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>>599750

I am trying, truly.

>>599748

>Does anyone have any idea as to why this happened?

Your guilt or the fact you spontaneously orgasm-ed?

>>599755

No the guilt. I felt immense guilt, as if I murdered someone (not that it has happened before), but you get the idea.

>>599755

Usually when this happened before when I used to masturbate I would feel bad but I would get over it immediately. I don't know why this time.

>>599748

You feel bad because you commited a mortal sin whereas you managed to fight your instinct for six months (which is admirable) without faltering.

When you used to masturbate a lot you were never in a state of grace, you didn't put a lot of effort in your endeavors, so you had nothing to lose.

This time it's truly different.

However don't worry.

You might have failed, but you resisted during SIX MONTHS STRAIGHT

Few people are able to do that nowadays.

Don't fall into despair, seek a priest, confess and do it again anon!

>>599765

>>>599748 (OP)

>You feel bad because you commited a mortal sin ALTHOUGH you managed*

>>599765

Yeah but I didn't masturbate. I didn't relapse. I just had an orgasm via visual stimulation. The orgasm happened even after I clicked off. I felt the sensation approaching, and in order to deter it, I immediately closed the tab. However, even after I closed it, I still had an orgasm. I guess the guilt mostly stems from the undeniable fact that I could've avoided it. I don't know.

>>599757

You aren't your sins, what's done is done remember to go to confession and if it really is tearing you up then talk to your holy father about it.

>>599767

You didn't masturbate but you watched porn. So it's the same.

It's better to masturbate with no lustful thoughts than watching porn and not touching your penis.

Or rather, it's the lesser evil

>>599772

>masturbate with no lustful thoughts

That is impossible for anyone. But I guess you're right. Thanks anon.

>>599765

>never in a state of grace,

I have always seen that phrase here, but I never fully understood it. Can you explain what is being in a state of grace? How can I achieve it?

>>599777

State of grace = you will go to Heaven if you die

It means that your mortal sins are forgiven.

>>599777

You're in a state of grace after you've taken the eucharist. It means there is a spiritual connection between you and God.

And this connection will stay as long as you do not commit a mortal sin.

I'm sure you've felt it before, a clear state of mind, a silent hapiness. As if everything was right. Of course, because God was with you.

That's why you need to confess before participating in the communion

>>599785

>I'm sure you've felt it before, a clear state of mind, a silent hapiness. As if everything was right. Of course, because God was with you.

I have not in all honesty.

>>599787

Well. Some people cannot feel it but it doesn't mean it's not there. Just like most people can't see angels when they are around.

The most important thing is not to give up because you failed here anon.

Get up and keep going

>>599790

Thank you. In regards to confession, I cannot really confess since the priests in my country speak arabic, as I live in Lebanon. I do speak Arabic, but I believe I can talk or confess better the sins I have committed in english.

>>599791

Perhaps you could write your sins and translate them via internet or something.

I'm sure it will count since you can't do any other way

>>599795

To be honest with you anon I have never gone to confession. I'm 18.

>>599796

There's always a first time anon.

Don't think of it as something shameful or don't be afraid. Healthy people will understand and God will understand.

What matters is your intention.

>>599799

Very well. Thank you anon. To add to everything, I feel really stressed since I have university (majoring in Civil Engineering, someone needs to fix my country, and I want that person to be) studies, and gym, football, and I wish to become a better Christian. It all seems just too much. Apologies for the blog post.

>>599801

With God you can go through all of it.

Never give up.

I wish you a good day since it might be the early morning where you live.

I'll pray for you.

Bye!

>>599802

Thanks. You too!

>>599748

Child abuse

Damn six months

You're tough op

>>599767

A divinized body does not indulge in such disgusting and immoral things. Those are the passions, that are conquered through prayer, fasting, good works, and the sacraments.

It does not matter that you had an orgasm through masturbation or through just looking. Your body is still sick with sin.

What have you done for these 6 months? Did you continue having communion weekly?

>>599772

>It's better to masturbate with no lustful thoughts than watching porn and not touching your penis.

>Or rather, it's the lesser evil

What am I reading?

Masturbation is always a capital sin.

>>599774

It's very much possible.

Not that it should matter, since that remains a grave sin. Masturbation and lust are two distinct sins.

>>599777

It means you are in communion with the Body of Christ, a communion which is broken if you commit mortal sin.

>>599791

You're Lebanse but know English better than Arabic?

Anyway…

>I have never confessed

It's time to do your first confession then, or else you cannot have communion again, as you know. Call your priest!

>>600156

Only during these last 3 months has my faith really been rejuvenated. So I started really attending mass every Sunday these last 3 months.

>>600159

>You're Lebanse but know English better than Arabic?

Yeah as I was born in Australia. My Arabic is good though, it's just that there are some words in English I believe that help me express my sins better during confession than Arabic.

>It's time to do your first confession then, or else you cannot have communion again, as you know. Call your priest!

Why is taking the Eucharist in mortal sin considered a mortal sin in itself? Does something happen to me? I've read on some threads here that people become ill or something. I believe I have taken the Eucharist in mortal sin before, I'm not sure to be quite frank.

>>600179

Check out 1 Corinthians 11:27-32.

We must have confessed before having communion, otherwise we do not "eat and drink" the Body and Blood but rather "blaspheme" it.

Not only is it a mortal sin in itself, but it's also probably the most damning one you can commit. The consumption of the Eucharist is a sort of small "last judgment" - if you eat and drink while in communion with the Church, you grow toward divinization and sanctification, but if you eat and drink while being in a state of mortal sin, you are already condemned.

But do not despair. God allows us to stumble but not to fall. That you feel disgust at the sin you've committed is already proof that God is giving His graces to you. Examine yourself, repent of your sins, go to confession, and you can have communion again.

If you've been regularly having communion while in a state of mortal sin, that would surely explain why your spiritual growth was hindered enough that you committed sexual sin even after 6 months of abstinence. I'm just speculating here, though.

This is an Orthodox link, but it might help you for a first confession anyway.

http://antiochian.org/orthodox-prayers/self-examination-confession

>>600246

Note that you must confess what you've done since your last confession - if you've actually never confessed before, it's going to be a life confession.

Surely you should confess that you've fallen away from your church and haven't had communion in a while until 3 months ago. Abstaining from going up to communion without a good excuse (ie, being unable to be present) is a sin too!

>>600154

are you abused as a kid?

>>600299

Nope, thank God.