: 9bef1b4193a14eb⋯.jpg (37.42 KB, 480x390, 16:13, disappointed.jpg)

>>603079

>That reading of Ephesians 5:11

oh 8chan


362f0b No.603233

>>603079

Biggus dickus right there


e276f4 No.603269

>>603076

That "Odin sucking cocks" excerpt is a spectacularly bad thing to post in actual conversation with pagans, because they will (correctly) point out that it's from a modern book written by a pervert trying to normalize homosexuality. It's not a source a Christian should be comfortable using, and it's a great way to get people to disregard everything else you bring to the table.


e2573d No.603273

File: cd602cb9cbeaf1d⋯.jpg (428.25 KB, 1034x732, 517:366, cd602cb9cbeaf1d1c09a45b918….jpg)

>>603269

Hi Varg


90b4dc No.603282

>>603269

Literally their whole cult is made up by modern books you brainlet. There is literally nothing that is "tRADiTiOnAl" to that """religion""" except one or the other thing that carried over anyway - that is: without the help of the occult revivalists in the late 19th century.


9f261f No.603309

File: ccc287170472b54⋯.jpg (1.33 MB, 1929x2643, 643:881, Alt right esoteric fag 1.jpg)

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9f261f No.603310

File: 75c115efc2be0d2⋯.png (39.88 KB, 500x193, 500:193, 75c115efc2be0d20b88028a5a2….png)

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e2573d No.603313

File: c7fad4b553f7238⋯.png (106.31 KB, 1018x223, 1018:223, Screenshot_20170731-231541.png)

>>603309

>pic 2

I made this cap soon after that one


24ebe8 No.603316

File: 1a608fdd0b5a5c7⋯.png (290.52 KB, 698x576, 349:288, Screenshot_2.png)


362f0b No.603318

>>603313

Most anti-natalist are faggots except Gary and Cohle


0f45d7 No.603322

File: 4c1eacc70c80586⋯.jpg (87.16 KB, 960x909, 320:303, 1504549547395.jpg)

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File: bac87f69d44202a⋯.jpg (20.06 KB, 720x142, 360:71, odin christianity.jpg)

>>603310

>Third pic

>Source: Tabletalks

It's a forgery:

https://codoh.com/library/document/4880/

The original documents upon which it is supposedly based were never found. And those responsible for it are known for multiple cases of academic fraud.

Not to mention Bormann's anti-Christian bias and how it contradicts other reputable sources.


e2573d No.603328

>>603318

>Cathars? On my /christian/?

>It's more likely than you think!


362f0b No.603339

File: 2c9e99893b9ba7d⋯.jpeg (18.08 KB, 362x346, 181:173, images (44).jpeg)


362f0b No.603344

>>603328

Seriously what the fuck are you trying to say?


e2573d No.603356

>>603339

>>603344

I'm calling you an antinatalist sympathizer. Accepting any of them is ridiculously heretical.


362f0b No.603363

>>603356

Yeah nice opinions

Jordan "hapa" peterson made an ass of himself when he debated David Benatar


e251d9 No.603377

>>603363

>opinions

Behold the inheritance of the Lord are children: the reward, the fruit of the womb.

Cathars and rest of Anti-natalist call inheritance of Lord and his reward to people evil.


362f0b No.603469

>>603377

Fruitful catholic countries like brazil and mexico are so beautiful life is so great

10/10 would rather have been there


e2573d No.603472

>>603469

>the world is incorrupt, sin does not exist

When you understand you've made an ass of yourself, stop talking


362f0b No.603486

>>603472

Nice fallacy

Go live in brazil to see how fun exitence is for the average person


362f0b No.603497

>>603079

Kek and the second image

If you ever been in an atheist phase you should know how much of a big pile of shit mother nature is yet pagans would throw all that knowlege down the drain and say they must go back to nature like a pozzed hippie


e2573d No.603499

>>603486

What did I just tell you? Nobody knows who you are so you don't have to try to save face, just stop shitting up the board


362f0b No.603507

>>603499

>nobody knows who you are

Thats kinda the point of an anonymous imageboard but faggots like you just love to feel important like if the world would stop spinning if you disappeared.

Imagine being so assblasted by a philosophy that it makes you angry lmao


e2573d No.603508

>>603507

>imagine getting mad at heresy lmao what a loser

Truly you are in dire need of saving faith


362f0b No.603522

>>603508

>philosophy is a religion

Wew lad

Id rather sage


1dedf6 No.603526

The first ten books in The City of God do a pretty solid job of tackling paganism.


e276f4 No.603530

>>603322

>>603309

Why do you continue to post excerpts from a book arguing that homosexual behavior is socially constructed as deviant rather than intrinsically disordered? Do you believe this is a reputable source about what your premodern people believed and did, rather than a collection of dubious anecdotes arranged to best support a Satanic agenda? Later in the book the author argues that Christian monastic communities were hotbeds of homosexual activity, do you believe he is telling the truth there?

When you use bad arguments against a false claim, you just embolden the people who believe it to dismiss you when you make good arguments.


a12605 No.603536

>be christian /pol/ack

>/pol/ is rather crappy today, so let's see what /christian/ is doing, are they fighting degeneracy that is all around?

>no, they're up against "pagan" white nazees who triggered them online again

>just like last week they were having the "racism is a sin thread"

Wonderful… all these "memes" boil down to "european gods ate cum and were cuckolds" and "vikings were, acshualy, bad fighters who were only fearead because they were dumb, lol", yeah nevermind that Scandinavia with it's 200k population colonized Frankia who had 14 million people… This is not just /leftypol/ tier, but it's personally insulting to me as someone of that descent.

All the things you could be up against - masonics controlling even this imageboard, trannies dressing as satan to inject hormones on kids, "christian" politicians like Angela Merkel flooding europe with muslims and leaving actually persecuted christians to die… But no, people who love their own roots are the thing… I can see why Hitler clamped down on the church interfering in things beyond religion now…

It all just sounds like you're cringily butthurt at Varg, which, even as a Christian I see as another positive voice against degeneracy - telling people to stop being materialistic, stop "serving two masters" and slave for the (((New World Order))), be self-reliant, stop watching porn, procreate, improve themselves and be proud of their own culture… Can't someone have a freedom of conscience? Does someone have agree with you on everything or he is bad? Honestly Varg acts more like a christian than you "spergs" who only go by saying "repent or burn!!!"…

Extremely dissapointed at you guys…


362f0b No.603556

>>603536

Except Varg is heavily anti-Christian. Go find some backwater youtube videos with Christian historical politics in there and youd see varg incoginto like a cryptojew

Thats why we hate Varg. He doesnt really provide anything on what comes after. Zerk understanding of how precious Christianity actually is.


a12605 No.603562

>>603556

And how christian are you, brother? Shitposting on an imageboard? Then going to work later for some company that donates it's profits to support Satan's degeneracy?

Hitler was also very anti-christian, the guys posting memes about his table-talk: >>603310 should really look into the rest of it's contents. Now, wouldn't the world have been better for christians had he won the war? I dare you to deny that. You know a christian, and most important, an European seeking to do good, can have non-christian allies. Christianity was set in place in the Roman Empire by Constantine who was a non-christian, for fucks sake… To claim Varg, a notorious anti-semite, is a "cryptojew" for not agreeing with you on everything is beyond retarded and you can and should bother with else…


dc49b5 No.603580

>>603536

Killing innocent monks is about as degenerate as it gets, friend.


4f150a No.603797

File: dcb533807827051⋯.png (656.89 KB, 558x863, 558:863, A big guy.png)

Lads you know baganism extends beyond mutts larping as vikings right? Where's the Hindu shit? Or the Tao stuff?


362f0b No.603799

>>603562

hed be alright if he werent so ass blasted by Christianity

the difference between him and hitler is he encourages plays with Dark arts and le spirituality meme

I don't really hate paganism anyway in fact i like the way Odin pecked his eyes out and hanged himself for days.


0f45d7 No.603922

>>603530

>Strawman

The sources are highlighted at the end.

And yes, Aristotle and Siculus are reputable.

>>603562

>Tabletalk

It's worthless.

See the article I linked here: >>603322


a12605 No.604050

>>603799

I think he even said mostly positive things about orthodox churches and catholicism, he even escaped prison in 1999, ostensibly to go to Serbia fight against the Muslims, raiding a norwegian army depot even, to steal weapons to bring. I think his main issue is with protestant churches, how "untraditional" they are, and with the Middle ages church and destruction of paganism.

>>603922

But the very picture said they were factual, trustable and backed by other sources and people. It's definitely not source material, but what is contained there is mostly true, some of the quotes there are corroborated by several people, and the actions of the nsdap, and have never been challenged, many are included in other Table talks and memoirs, like Speer's and Dietrich.

>>603580

But killing kids because they were "witches", supposedly, is the pinnacle of morality, right? Don't get me wrong, but we have to look at ourselfs and our own actions too when judging others, as a group. Not all muslims who defended their lands against crusaders were "degenerates"… To go down into this "attrocity-olympics" for degeneracy points, is a very leftist thing to do…


362f0b No.604072

>>604050

Varg is just a conditioned edgelord by his time. He will of course rationalize it but at his youth hating Christianity is ok and good. He seems to never got out of that phase.


ab3b5c No.604111

>>604050

I don't understand the doublethink required for a Christian to defend a proud murderer and church burner.

You're aware that this madman has a /cow/ thread, right? He's insane.


a12605 No.604119

>>604072

>at his youth hating Christianity is ok and good.

No.

And speaking of "edgelords", have you even looked at this thread? I could debunk every "meme" posted here, not because of any merits of paganism, really, but because they are fallacious and made out of butthurt, they are /leftypol/ tier memes, they're just edgy bullshit designed for shit-flinging at "debates" with people that triggered you. Really, this shit doesn't belong here, or anywhere, this is exactly the kind of d&c thing we warn you not to fall into on at /pol/…

>>604111

Do you really think everyone who disagrees with you is a "madman"? Again, pinnacle of leftist thinking (I'm so righteous and just, the only people that could possibly disagree with me are crazy!). I watch his content as a christian, and he is very reasonable, his own character and a bit crazy, sure indeed.

The only lolcow-worth thing is the butthurt he causes on people assmad about him, creating a "meme thread" out of him triggered over it and so on. And this is pretty sad on you, brothers, he is mostly a good voice that targets formely atheists in Scandinavia anyway… You're doing the jews work for them by caring about "muh natzee pagans" rather than anything else… The doublethink I can't understand is how a christian can be against people like Hitler, who even if not being a christian and execution, made actions that were all but a bless for christians. I'm convinced most of the people behind this thread are just non-whites who hate Germans/Scandinavians.


a12605 No.604123

>>604119

out of being triggered over him and so on*

how a christian can be against people like Hitler, who even if not being a christian and executing priests no less*


4f150a No.604197

>>604119

He needs someone to pray for him, he's clearly lost in regards to understanding of Christianity. With that said, I'm tired of only hearing about him and norse shit whenever paganism is brought up. Shit like Hinduism and Buddhism seem to have a larger following in the new age-er movement.


362f0b No.604223

>>604119

>that triggered you

quote me, brainlet

Whats Varg plans on an ethno state, whats would be its spirituality? oh right didnt think of it because he is your father figure no worse than a jordan peterson fan kek

He calls atheist out? on what? their degeneracy or their beliefs?

be a brainlet somewhere else please


9a5426 No.604227

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

This series is pretty good material against the typical pagan lie; Christianity is jewish!


e276f4 No.604229

>>603922

>And yes, Aristotle and Siculus are reputable.

Aristotle's observational claims (as opposed to his philosophy) aren't reliable. This is the guy who thought men and women had different numbers of teeth, but never bothered to actually check for himself.

Leaving that aside, you didn't quote Aristotle and Siculus directly, which I would have had very little issue with–even if they're wrong, it doesn't show that you're acting in bad faith. You quoted a sodomite, seeking to normalize sodomy, paraphrasing Aristotle and excerpting Siculus to serve his own Satanic purposes.


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9a5426 No.604233

>>604229

>This is the guy who thought men and women had different numbers of teeth, but never bothered to actually check for himself.

You must remember, that all that we have of Aristotle is something written by his students. Lecture notes, mainly.


a12605 No.604237

>>604223

Everyone that doesn't hate someone because of minor disagreements is a Jordan Peterson fanboy? Grow a pair…

He has several videos calling out atheists on both their degeneracy and lack of belief, he even explicitly said that christianity is better than atheism, despite hating christianity. You're the brainlet here, can't see how you're being counterproductive and keeps being perma-triggered by everything. Chill…


e276f4 No.604238

>>604233

Of course. It's not quite fair to Aristotle to judge his thought entirely based on the works we have–which is also why it's not a great idea to use those works to make claims about history.


e276f4 No.604249

>>604229

I also should add that I've attempted to find the excerpted passage from Siculus in any other source and I can't. Every place I find that passage it's an excerpt, and appears to come from a spot where it's quoted in the Gerhard Herm book, The Celts.

So I found a pdf of that book. ( http://www.balderexlibris.com/index.php?post/Herm-Gerhard-The-Celts )

It's worded totally differently, but it does seem to be the same passage on page 57. If I use this new wording, I get no search results other than some faggot's tumblr. Unfortunately, I still don't a way to find it in the original work. Earlier pages do give me some extra info about what else Diodorus Siculus said about the Celts, though, such as that they're all descendants of Heracles. Clearly this guy is doing some serious, grounded history.

In the original, it would be in Book V of Bibliotheca Historica. I haven't yet found a complete translated text of Book V, but in the excerpts I've seen this passage is not there.


0f45d7 No.604257

>>604229

>You quoted a sodomite, seeking to normalize sodomy, paraphrasing Aristotle and excerpting Siculus to serve his own Satanic purposes.

My apologies.

I did't expect that pic to be an excerpt from subversive literature.

>Aristotle's observational claims (as opposed to his philosophy) aren't reliable.

If you have any information that can be used to refute what is written in Aristotle's "Politics" and Siculus's "Bibliotheca Historica", please share it.

Until then, I'll consider these sources of information to be trustworthy on this subject.

>>604249

>"Although their wives are comely, they have very little to do with them, but rage with lust, in outlandish fashion, for the embraces of males. It is their practice to sleep upon the ground on the skins of wild beasts and to tumble with a catamite on each side. And the most astonishing thing of all is that they feel no concern for their proper dignity, but prostitute to others without a qualm the flower of their bodies; nor do they consider this a disgraceful thing to do, but rather when anyone of them is thus approached and refuses the favour offered him, this they consider an act of dishonour."

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Diodorus_Siculus/5B*.html

>>604227

One minute in and looking good, but:

>Jewsfor Hitler

What's up with that?


e276f4 No.604266

>>604257

>If you have any information that can be used to refute what is written in Aristotle's "Politics" and Siculus's "Bibliotheca Historica", please share it.

Well, there's this bit in Siculus about Heracles and Gaul. Seems a bit off (and it's intended as history–right before this section he writes a bit about a myth and is very explicit that it's fictitious, he gives no such disclaimers here).

>Now in the course of his campaign against the Geryones, Heracles visited Celtica and founded there the city of Alesia, and the maiden, on seeing Heracles, wondered at his prowess and his bodily superiority and accepted his embraces with all eagerness, her parents having given their consent. From this union she bore to Heracles a son named Galates, who far surpassed all the youths of the tribe in quality of spirit and strength of body. And when he had attained to man's estate and had succeeded to the throne of his fathers, he subdued a large part of the neighbouring territory and accomplished great feats in war. Becoming renowned for his bravery, he called his subjects Galatae or Gauls after himself, and these in turn gave their name to all of Galatia or Gaul.

As to the Politics, the citation in Greenberg points to an offhand reference to the Celts in a discussion of the Spartans. Here's the context: http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0058%3Abook%3D2%3Asection%3D1269b . There's no explanation of how Aristotle knows this, and it's exactly the kind of thing I'd expect him to get wrong. The point he's making also contradicts Siculus. Aristotle's claim is that warlike societies are under the sway of their women (as evidenced by activity in politics, control of property, etc.), except for those like the Celts that openly allow homosexuality. But Siculus says "The women of the Gauls are not only like the men in their great stature but they are a match for them in courage as well", suggesting that women were active in public affairs among the Celts.


0f45d7 No.604344

>>604266

>…and it's intended as history…

The "so we are told" part you omitted should be enough proof to the contrary.

>suggesting that women were active in public affairs among the Celts

Not really.


aaaa24 No.604345

this thread is pure autism


0af972 No.604366

>>603065

>Post memes and anything debunking pagan memes ITT

>be guy in Europe

>hear rumble in sky

>it's a thundergod I'm sure

>some asshole from the desert comes along

>Akchually, that's yahweh

>you sure?

>yeah I'm sure, you larper, accept Yahweh now

>ok, but I'll actually go against jesus and everything, okay?

>I won't keep my prayers in private, and I'm gonna build richfag churches

>I'm gonna keep pagan god weekdays

>I'm gonna keep all sorts of rituals

>Around the world, people like me will continue to live their old lives to a degree despite being Christian

>Aztecs will still flay pepole and have Santa Muertes

>I will still paint beautiful women and nature pictures

>Japanese will still have Amaterasus and co

>But Christianity is real and all that other stuff is larp?

>Yes.

>Ok.

>You sure Christianity isn't the real larp, like a coat of paint over a peoples culture and true spirituality that always keeps on?

>Yes, Christianity isn't the real larp

>Why?

>Because I get to go to heaven to hang out with a judaeic god, of course

>Who is not larp despite you coming along and telling me that everything I had before was actually that god?

>Like some sort of jew who race mixes and steals genes and culture

>Yes, exactly like that, no I mean it's very anti jewish and not a larp

>Ok, thanks.

>Reality says otherwise though

>REEEEEE MUH HEAVEN

(USER WAS WARNED FOR RULE 4)

fc0049 No.604377

>>604366

3/10 got me to respond


dc49b5 No.604401

>>604366

Days since a pagan came onto a Christian board and got triggered by Christianity:

0


dc49b5 No.604402

>>603797

Seraphim handled that neatly in Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future.


8cdb79 No.604403

File: ea24d7cb2463911⋯.jpeg (126.04 KB, 750x1334, 375:667, 673A1021-6A02-4943-A99D-9….jpeg)

>>604366

> It’s THAT pagan again

Are there other pagans who post here or is it just you? You have such an easily identifiable posting style.


f05271 No.604408

>>604403

He's probably got schizophrenia.


e276f4 No.604424

>>604344

>The "so we are told" part you omitted should be enough proof to the contrary.

No, it's not. The tone is clearly different–Siculus is accepting one account and rejecting the other. He explicitly says one is "fictitious" and its authors "have erred", there's nothing like that with the Heracles story.

>Not really.

How else are we to take the claim that they're equal in courage to the men?


0af972 No.604459

>>604403

>Are there other pagans who post here or is it just you?

I'm not the only one, but I like my autism, I see you all like it, too.

>>604401

>Days since a pagan came onto a Christian board and got triggered by Christianity:

Hours since someone who thinks Christianity conquered Europe and who got triggered by the truth:

2

>>604408

>He's probably got schizophrenia.

Nah. I just get banned on various boards all the time. Including this one.

At least one of your mods also thinks I hate this board. I don't.

I post here purely for fun and fun is not hate.

Sure, sometimes I get banned 10 times in a row but that's cause I just want to continue to talk to people.

I don't spam this board, even if have a distinctive style and recurring arguments.


362f0b No.604463

>>604237

no, everyone who gets their opinions from a burn out is fanboy of some sorts.

And what does eh believe in? oh thats right hes an atheist who criticizes atheist.

#notall


dc49b5 No.604464

>>604459

Days since the same idiot thinks bad history is an argument

0


362f0b No.604469

>>604459

>for fun

based troll is based xD christcucks btfo


7a456e No.604472

>>604197

Your concerns about Hinduism and Buddhism as the greater of pagan threats is definitely appropriate, especially considering that they are far more numerous than neopagans. The question is, how do we debunk these two major contenders? Hinduism is very much tied to India's national identity, so it is really easy to launch into /pol/-tier edginess in arguing against Hinduism. Buddhism is more amorphous, secular yet a religion at the same time. Easier to debunk Shakyamuni Buddha as the savior of all sentient beings, bc that's a false messiah argument. I'm not very good with apologetics, otherwise I would contribute more.


9f261f No.604492

>>604366

>>604459

Why even care what we think. Wouldn't it be better to make a thread challenging our view of history instead of some pointless "> be me" story?

Clearly the board has a thirst for understanding the bible, why not use it to understand your ideology better or teach us something new.


65ac86 No.604606

File: 1a4aea41eb632d3⋯.jpg (109.64 KB, 1024x640, 8:5, image.jpg)

It's pretty easy to see Jesus is the Truth, the Way, and the Life. Let's weigh our options…

> Atheism

< Nu-Liberalism: Liberal disease, decadence, perversion, transgenderism, and all sorts of twisted acts on the beauty of Creation

< Communism: Slaughter of millions due to a lack of regard to ones life. Destruction of the human soul and endless suffering for the false red god of Bolshevism

> Buddhism

< Obsession with wholeness and perfection of the body and mind despite preaching against earthly cares. Idolators and Mystics with no real substance.

> Islam

< Violence, rape, torture, and the endless conquest by the sword against the world. Consumed with animalistic rage, and driven only by hatred of Jews and Christians and all non-Muslims. Results in failed states or overcrowded shitholes in Asia full of poverty, murder, vengeance, and rape.

> Paganism

< 2,000 years of animal slaughter, human sacrifice, infanticide, degeneracy, perversion, loneliness, emptiness, and idolatry.

> Christ

< Preaches Love, forgiveness, and moral fibre. Strengthens the soul of the believer by purging inner corruption. Will not sit idle in the face of evil, but does not become evil just to fight it. The greatest civilizations in the world. Spiritual righteousness and purity. Resistance of temptations, and destroyer of the disgusting reign of paganism. In countries where there is an actual religious Christian majority (Poland, U.S., Christian Lebanon, Greece, Romania) the people are devout without rage. Loving without perverted western 'love'.

There is no truth but Christ.


7c26a3 No.604633

>>603065

the best pagans retreat to philosophy: they are rationalists and I treat them with respect. They are valuable because they believe in reason and they are very pragmatic. The key in these cases is to accentuate the pragmatic side of faith and its effects on people.

The others (wotanists, et al) are filled with rage against Judaism (and by extension Christianity) so they are 100% irrational, blood and soil types. The best weapon against these is ridicule.


a815ca No.604753

Shit-flinging at "pagans" on the internet achieves nothing, it would only make them dislike and hate us even more, especially with such cringy memes… It ultimately comes from wroth and vanity, from having pride on an "identity", instead of any good actions - from thoughts like "oh we are so much more righteous than you and your group just for the sake of it, of how we call ourselves". It's like Jesus warning of the Pharisees who would do charity and "good deeds" in public, and blow their horns to announce it, just to be seen doing it, it's vanity.

Instead, we should be working on revitalizing our churches, opposing degeneracy inside it, and calling out leaders that promote all-but good for christians - liberalism, women's rights and so on (someone like "Pope" Francis). Thus, we can make Christianity a viable option, what it should be, beauty and uplifting, something that would appeal to the people disillusioned with it - and most pagans are good people.

Religious wars and governments actions across history aside, you don't convert, let' s say a "muslim" by saying Mohammad was a homossexual and repeatedly insulting his whole group. No, instead you act in a righteous manner, true to the words of Christ, so that people can see the value of your doctrine. We don't need to hate other groups, but bear the word of Christ.

And before you call me a "concern troll", yes I'm concerned that you're just being edgelords…


a815ca No.604758

Honestly, to show how futile this whole shit-flinging is, and how we are straying from reason and falling into hatred with it, I'm going to debunk some of these "memes". I understand getting banned for this, but it would be a sad way to prove my point…

First for the claims that are, frankly quite pathetically repeated many times here ( >>603076 , >>603273 , >>603309 , >>603310 , >>603322 ) that the Germanic gods were homossexuals who drinked cum - that is an isolated, fantasious work of a Jewish psychoanalist named "Greenberg" who was explitly deturping history in a very perverted way to justify a push for mass-homossexuality. I think there is a part of his book which concerns to Jesus, as a way to justify sodomy.

That would be like using the description of Jesus in the Talmud to refer to christianity, it's an obvious fallacy and quite low to be used. Notoriously, as in the works of Tacitus, such as "Germania", and other ancient authors, backed by actual archeological evidence, the ancient Germanics had a practice of executing every homossexual by drowning them in mud, for religious reasons, to "hide their shameful behavior forever". To claim that they worshipped homossexuality is absurd.

As for the other anons discussing, about the claims here: >>603309 that the Ancient Celts were "entirely homossexual", not only is that virtually impossible and unrealistic, while maintaining a healthy society, and not backed up by any other evidence, ever, they came from Diodorus Siculus, a highly unreliable work, from a time shortly after the Gallic Wars (and Gallic invasion of Greece), where the Romans carried extensive propaganda, as they did to other peoples, displaying the Gauls as "affeminate", behavior which the romans shunned and despised, to justify their conquest and attrocities in that region. Besides, there are no records of such widespread practice ever continuing after the Roman conquest, which seems strange, or of it being practiced anywhere else by Celtic peoples. It's also offensive to people who would be like, part celt, to say that of their ancestors, even if they were pagans…


a815ca No.604759

>>603065

>using the statistics of liberal atheist countries to bitch at "pagans"…

>>603076

Conflating "witchcraft" with "paganism". Pagans also hunted witches… And more of Greenberg's work…

>>603078

I don't think the Eddas are the only source about norse paganism, and it's quite a strawman to say pagans want all europeans to go back to Norse paganism, and not their national pagan religions… And the thing with the legends of "Loki", which was the equivalent of Satan, I believe, is something like saying we are about harming ourselves because Jesus knew he was going to die…

>>603079

Shitting on heritage and claiming everyone who disagrees with you is an atheist, way to go… Oh and "nazi twats" later, how curious… Now you know that christians also killed and raided other europeans, and traded even slaves with the Muslims. You can say, for instance, that the vikings also destroyed Jewish Khazaria, so your point is false, and they also raided these lands…

>>603080

Now for the claims the Vikings were bad fighters, using a carefully selected list of battles, well the list of battles won by them is larger than that, and they were feared for a reason. Scandinavia had only about 300.000 people during the Viking Age, and they still colonized several other places, much more populous, founded Russia and raided as far as the Muslim world and became elites inside christian nobility after converting.

>>603273

>>603309

More of (((greenberg))) works and trying to conflate "pagans" with Milo Yiannopoulous, really? You can point anyone as ugly, one could easy counter this by showing pictures of christian families who adopt black babies, and christian leftists. Very low thing to do…

>>603310

That second picture could well represent, you know, any member of clergy. The third one is anti-christian quote by Hitler on how he wanted to replace Christianity, not by reviving the ancient paganism, but starting a new one focused on the German blood. Careful with what you post…

The felling of the oak, in the fourth picture, is just an allegory for the destruction of the cultic center, with the backing of Frankish armies who had conquered the region. People were forbidden and punished by death to worship there afterwards, that is why the cult declined, not because of the tree… And the fifth picture, I believe, is oblivious to the fact that the there was actually a single pan-european religion, with different national variants, much like there is a single christianity under several denominations…

>>603316

Already adressed.

>>603322

If you're going to say one has to be a christian because of 2000 years of christians ancestors, what is to say of much older paganism? You also put "enlightenment" authors there to justify a "christian heritage"? That is one counter-productive argument, brother.

And in the second picture, no religion subscribes to the might is right claim, or else they would just worship violence, by that logic, the satanists who control the governments would be mightier than christians because…

I addressed the 3rd picture already, the 4th is just ebonics shit-talking, and in regards to the 5th, I don't think Scandinavia was converted by invading armies, in fact, Saint Olav was killed by the pagans in battle, but they converted later.

Debate if you want, but please don't address this post as a shitlord. Reflect on what you're doing…


1666c3 No.604920

>>604753

>>604758

>>604759

I smell a rat. You're arguing just a little too passionately for these pagans to be wearing a Catholic flag. At best, you come off as one of those Alt-Right /pol/ cultural/utilitarian Christians who cry out "We need to set our differences aside and join our pagan allies!!!!"

Lol. No. We do not.

First off, you're seriously saying that the prophet Elijah himself, rather than mocking the worshipers of false gods should have been kinder and gentler to them? From 1 Kings: 25-27:

>25 And Elijah said unto the prophets of Baal, Choose you one bullock for yourselves, and dress it first; for ye are many; and call on the name of your gods, but put no fire under.

>26 And they took the bullock which was given them, and they dressed it, and called on the name of Baal from morning even until noon, saying, O Baal, hear us. But there was no voice, nor any that answered. And they leaped upon the altar which was made.

>27 And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.

So no, even God's word condones mocking those who believe falsely.

Secondly,

>"and most pagans are good people."

The vast majority of pagans are degenerate Liberals Larping around and Conservative minded pagans are an insignificant and powerless minority. Go to the front page of 8chan, and look up the amount of unique user IDs for 8chan/asatru/ You will always find them in the lower double digits at best, if even that.

Outside of 8chan, who do you find most effectively standing against degeneracy? Thousands of Polish Catholics marching in the streets and praying around their borders. Orthodox Eastern Europeans putting up and guarding borders against out of control immigration. Where are the pagans in all of this?

So no, they are not an essential ally we must make nice with in order to save the West. We can get along just fine without infecting them with a false sense of grandeur, acknowledgement and significance by "allying with them."

Also,, If you are a real Christian, I'm sure I don't need to pull from the vast treasure trove of Bible verses warning of and telling of the consequences of the Israelites and Christians yoking themselves evenly with non-believers and becoming corrupted by them.

For a more recent and pertinent example, just look no further than the Alt-Right itself. From the very beginning they adopted a big tent approach, allowing in homosexuals ( i.e. the first pic from >>603309 ), pagans, and eventually being overrun by 1488rs and Stormers, leading to the Charlottesville disaster that has effectively neutered them if not outright destroyed them.

Also, stuff like this makes you come off as even more suspect::

> Conflating "witchcraft" with "paganism". Pagans also hunted witches…

Pagans occasionally killed witches that caused trouble, but had no problems with having entire mini-cults centered around such practices. /asatru/ and /fringe/ being friends is no coincidence.

And this entire obeservation right here:

>The felling of the oak…

Is pure 100% pedantic hair splitting.

Most of your observations are pedantic hair splitting over MEMES.

Memes aren't supposed to be subtle, kind and gentle and take the other party's feelings into consideration. They're supposed to be succinct, efficient, and have an impact. They're supposed to be weapons, not hugs.

In effect, your posts comes off as being the product of a false-flagging pagan trying to sabotage us, or, as said before, at best a cultural Christian who thinks we need to buddy up with the 1% of pagans who are Conservative leaning in order to save the West, because they are a such a large and critical ally group, that Europa will simply die without their help.

And once again I say:

No. We do not.


90ce26 No.605011

File: 411cd466275f0f6⋯.png (196.87 KB, 998x1134, 499:567, serveimage.png)

>>604758

>that the Germanic gods were homossexuals who drinked cum - that is an isolated, fantasious work of a Jewish psychoanalist named "Greenberg" who was explitly deturping history in a very perverted way to justify a push for mass-homossexuality.

Even if it's a few isolated stories, there is still a large culture of degeneracy in paganism as well as diversity 1st pic >>603309 and 2nd pic >>603310 At very least Christianity by scripture is against this (even with the obvious protestant female priests or gay marriages), race mixing is never explicitly forbidden but it's also not encouraged. Producing offspring is but with who is up to you.

>I think there is a part of his book which concerns to Jesus, as a way to justify sodomy.

>That would be like using the description of Jesus in the Talmud to refer to christianity

Only pagans they wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the original source of Jesus and his depictions in the Talmud, because despite how easily refutable it is, Jesus is just another globalist Jewish man to them.

I get that it's an obvious example, but almost anyone can tell the difference between our scripture and the talmud, there is a reason Christians follow Jesus and not the Tora, yet that matters little when you can ignorantly call attention to jesus being a jew man without understanding that he was rejected by the ((jews)). Most of the scripture used against the jews on /pol/ comes from the Talmud, a specific scripture of Judaism.


a815ca No.605091

>>604920

>we don't need to join our pagan allies!!!!"

>look at Poland leading the way, where are the pagans in all of this?

So we should cast off all the good people in the NSDAP because they were "pagans"? If you look at nationalist circles, pagan-minded people and symbology are prominent in the way and I'm not going to shun them because of scripture that is vaguely related. And need I to remind you that clergy are, if not all the times, nearly all the times against us?

>The vast majority of pagans are degenerate Liberals

Have you seen what the majority of christians are? There are 2.2 billion christians in the world and you're going to complain about "pagans" who are active against degeneracy? If they are so little in number, why do you care to have a thread full of butthurt over them? These memes speak a lot more of you than otherwise.

>So no, they are not an essential ally we must make nice with in order to save the West.

I don't want to "save the west", but you can't unassociate it with pagan elements, at least since the Renaissance. That is not being "corrupted" by non-israelites, but avoiding becoming arab-tier, while following christianism, or else the christian civilization we have wouldn't be as such. I hope you realize christianity wasn't the pure implementation of all that came out of the early christians from the middle east, or that it can adapt to the different peoples of the world.

>The Alt-Right had pagans!!!

90% of alt-righters were christians, even the homossexuals they allowed like Milo and Spencer go out endorsing christianity as a "based cultural tool of civilization". Besides, they are feds anyway and controlled opposition, so why do you bother?

>Memes are supposed to be like that!!

Like fucking embarassements that hit us more than else and are outright lies? A christian shouldn't lie and act like that out of vanity at one's own "denomination group". Oh yes, I guess I'm a pagan for disagreeing slightly with you and pointing out your ways… Oh this board…


18e3c1 No.605268

File: 2022ffbf7a3442e⋯.jpg (60.5 KB, 599x312, 599:312, DV6w-MHW0AAoIrl.jpg)

hehe

heh


24ebe8 No.605271

File: bb044810b0b1464⋯.png (123.49 KB, 339x318, 113:106, muh tree.png)

>>604759

>already addressed

You already addressed that your false idol mated with a horse? That must have been some impressive pilpul.


b60bac No.605272


1666c3 No.605276

>>605091

With all due respect, do you realize what you are saying?

Do you honestly have any idea of what you are saying?

In effect you are saying:

"I have so little faith in the One True Almighty God, that I think we should completely disregard his numerous commandments and warnings and cautionary tales throughout the Bible, his Living Word, and go ahead and evenly yoke ourselves with pagans who, at best, are in open rebellion against God or, at worst, hold him in open contempt, (and either way are allied with Satan, whether they know it or not) because I personally know better than the Almighty Creator of the Universe."

You accused us of vanity and pride for calling out pagans on their delusional beliefs, like we are supposed to, and yet you think you know better than God?


85b8a0 No.605347

>>605276

Do you realize what you're doing? Of all the things you could be concerned with, you decided to concern yourself with /pol/ "pagans" who are out there fighting against atheism and degeneracy? Against the very things that corrupt our churches? The only "alignment" with Satan I see, is people opposing others who do good, because they don't agree with you 100% and fit into your group. This is vanity, like it or not.

By fighting on /pol/, you're doing exactly what our enemies, the enemies of christianity, want - to get those who oppose degeneracy to fight among themselves over minor stuff, and not against those behind degeneracy, who uphold Satan's actions. These are exactly the "Divide and Conquer" type memes we warn you against on /pol/, they create shitfests and achieve nothing but to get us, those who oppose them, to fight among ourselves. Jews actively use these memes to create confusion in the board…

We, as christians, can unite with good pagans, muslims or whatever group, against those responsible for degeneracy. By doing the right thing, we can convince others of our righteousness and value, much better than shit-flinging. Think about what you're doing…

>>605268

>>605271

See how silly it is, you could even counterpart this by putting some ugly picture of a priest or something, those "welcome refugees" types, and say "lol larpagan, you don't even worship muh ~kike on a pike~", and again, I'm not trying to defend them here, but this is stupid and counter-productive, and is based on lies and exaggerations, they didn't worship the trees as the gods, as in literal idolatry, in fact, if you read sources like Tacitus, they were even aware of idolatry and had instructions not to build carved images of their gods. As I said, the "pagans thought the felling of the oak killed the god" - as opposed to the obvious fact the cultic place was destroyed with the help of frankish armies and worship there, or anywhere, was punished by death by the authorities later - is so weak, even the most unaware will see you as dishonest. You're shooting yourselves in the foot by this…


98fab1 No.605372

>>604257

>>Jewsfor Hitler

>What's up with that?

Well, the JewTuber is a Jew, and for Hitler. Makes sense tbqh


b60bac No.605374

>>605347

fighting degeneracy to replace it with degeneracy with faith on trees this time and ugly ponytails


1666c3 No.605440

>>605347

So you really don't have any regard for God's Word, and have so little faith in him and know better than him that you are willing to ally with pagans and Muslims?

>This is vanity, like it or not.

Apparently, following God's Word is vanity.

>We, as christians…

Why are you even bothering to maintain the pretense of being a Christian at this point?

I have been praying for you and will continue to pray for you.




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