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>>599773

Software developer.

It’s just that I had a good life and I was already depressed before this happened.

I’m only holding together thanks to antidepressants, but I won’t be able to afford them in 7 months. My social network is non-existent.

I don’t know what to believe anymore.

>>599775

>Software developer.

That's a great thing! The job market is booming in the IT sector currently. I don't think you really need any contacts or a social networks to get a job in this field. Website like indeed.com are a great place to start to at least see what IT companies are near you that you can apply to.

>I’m only holding together thanks to antidepressants, but I won’t be able to afford them in 7 months.

You should really get yourself to that unemployment office, they'll get you set up on weekly checks. They often even have resources to help you find a job.

>I don’t know what to believe anymore.

Trust in Christ, always. :)

>>599779

I’m not arrogant enough to compare myself to the Big J himself.

>>599780

The company I worked for hired a company to do resume-writing and job hunting for me as part of the severance package.

We will see what happens. Either way, I have 7 months before I do the exit bag.

Pray for me. And if you’re in the US, let me know if you have any leads.

>>599763

Is there a Christian discord or chat where I can talk about my suicidal thoughts?

>>599775

I know you are fearful of a situation where you don't know what you would do, anon, but there are more important things than money. I really doubt life is going to start over for you if those 7 months pass. You have the experience and the skills. Even if those months passed, you would still be able to find a job, since you aren't going to become less qualified.

Remember remote work jobs, of which there are many, or smaller jobs until you find something bigger.

>>599798

I’m just sick of it all. Why is suicide considering taboo in Christianity?

Martyrdom is a kind of suicide.

>>599800

You aren't supposed to go and try to get martyred. This ain't a death cult.

>>599784

Imagine you had to work as a school janitor instead of a developer. You should be fine! You are still serving. Don't be prideful!

>>599807

I’m sorry, but death is preferable over being a school janitor.

>>599813

>death is preferable over being a school janitor.

lol who do you think you are?

Anon is right. Stop being prideful and get a grip.

>>599800

Don't you dare to compare your terrible temptations to martyrdom.

Now you are just being too emotional, so calm down.

>>599763

Just pray and ask your family to pray for you. The rest I can't speak for. Accept to put your life in Gods hands.

I was jobless and with my parents in my late 20s and vowed to kill myself if I was still at home at 30. I'm 35 now and didn't quite make it out of home by 30 but my life is better now.

Please knock it off with stupid vows like this.

>>599836

What I mean is that there is a Christian path towards an honorable end of life and that is martyrdom.

>>599932

Yeah, but your life is steadily improving.

Mine just crashed and burned.

>>599991

Steel yourself to suffer as the Martyrs did then; who were martyred because they lived for Christ not because they resigned to an easy way out from something difficult. We're all called to live in Christ's sacrifice and whether God has ordained for you to be torn apart by lions or to die desolate in a ditch(you won't) is irrelevant. You really just don't want to suffer and are being dramatic about losing comfort and security to the point that you want to resign life over it, this is a delusion. God will provide for you and you can live a life that glorifies him by remaining faithful to him. Suicide is a demonic delusion that spits in God's eye and rejects the life he's given you from which you can't come back because you're dead.

Go to the Discord and talk to people there about your suicidal compulsions

That bites Anon, I'll pray for you. Try to keep active in the mean time, it can really help especially when you don't have work to keep you busy. I take antidepressants too, and I know how bad it can be having to rely on something to maintain your ability to function and feel sane… I think the best we can do is fight hard and keep our faith, honestly. Don't consider the last way out until it really is the last way out, rather focus how you can prevent or delay it.

>>599992

And the reason your life can't steadily improve again is…….?

>>599763

I've got a free login to one of those self-improvement programs left over. ( selfauthoring.com )

Wanna try? Supposedly it works pretty well, even for older people.

is your work the most important part of your life? is that how you define yourself?

or do you want to kill yourself because you won't have as many comforts as you did before. is your life only worth living because you are comfortable?

>>600403

I’ll try it out, thanks!

Email it to nilssonandersx@gmail.com

Not my real name, btw.

>>600499

It’s easier to cry in a lexus than in a cardboard box.

>>599992

Your life is never over until God sees fit for you to give up the ghost. Even if it seems impossible, we can start over and reach peace (like Job).

>>600174

>>600217

>>600612

Job was ready to die until God intervened.

So when I’m ready to die, I should just wait for God to intervene?

There has to be some resources around where you live, or at least some family you stay with until you get a new job.

Killing yourself will make it worse.

>>600618

You're rather missing the point of the account; Job called out to Heaven to ask for a reason why he suffered, and God answered him not out of necessity, but out of a desire to teach mankind about Himself.

To answer your question directly – no, because we have free will. If you choose to ignore God's desire for you to live, you can do that, but you sin against the very life He chose to give you. God's will and hope for you is to live your days on Earth immersed in the Holy Spirit.

>>600681

Nice pic, but

>behemoth

>tail like that

>>600636

Or God really didn’t like Job and it pleased God to fuck with Job.

This song never stops being relevant.

>>600705

God said that Job was a righteous man. If you believe God to be who He says He is, then you know that that's not true.

>>600705

Oh brother. I remember another thread exactly like this, and the OP had the EXACT same attitude toward the story of Job.

In fact a lot of these threads go something like this:

>OP: I want to kill myself. Please talk me out of killing myself.

>Three thousand gazillion posts offering encouragement, hope and advice

>OP responds to the aforementioned by continuing to be an negative nancy.

Look, I'm tired of these threads, so I'm going to be blunt:

You are one of three things:

a) If you are really dead serious about killing yourself over just losing a job, you are more than likely clinically depressed or have some sort of serious mental disorder or chemical imbalance that no amount of pithy advice or encouragement on a random internet board is going to help with. Get off this board, and seek professional help, whether it be a priest, psychologist, therapist, suicide hot-line, etc.

b) If you don't have a serious mental issue or chemical imbalance, then you are just a whiny little wuss and you need to toughen up, get a stiff upper lip, pray to and have hope and faith in Jesus Christ your savior.

c) You're a troll. If so, get Jesus in your life.

Either way I'll be praying for you.

>>599800

God has a plan for your life. If you make the choice to end your life, you are rejecting that plan. It's about as close to a paradigm case of sin as you can get.

>>600897

This times a million. Let's copy this and pasta it everytime some fag cries about their oh so difficult life.

>>600897

Oh yeah, THAT'LL work, really make him quake into changing his life that will

Might be time to stop visiting /christian/, m8, if that's the limit of your charitableness

Job was hopeless in his mind slavery to the devil. In the book of Joe-buh, his father is walking the earth, and his abuser is "god", who is the devil….the 2 characters are switched.

>>600608

did you got the email anon?

>>601744

Yes, I did. And I replied to it.

Thanks for the help!

Don't underrestimate the pain. People who make fun of the pain are in fact just scared or too ego driven to ever relax and meditate. Too scared to see that not everything is to be made fun of at every inconvenience. Nihilism grows of intolerance.

See through the pain and the suffering will have made sense of itself. Ignorance is our biggest threat.

And never underrestimate how much suffering people are willing to bear before they give in to God.

Also, don't believe in the right/wrong doctrine. Everything laid before God is love, but there inded are things that are good and bad for you. Nature heals itself, and the chinese word for 'nature' is "that which appears of its own".

Look innards and find God in your own nature.

>>601842

It is no longer even pain, I’m just tired of it all. God has finally cut me down and I just want some peace and quiet.

>>601582

>Goes into long rant about how depression causes one to feel so hopelessly down that all the love and support and good willing advice doesn't do squat.

>Post being criticized literally recognizes this fact and recommends poster seeks professional help rather than seeking advice and good feels on the internet, which poster admits is fruitless when one is in the midst of serious mental illness.

>Proceeds to rant about charitablity and patience and then says "Go back to /pol/, larper!"

I know self-righteousness and self-righteous anger feels good, but it also makes you a hypocrite and Pharisaical.

Also, I never said he's hopeless, I said he either needs professional help or he's a whiner looking for attention, which is sadly often true of so-called "suicidal people."

There's a time for love and understanding, and there's a time for blunt ugly truth. Just as Jesus was meek and patient with some, and willing to whip money changers out of the temple and call Pharisees serpents and children of the Devil. A bleeding heart is not a a one-size fits all solution.

I'll be praying you too.

>>601577

Your tactic on the other hand: to keep giving him advice and good feels as he continues to feel bad no matter what you say due to needing professional help or just wanting attention, now THAT's they way!

Will bee praying for you too.

>>601777

It would probably be sufficient for you, to start by cleaning your room. (That is, make it at least a place you could invite people in without being ashamed of it)

>>602344

thanks but id only do that if you're jordan peterson

>>602336

I’m in therapy and on antidepressants, so it’s not a regular whine. But it feels that time is running out for me, but at least in death I won’t suffer the indignities of being poor and homeless.

>>600897

Suicide hotlines? have they ever helped anyone? OP will die of starvation anyways.

>>602591

To be quite frank, if you are so attached to material wealth and comfort that you are literally willing to die than be without them, this may be precisely why this is happening to you: to free you of such attachment. God may literally be doing this to free your soul of avarice and covetousness.

Also, God does not test men beyond their means. If this is really going down, God thinks you are strong enough to handle this.

Indignities? Being poor and homeless and dependent on God is an honor. You will literally be far closer to him in enduring the Cross than most of us who live in relative comfort. I'm no rich man, but if you are able to endure such coming hardships, you will be a far stronger man in the Lord than I or many of us.

If you're still not feeling what I said, what about your therapist? Be honest: is your therapist basically a glorified person whom you talk to, or is your therapist engaging in competent structured psychotherapy with you like CBT, DBT or EMDR? I myself saw a therapist for 2 years who was all talk talk talk. I felt better while in therapy, but as soon as 2 years was up, and I was away for awhile, I found myself with basically the same issues I started with. I'm now seeing a therapist offering more concrete solutions, and it's making a difference already.

If you're therapist is just basically a platitude spouting friend you pay for, ditch them and get someone else. .

>My plan is to kill myself if I cannot find a job before the 7 months are over.

I'm sorry about your situation. But with these words you are giving an ultimatum to God. Don't do that. I'll pray for you.

>>602595

There is some evidence for their effectiveness:

https://www.healthyplace.com/suicide/how-does-a-suicide-prevention-hotline-prevent-suicide/

He who kills murders a man. He who kills himself murders the whole world.

>>602591

The worst thing about people who are homeless is not the fact that they are homeless at that moment, but the fact that they have no qualification or hope for any job in the future

>>599775

Can you buy the antidepressants cheaper from online pharmacies? I know, obey the authorities, but if it's life or death..