/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

Of course not asshole, no, weed is not a "minor" degeneracy, it's not comparable to venial and mortal degrees of sin. That's like asking whether it's okay to be casually spiteful and bitter against people just because you wouldnt be suckerpunching them.

>>594306

So can I put money in defense companies or say Budweiser? How many Christians drink a beer or two without resorting to alcoholism?

>>594305

Weed is not a sin on its own, just like guns aren't.

Also, recreational use doesn't need to be degenerate.

whats with this weed shilling?

>>594317

last chance to buy low

t. bogdanoff

>>594308

Recreational drug use is a sin. Therapeutic use is valid. Weed has incredibly niche therapeutic uses which other drugs probably do better so weed use is almost always sinful.

>>594414

If the Government OK's it, then shouldn't recreational weed be ok? Should be about as sinful as alcohol or cigs at that point.

>>594414

>Recreational drug use is a sin.

<Tobacco is a sin

<Alcohol is a sin

>Weed has incredibly niche therapeutic uses which other drugs probably do better so weed use is almost always sinful.

Weed is, as far as research shows, a very useful plant for all kinds of stuff but sadly the (((pharmaceutical lobby))) does not want it to enter mainstream medical use.

>>594308

See, here's the thing: you can use a gun without shooting another person, but you literally can't use weed without getting high.

>>594317

Lot of shitposts today. Someone's salty that their parents made them go to Sunday school as a child.

>I don't see how buy stock in weed companies is worse than buying stock in defense companies or alcohol. Can those be justified?

Alcohol can be used moderately and the companies selling it don't encourage drunkenness and aren't responsible for drunkenness. I do think it's immoral to invest in a company that sells it's products knowingly to be used in unjust wars. Asking if it's immoral to put money in weed stocks is really asking if weed can be used morally by a Christian since Christians should not encourage others to sin. We know from the Bible alcohol can be okay to use. It doesn't mention weed specifically so you have to use reason to decide what you think about that. You can use alcohol without getting intoxicated. Can you use marijuana without getting intoxicated or impairing your judgement at all? How likely is it that someone smoking weed is no more impaired than someone having 1 or 2 glasses of wine with dinner?

>>594414

Jesus used his divine power to give more wine to a party full of people who had already drank up the entire stash of wine. Try again. Scriptural back up for your opinion, please.

>>594605

Providing wine does not mean you approve of those who overindulge in it. That's on them.

>>594607

He didn't say 'overindulgence is a sin' he said 'recreational drug use is a sin' which is scripturally unsupported. The scriptures are silent on the issue, aside from alcohol, which it's pretty clear on. Don't get hammered and do stupid stuff. Intoxication itself is not sinful, only allowing yourself to lose control (which varies by person. Some people can consume quite a bit and become quite intoxicated before losing any semblance of self control). Jesus could not enable sin without himself sinning, and he was found without sin. Yet, he supplied more wine to people who were already intoxicated. If God sees alcohol consumption the way that you imply, he certainly wouldn't be supplying more to the wedding guests.

>>594317

It is just a symptom. This is not really a Christian board anymore.

>>594581

>you can use a gun without shooting another person, but you literally can't use weed without getting high.

Depends on how and how much you take it, what kind of weed and who you are as an individual (since every body is different the effects can vary).

It's the same as saying you can't drink without getting drunk.

>>594614

But what other reasons than medical and to get high would someone smoke weed?

>>594615

That's the same as saying why someone would drink alcohol if not to get drunk.

You can get a bit high, as long as you don't go full 420blazed you're still ok.

>>594640

>That's the same as saying why someone would drink alcohol if not to get drunk.

Are you saying that you can't drink alcohol and not get drunk? You realize the implications of this right? This is your brain on weed folks.

>>594604

>Can you use marijuana without getting intoxicated or impairing your judgement at all?

There's a thing called micro-dosing. Basically you take the smallest hit of weed and leave it at that. It's been scientifically proven to slow brain aging (micro-dosing specifically). And while I no longer smoke weed at all, micro-dosing is the best way to take and gives a high like a creative caffeine focus. I would do this and read.

>>594306

>weed is not a "minor" degeneracy, it's not comparable to venial and mortal degrees of sin.

weed is degenerate in the /pol/ sense, but Christian has no basis to be so extreme against it, it's not in the bible or in tradition. It's not drunkeness. It's not pharmacopia or whatever.

>>594434

>>594550

Again I say to thee recreational drug use is a sin. Sobriety is a virtue. Yes alcohol for intoxication is a sin. Tobacco is a sin because of it's damaging effects of the smoke. Both also have therapeutic uses though which according to the catechism make them valid, such as being good for lowering stress hormone. Weed's illegality just makes it even more illegal.

>>594605

You have no idea if they overindulged. It's more likely they were poor and had no/little wine to begin with. I'm sure the lord in his divine wisdom only provided the amount required for a therapeutic dose to provide merriment and relaxation and not for a recreational dose that would lead to drunkenness of which according to st Paul is a grave sin which keeps you from entering heaven.

>>594307

>So can I put money in defense companies or say Budweiser? How many Christians drink a beer or two without resorting to alcoholism?

Most of them do.

>>594662

>>594646

You dense niggas, I was comparing that to saying you can't smoke weed without getting totally baked.

>>594890

>Tobacco is a sin

>>594986

>Tobacco is a sin

>my body isn't a temple of the Holy Ghost

>>594610

It's about as Christian as you'll get, aside from denom inoculation and groupthink due to flags, hardcore church promotion

>in order to be with Christ you must not reject His Church

>an almost heretical quote, for we are His Church given that we provide full faith unto Jesus and live accordingly with His teachings

The problem is that a majority larger than you might realize is that Christians are afraid of themselves. And I do not mean to sugarcoat it, but when people cast flagellation upon the self over what the ego prescribes it for, there will come lesser and lesser understanding of how close Jesus is to them, how close the Kingdom of God is (Luke 17:21), and why it is important to love the self, which is outside the ego.

>>594305

All things lead to sin eventually, indirectly

Is God cool with CBD? It doesn't even get you high. What about hemp textiles?

>>594997

Cannabis itself is largely controversial in a matter of subjects. Is it a gateway drug? Does it make people jump off bridges? How is it different than a parasitic relationship?

And it goes on and on, as common sense fleets away from the masses. Control is imperative, it is balanced by physiology and psychology, as well as seeking spiritual strength through Jesus. Give enough and allow it to engulf you, give it a little and allow it to heal. It is a part of nature used throughout millenia, yet many are succumbing to the lectures of others which also gives the speaker of the lecture power. And just like belief itself, when giving power to the words of another man, you can become convinced or influenced.

CBD is magnificent. A main constituent of cannabis, which is the adverse of THC in that it is not psychoactive. Doesn't that seem intriguing? A plant that contains THC, a component in elevation of mind through dopamine regulation and release, neuroelasticity benefits, and nervine-like effects (although mildly psychoactive). Then you have CBD in the same plant, which combats the THC and in the process creates new effects that are still being researched on

>works to destroy cancer and tumor cells, being a superior alternative to chemotherapy

>but unfortunately that enables the medical industry to SHUT IT DOWN because of that and many other reasons, the best one I can give is that it gives nature the benefit of the doubt in what it can do, for doctors and pharmacists love their pills, yet cannot stand to relate to nature

>>594305

>earn lots of money which I can use to help my family and church.

The end doesn't justify the means. I could rob a bank and use that money for good things but it would still be evil.

>>594414

if it expands your mind or leads to christian visions vs if those visions are broken or if they begin to accumulate problems

dichotemizing like that is a logical fallacy and is an unreasonable commitment

Reminder that drug shills hold nothing sacred and will use anything in their power to lead you to a life of chemical slavery.

Sage for PSA.

>>594663

Caffeine is also a sin, sorry.