/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

Maybe they would be amenable to having one debate thread similar to our threads about Christianity vs Islam.

>>596249

Maybe we should evangelize their board? Even if their mods try to ban us, just evade and spread the word of Christ.

ENDLESS

>>596262

Agreed! The word of God must be spread!

>>596250

I'll ask the mods if they'd be OK with it.

>>596250

You have to be genuinely retarded to be a mor*on, I don't think debate will do them any good

>>596439

You could say this about any belief other than Christianity.

>>596426

CELESTIAL

>>596448

SEX

>>596432

Wait, we get so bent out shape when they come over here and tell them to leave, now we are going over there?

>Rules

>4. Non-Mormons are welcome to post here, and are encouraged to ask questions in good faith. But they cannot proselytize non-Mormon beliefs or post antagonistic or otherwise scandalous material.

Mormon here

Have a minute to talk about the restoration of the gospel and Joseph Smith?

you faggots will burn in hell unless you get baptised ASAP. You know of the truth and heavenly father doesn't excuse them that knew and did not believe, only those who knew not the true word.

Does anyone have that webm about the guy talking about the spirits seen in the Mormon temples.

>>600630

Don’t worry, I’m already baptized

>>600630

Mormons literally don't believe in hell. Shitty LARP faggot.

>>600630

Mormons are anihillationist. LARP failed

>>600635

Seconding. I haven't heard of this.

Should probably make a new board for interfaith apologetics, since both boards seem a bit doctrinally territorial.

The board owner at /lds/ is verbally profane; not representative of the Mormons I've known.

At any rate, I've created a separate board for civil, inter-faith debates. I'll set up a Meta/rules sticky and basic board decor tomorrow.

>>>/apologetics/

>>601091

Can you get me a Book of Mormon in physical?

>>601097

>Can you get me a Book of Mormon in physical?

Like a physical copy?

If you go to the mormon.org missionary chat and ask them for one, they will send missionaries your way within a few days. They will give you a free copy and an awkward lesson.

If not, my local used book store usually has a few copies.

>>601091

why are you successful at creating an ethno state?

>>601099

You mean Utah? All mormons I know hate Utah mormons.

I'm not a mormon, but the answer is a mix of these things:

1) Moved out west early on (not influenced much by outside cultures)

2)Polygamy to drive up population

3)Strict obedience required to receive ordinances

>>601098

My bookstores don't have any, and I really don't have the cash right now to buy a book. I was going to sign up for one on the Mormon.org site, but they want a phone number, and I'm not giving them my phone number, so I'm hesitant to give them any identifiable information about me.

>>601106

If you don't want the missionaries to know where you are from, you could show up to a ward in your area on sunday and ask for one.

Sorry, I'm not much help. While I'm friends with the missionaries, I have asked for extra copies before and they always looked at me funny.

>>601100

is it white as a snow in utah?

>>601110

I don't live in Utah and haven't since I was a lad. (Dad was stationed there for a few years)

But yes, it's VERY white and delightsome.

>>601112

how many inbreds do you see there

>>601116

People with pioneer roots have a similar look to them, especially the men. Women all have similar voices. Most look good if they aren't fat boomers.

>>601091

Are you secretly doing reconnaissance or something?

>>601124

>Are you secretly doing reconnaissance or something?

I could do that, but know I've never been baptized LDS, nor do I hold the temple recommend, so my secret spy work is limited.

>>601128

do they genuinely believe or are they just in it for the community?

>we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.

<2 Neph 25:23

We all know who this sounds like.

>>596249

>It appears that someone has started a board for Mormons, similar to our board.

Good. They don't belong here.

>Perhaps we could use this opportunity to proselytize some misled souls?

Bad, dumb, and stupid idea. It would be like their coming here to do the same to us "misled souls." Or like going to leftist or atheist boards for the same.

I agree that we should be reaching out to heathens of all stripes, including those who out of honorable or dishonorable intentions, or even out of ignorance call themselves "christians," but invading their communities for that purpose is not only rude, but unlikely to get results.

IMO better to just seize opportunities when they come, or use third-interest boards like /pol/ etc to insert messages, and to have some good apologetic copypasta handy for specific cases.

For example, point out that a faith which changes doctrines with the times cannot be a real, revelatory faith. Mormons used to say that niggers were demons, but coincidentally that changed with the snivel rights movement. Mormons used to allow multiple wives, but coincidentally that changed when Utah became a State. Etc.

>>596439

Certainly they're descended from among the most gullible white people who ever lived. Anyone who converts in this day and age of the internet is either incredibly stupid or too lazy to do any real research. It takes a special kind of stupid, though, to have been born mormon and, after having critically examined the faith, to choose to stick to it.

My main concern would be for those who were born and raised into it but who have never examined it deeply. IMO those people are very ripe for the truth, if they are seekers.

>>596250

This is probably the best idea WRT reaching those here on the chan.

>>601097

Can you get me a copy in the original "reformed egyptian" language?

Complete with the little stones that I can put under my hat in order to read it, of course.

>>601099

Back when America actually had a muscular sense of Christianity, they through all the mormons out, and that's why a bunch settled there. Mitt Romney's granddad was born in Mexico, iirc, because of this.

Of course, when we made Utah a State, primarily because California was already one and Utah is kinda on the way there, we had to accept them. But, they did give up on polygamy in order to join the USA. Sort of coincidental that that new "revelation" hit their "church" at such a convenient time …

>>601466

>through

threw

>tfw you wish you could blame spellcheck

>>601131

>do they genuinely believe or are they just in it for the community?

They have what's called a testimony. The testimony is like your plate at a buffet. You fill your plate with the things you like. Some mormons have a strong testimony of Joseph Smith while others think he was flawed and have a testimony of the Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ.

If something bothers them, they put it on "their mental shelf" for later. Meaning, they have a system within their religion that encourages compartmentalization.

Those that can't handle their doubts will usually go inactive or fake it. It's pretty easy to fake it.

>>601523

>If something bothers them, they put it on "their mental shelf" for later. Meaning, they have a system within their religion that encourages compartmentalization.

Can you prove this anon? i don't really doubt it, but it's always to good to investigate.

>>601557

https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/2kn0mo/the_origins_of_the_collapsing_or_broken_shelf/

>>601557

>Can you prove this anon?

Sure thing. It came into popularity recently in the mormon blog circle, but has it's roots in Spencer W. Kimball's wife, Camilla Kimball.

Here's the original Ensign article:

https://www.lds.org/ensign/1975/10/camilla-kimball-lady-of-constant-learning?lang=eng

>>601559

Woah,didnt know this, thanks!

>>600680

I thought they believed everyone got trhough the gate only there was various tiers of heavenly worlds