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c0fb7f No.602081

He was a Lutheran mystic who denied sola fide. He was known for his strange and mystical interpretations of many aspects of Christian theology. I found out about him because I was looking at these Christian mystics from hundreds of years ago who departed from the orthodox faith such as Swedenborg or Lorber, and Böhme seemed to be the only one who was a trinitarian. Here are some choice quotes

>We men have one book in common which points to God. Each has it within himself, which is the priceless Name of God. Its letters are the flames of His love, which He out of His heart in the priceless Name of Jesus has revealed in us. Read these letters in your hearts and spirits and you have books enough. All the writings of the children of God direct you unto that one book, for therein lie all the treasures of wisdom. … This book is Christ in you.

>For he that will say, I have a Will, and would willingly do Good, but the earthly Flesh which I carry about me, keepeth me back, so that I cannot; yet I shall be saved by Grace, for the Merits of Christ. I comfort myself with his Merit and Sufferings; who will receive me of mere Grace, without any Merits of my own, and forgive me my Sins. Such a one, I say, is like a Man that knoweth what Food is good for his Health, yet will not eat of it, but eateth Poison instead thereof, from whence Sickness and Death, will certainly follow.

>If thou wilt use these Words aright, and art in good Earnest, thou shalt certainly find the Benefit thereof. But I desire thou mayest be warned, if thou art not in Earnest, not to meddle with the dear Names of God, in and by which the most High Holiness is invoked, moved, and powerfully desired, lest they kindle the Anger of God in thy Soul. For we must not abuse the Holy Names of God. This little Book is only for those that would fain repent, and are in a Desire to begin. Such will find what Manner of Words therein, and whence they are born. Be you herewith commended to the Eternal Goodness and Mercy of God.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakob_Böhme

c0fb7f No.602082

>>602081

Forgot one

>“Now when we speak or write of the three Persons in the deity, you must not conceive that therefore there are three Gods, each reigning and ruling by himself, like temporal kings on earth. No: such a substance and being is not in God; for the divine being consisteth in power, and not in body or flesh. The Father is the whole divine power, whence all creatures have proceeded, and hath been always, from eternity: He hath neither beginning nor end. The Son is in the Father, being the Father’s Heart or light, and the Father generateth the Son continually, from eternity to eternity; and the Son’s power and splendour shine back again in the whole Father, as the sun doth in the whole world. The Son is also another Person than the Father, but not externally, without or severed from the Father, nor is he any other God than the Father is; his power, splendour, and omnipotence, are no less than the whole Father. The Holy Ghost proceedeth from the Father and the Son, and is the third self-subsisting Person in the Deity…. he is nothing less or greater than the Father and the Son; his moving power is in the whole Father.”


3430cc No.602086

>>602081

>strange and mystical interpretations

Seriously, smiley, stop looking for excuses to blaspheme God.


712555 No.602092

>>602086

Smiley is too far gone to embrace Christian mysticism. I don’t know much about Bohme, but he doesn’t seemed that bad. Unless there’s something OP isn’t telling us

OP, if you want to get into mysticism, don’t look for these weirdos. The Philokalia is a great guide to Christian mysticism that stays within Christian Orthodixy


6f63d5 No.602124

>Lutheran

>mystic

Hahahahaha


e6e3f6 No.602125

mentally ill g*rm*n

they are a diamond dozen


f1ccde No.602126

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>>602125

>a diamond dozen

It's "a dime a dozen", man.


712555 No.602127

>>602124

Luther was big into the Theologia Germanica. Mysticism isn’t foreign to it


3887c7 No.602161

>>602126

hownew.ru


61f5e1 No.602182

>>602081

Ill post a great YouTube/excerpt of his when I get home today.

I'm a fan of theosis and Bohme has some great instructions on it.

>>602125

>Germans are cwazy!

U a Jew?


c0fb7f No.602184

>>602182

Thanks dude


4c3223 No.602186

>>602081

>Lutheran

>mystic who denied sola fide

Pick one


f59125 No.602193

>>602186

He lived and wrote while the reformation was still current and fresh. As such, there was more of an opportunity for differing points of view, especially in the Protestant Churches. He was a Lutheran, he was a mystic, and he denied sola fide. It is what it is.


4c3223 No.602194

>>602193

>He was a Lutheran

I think Martin Luther would disagree with you


f59125 No.602198

>>602194

He was a member of the Lutheran Church, and he never left it, nor was he kicked out.


7965bc No.602289

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>602184

Here it is, very spooky yet enlightening excerpt from Bohme.


f59125 No.603751

>>602082

Is this the orthodox view of the trinity?


6f63d5 No.603756

>>603751

>The Holy Ghost proceedeth from the Father and the Son

no


1bf822 No.603760

>>603756

Okay but what about “orthodox” like traditional, not like the Orthodox Church. Is this going against any normal doctrine of the trinity? Is this a heresy I don’t recognize?


14f8e5 No.612997

>>602289

based

Bohme was basically preaching enlightenment/nirvana to Christians




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