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I left an entire denomination because of liberal heresies. So I understand the pain.

>>595202

I wish I still had the pics from when I found some book against Paul in my local Barnes and Noble. Was anyone in that thread? Does anyone know what I’m talking about?

>>595208

I think I saw it but didn't save it

>>595208

>>595212

oh I remember that

>>595212

>that subtitle

lol

>>595216

Because the American dioceses don't listen to Rome. Then cardinal Ratzinger said so to Ex senator John decamp when he was pedo hunting in the franklin scandal. There seem to be many rogue clergy. Also these heresiarchs use weasel words to violate the spirit of orthodoxy whilst not necessarily outright stating heresy.

Based Black Pope is needed to put down the boot

>>595218

With Pope Poz in charge don't you think it's a good thing they don't listen to Rome?

>>595216

soon

>>595218

>Because the American dioceses don't listen to Rome

is that good or bad now?

>>595202

>t. priest at my local catholic church.

Report him to the Bishops.

>>595238

Well they're liberals as we JUST stated instead of Rome's mixed blessings. At least, I see Rome as mixed.

>>595246

Unironically this

>>595222

Pope Francis is 1000x more orthodox than some heretic priests I have seen…

>>595202

Same for me. Everytime people in my parish try to undermine what he said about women for exemple in 1 tim 2: 11-15

>11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women will be saved through childbearing if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.

saying he contredict himself with what he said in galatians 3:28 (28There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.) even if St Paul is obviously speaking about metaphysicall differencies. I hate this when they try to make a christian feminism.

>>595202

>>595489

St. Paul was not Jesus

>>595490

I don't even need to know what you're gonna say next to know that this is insane heresy.

>>595491

Elaborate why, then

>>595513

I can vouch for this somewhat. the priest at my Orthodox church is Romanian and he runs a tight ship.

>>595490

Every word in the New Testament is from God.

>>595614

From God, but then subsequently translated through the lesser conduit of man, further filtered through their physical bodies and their insufficient languages

Only Jesus, being both 100% God and 100% man could speak with 100% clarity

Ah! Imagine the power His words and His actions had then

>>595622

Matthew 24:35

Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

John 5:24

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

>>595625

Both quotes transcribed from the mouth of Jesus himself

>>595490

St Paul was inspired by the holy spirit

>>595682

>If it's possible for them to be so wrong, it is just as possible for me to be wrong.

The reason why they're wrong is because they fail to do the most basic thing in the world which is learn and believe what their Church teaches. There's no big mystery, just have to read the catechism and believe everything it teaches. As long as you do that, you'll never be in the wrong.

>>595712

Thanks for this anon. I just flicked through my catechism, boy they are dead wrong. I can't believe they let a bunch of heretics catechise. It seems they would be more comfortable in a protestant church.

>>595246

I'll keep this in mind, although I don't know how well it will go seeing as I'm just a lowly catechumen.

>>595202

>tfw the apostles died horrible deaths for this

>>595682

I dunno what to tell you. I want you to learn the faith well, those last four points though cannot be abided. I can definitely spin up arguments for the first two. Maybe even the third, with the qualifier "for now"?

Latins, any advice for the guy? Look for a more traditional parish?

>>595682

>Theology has evolved and we are more knowledgeable nowadays

Not completely wrong. Paul says that now we know partially, which also implies development.

>The old testament is a record of what the Israelites thought god was, not what he actually was. The parts that depict God as violent are made up.

I think what he meant to say is that Old Testament was specified for Jews

>Hell isn't real

Perhaps he meant fire and brimstone Hell, with boiling cauldrons.

>Slavery is wrong, even though the bible never says that

Its wrong and degenerate. God made Adam free, Jesus came to deliver us from bondage of sin and death. You can read St. Gregory of Nyssa for further information. (and no, "debt slavery" was not slavery, it was a regular employment)

>>595776

>I don't know how well it will go seeing as I'm just a lowly catechumen.

Can you argue your way out of a paper bag? Because this is a piece of cake; you just need some evidence, some recordings maybe.

>>595669

Keyword: inspired

>>595490

yes, but he wasn't wrong. Now BEGONE, THOT!

>>595909

Yes, inspired, meaning "God-breathed". The Holy SPirit was speaking though Paul.

>>595622

What the authors of the divine scripture wrote is exactly what God intended them to write, nothing more nothing less.

Translations of divine scripture have corrupted it.

>>595682

Your priest denies infallible sacred scripture and also sacred tradition and the magisterium. He is a heretic not a catholic. Get confirmed then find a traditionalist preferably one with the old rite parish asap. That is what a priest advised me to do when I confided the heresies my parish priests were espousing.

>>595919

>inspired, meaning "God-breathed"

lmao

>>595202

So you're saying that you're really not a Christian ? Nice that your killed a thread with this.

>>595930

I think you're aiming at wrong post

>>595930

And now I'll have to throw down my theories about Protestants having bad reading comprehension down the trash. Don't you feel bad about it?

>>595935

more like you brainlet refuse to realize what OP spat out

>>595936

So he should have agreed with the priest in his local church on the fact that Paul said nasty things?

>>595936

so please englighten us about what op really meant

>>595929

Not an argument. It's literally the etymology of the word.

>>595930

>>595936

Are you going to explain yourself?

>>595953

You're either ignorant or an excellent double thinker, neither is praiseworthy. In case you don't understand what I'm saying, I'm saying you're wrong.

The presence liberal heresies really depened on the church that you go to, both Catholic and Protestant. I have gone to many different churches due to moving, and one thing that i have noticed is that the liberal heresy churches usually have had a less serious congregation in both attendance and action.

>>595984

Do you deny that Paul spoke infallibly in the Epistles?

>>595216

The great heresy of modernism is infesting the church

>>605631

I'm debating semantics, not scripture

>>595682

Wew lad after hearing all these horror stories I'm really lucky that the only parish within a reasonable distance is doctrinally sound and respects the liturgy, even when it's NO only. How long does the teacher spend on each topic? I feel like this might influence how they're teaching you, going through all that in one class seems like too much. In my class we would devote an entire session to just one of those topics and even carry it over to the next week if people are unsure about it, and we spend maybe half of every class where we learn something new going back to what we were taught and asking questions/clarifying things.

why even go to church at all? this place IS church. 8chan is much holier than all physical churches

the etymology of the word church is "place of assemblage set aside for Christian worship". this place IS church and this place is much holier than any church that disallows freedom of speech and that silences people is slow and cumbersome and has a lot of other problems

honestly i dont know any churches in existent that actually autistically follow the bible like you're suppose to, like the essenes did

>>605898

>essenes

Weren't they a jewish sect, and so not Christian? What did you mean by this?

PAUL DID NOTHING WRONG

ANTI PAUL IS A CODE WORD FOR ANTI-CHRIST