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No. Four rivers flowed from Eden–the Tigris, the Euphrates, the Gihon, and the Pishon. The latter two are unknown and possibly no longer exist today, but the former two do, and they're not in the North Pole. Eden is probably somewhere in Iraq.

>>591876

There's really no way to know. Of actual places I've heard proposed, the pamir plateau, under the persian gulf, and under the Euphrates river seem to be the main choices. The last one is given because of Revelation 9:14, because maybe those are the same angels which were placed there in Genesis 3:24, if there were four of them. It's safe to assume that whatever you think of the deluge, it changed the coastlines and rivers from what they were. That's why I'm thinking it's a submerged place that no one can get to now.

Psalm 104:9

Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth.

"They" being "the waters." An obvious reference to the fact that these bounds were set after the flood. Checkmate, climate change religion.

>>591879

you mean inside a turkish mountain

Have there ever been any serious attempts to find eden?

>>591960

It is pretty clearly described as a place in the bible.

>>591961

That place is all of creation not a location on a map.

>>591962

The Euphrates and the Tigris rivers are indeed on the map.

>>591970

He's going through his phase.

>>591970

There is really no way to understand what pre-flood earth looked like and the different geological aspects of it, I believe that after the flood they probably named different geographical aspects of the post-flood world after pre-flood rivers and such. I personally don't think pre-flood Euphrates and Tigris are the same as post-flood.

>>592305

I mean, how many places in the world today are named York? It makes sense they'd name new landmarks after old ones for a sense of familiarity.

>>591879

What if modern day Tigris, and Euphrates are not the same rivers referenced in Gen 2? They may simply be named after the original rivers which existed in the garden.

was pangea eden?

>>592337

No, he was from Cimmeria, which was supposed to be nearby Hyperborea.

my mom lol

>>591960

Um no sweety the Bible clearly says Adam was created outside of Eden and then was placed in it. Also how do rivers flow out of ontological arrangements?

>>592305

Maybe, but I don't see why after the water receded it wouldn't just settle right back into the river bed.

>>591876

No. There was only one continent before the flood. The Great Flood involve God moving the continents to their present location (thus causing the oceans to wash over the faces of the continents)

>…mythical race of giants who lived…

Is it possible that Hyperboreans are/were descendants of Biblical Nephilim?

>>591876

They both share the same mythic imagery, a land of plenty without suffering beyond the reach of normal men.

From Pindar's Pythian Ode:

Never on foot or ship could you find

the marvelous road to the feast of the- Hyperboreans.

Perseus came to them once, a leader of men,

entered their houses,

found them making hecatombs of asses

to Apollo.

Never the Muse is absent

from their ways: lyres clash, and the flutes cry,

and everywhere maiden choruses whirling.

They bind their hair in golden laurel and take their holiday.

Neither disease nor bitter old age is mixed

in their sacred blood; far from labor and battle

they live; they escape Nemesis,

the over just.

>>591879

The four rivers also serve a symbolic purpose, namely the "quartering" of the landscape. The "garden", generally speaking, being an enclosed space. The font of plenty (fons vivus), being the source of the four, emanating from the center.