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f8aa27 No.597788

I'm not sure if this is an appropriate thread for here, but anyways I want to hear some opinions on vegetarianism and Christianity. Sometimes when I eat meat I feel bad for the animals. I'm considering going vegiterian. I'm currently eating ketogenic, and plan to stay ketogenic. I'll still eat dairy and eggs, but as for meat (and soy) I plan to stay away from. Not for health, I don't quite believe meat is nutritionally bad for you, but because of what seems to be personal conviction. Is it possible this could be a conviction from God?

There are verses and principles that both make we want to and want not to eat meat.

Does Romans 14:2 KJV really say that vegans/vegetarians are weak in faith?

Does 1 Timothy 4:3 refer to Catholic/Jewish restrictions, or is it talking about secular restrictions? "don't marry, don't eat meat"

Principles such as animal sacrifice and the fact animals get slaughtered make me think I might as well eat it anyway. Yet the prefall world, and proverbs and parables about compassion toward animals in scripture make me ponder other things. Such as Christ being the good Shepard, or the saying "A righteous man cares for his beast".

Yet personally I feel swayed to persue vegetarianism. I'm curious as to thoughts and advice on this issue. And it's nothing I'd ever try push on others.

>Inb4 hur dur low t soyboy

>trying this hard to not sound like a beta neckbeard

63d332 No.597822

>>592893

I made a very similar thread a few days ago.


7d27bb No.597848

Yes, it could be a conviction. If you look into Orthodox fasting, you'll notice that there's a significant overlap between vegan/vegetarian diet and the rules of a fast. The Orthodox fast is more strict (depending on the season), where eggs, dairy, and even (olive) oils are abstained from.

I'm a newfriend, so I suggest that you ask a clergy for better advice, my brother.


75a2b8 No.597857

>>597788

I think vegetarians feel for the progress memes. I don't trust nutritionists and I don't trust meat substitutes. People making these diets and scientists making "breakthrough" studies every two days are not reliable.

Eating meat is in accord with the world. I'll do as my ancestors did. The alternative seems to be man's arrogance even though he still has no clue what he's doing.


cb1397 No.597863

>>597788

It's important to note that God himself ordered Peter to kill and eat some animals.

It's perfectly fine for you to not want to eat animals out of compassion but don't think the Bible orders you vegetarian.


8dea8c No.598095

>>597863

Jesus ate meat, or at least fish, or at least multiplied them for people to DEVOUR.


d78413 No.598101


13ed13 No.598102

Vegetarianism is for women. Men should feel empowered when they eat meat.


15629d No.598103

Fuck animals, they dont go to heaven


d78413 No.598104

>>598103

>Fuck animals

Whoever lies with a beast shall surely be put to death. (Ex 22:19)

And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and you shall slay the beast. (Lev 20:15-16)


8dea8c No.598105

>>598104

I think you misinterpreted him. I hope.


2c714c No.598130

>>598101

>A closet homosexual who is only good at being loud


4f9f84 No.598133

>>598105

It was sort of a joke.

I show compassion for animals, but it must be remembered that they're instinctive. Definitely kills my disgust for some of nature's more repulsive aspects, like reproducing by ripping open your mate's shell. Now, if a human were to do that to another, they choose to (and it definitely isn't to reproduce), so it's tearfully disgusting.


73a81b No.598148

>>597788

>Does Romans 14:2 KJV really say that vegans/vegetarians are weak in faith?

Usage of KJV proves that you are weak in faith already

Ver. 2. Eat all things. Viz. without observing the distinction between clean and unclean meats, prescribed by the law of Moses: which was now no longer obligatory. Some weak Christians, converted from among the Jews, as we here gather from the apostle, made a scruple of eating such meats as were deemed unclean by the law: such as swine's flesh, &c. which the stronger sort of Christians did eat without scruple. Now the apostle, to reconcile them together, exhorts the former not to judge or condemn the latter, using their Christian liberty; and the latter to take care not to despise, or scandalize their weaker brethren, either by bringing them to eat what in their conscience they think they should not: or by giving them such offence, as to endanger the driving them thereby from the Christian religion.

For one that is not so weak, but well instructed, believeth, is persuaded, that he may eat all things, the distinction of clean and unclean meats being no longer obligatory under the new law of Christ. He that is weak, and not convinced of this Christian liberty, let him eat herbs, or such things as he esteems not forbidden. It is likely some of them abstained many times from all manner of flesh, lest they should meet with what had been offered to idols, or lest something forbidden by the law might be mixed.

>Does 1 Timothy 4:3 refer to Catholic/Jewish restrictions, or is it talking about secular restrictions? "don't marry, don't eat meat"

Ver. 3. Forbidding to marry, to abstain from meats, &c. Here says St. Chrysostom are foretold and denoted the heretics called Encratites, the Marcionites, Manicheans, &c. who condemned all marriages as evil, as may be seen in St. Irenæus, Epiphanius, St. Augustine, Theodoret, &c. These heretics held a god who was the author of good things, and another god who was the author or cause of all evils; among the latter they reckoned, marriages, fleshmeats, wine, &c.

St. Paul here speaks of the Gnostics and other ancient heretics, who absolutely condemned marriage and the use of all kind of meat, because they pretended that all flesh was from an evil principle.

And as for veganism/vegetarianism as itself - it's good as a fasting practice. Read Daniel 1


531540 No.598154

The only reason to be vegan as a Christian I think is to boycott modern farming practises, not to boycott farming. I think, to avoid modern farming practises, a Christian would have to be in favour of going against "going forth and prospering" and instead, be in favour of population size restriction. Hell, if all farmers were Christian and only farmed according to what they believe to be in accordance with God then I believe that would set the availability of food and thus the population limit. I think Christian monopolisation of agriculture is a good base for a society.


d78413 No.598156

Oh by the way, forgot to mention

>1 Timothy 4:3

its primarily about gn*stics that thought that everything connected to flesh (sex, eating flesh and so on) was bad.


f0157a No.598231

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>>597788

Nothing wrong with being a vegetarian out of compassion

Nothing wrong with eating meat either. It is natural.

However, people will claim God ORDERS you to eat meat otherwise you're a fallen human being or something.

The only """meat""" you're ordered to eat is the body of Christ

St Francis loved animals


73a81b No.598249

>>598231

Franciscans to this day love animals especially cooked ones


15629d No.598252

>>598130

wby is he a closet homo? false witness anon


f0157a No.598253

>>598249

I eat meat dude. But it's funny to see people raging against vegetarians, especially for nothing

If he's not doing it to be a special snowflake or equating animals to human beings then it's fine


d78413 No.598254

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2c714c No.598257

>>598254

>>598252

Romans proves he likes it in the back door.


e454e5 No.598258

>>598102

>Vegetarianism is for women. Men should feel empowered when they eat meat.

You feel empowered by slaughtering inferior beings? Really makes you think


2c714c No.598260

>>598252

>>598254

>>598257

He also whines like a faggot.


15629d No.598264

>>598257

>>598260

prove it

he doesnt seem like a backgammon to me


5c9118 No.598267

>>598130

> Hmmm should I criticise Anderson for being an antinomian who also bizarrely holds to a weird belief that some people can’t be saved?

> nah just gonna call him a homo lolz


2c714c No.598269

>>598267

>muh antinomianism




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