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>>588464

Man, I always struggle. Especially since certain things happened in my life which make it really, really hard for me to believe in anything. To be perfectly honest with you, I'm just a Christian in name. Anyway, everyone struggles, that's normal. I have never heard of this book, but when I was interested in logical argumentation I read some of Aquinas' works.

Also, to again be perfectly honest, if you will seek logic in absolutely everything regarding faith, you're gonna stumble on many things, especially with the Old testament. At some point, you will just need to suspend your disbelief.

>>588499

I would recommend reading the kindle trial version, it really connected with me, as of how many ppl think today, or thoughts ppl have. But i mean there's logic to it, more logic than non believers would like to admit which, i think falls into the pride issue. But have faith.

>>588499

If you look at your claim from another perspective, you're claiming that the brightest minds of the last two millennia have almost all decided to believe a lie because it's convenient and then decided to build upon that even though they knew what it really was. This is beyond retarded.

>>588515

You can say that about every old religion basically, hinduism is how many thousands of years old? What I wanted to say is if you keep on asking why this, why that, you're not going to find a straight answer.

>>588513

I'm really tired of the whole thing, I think that deep down I simply don't care. I was never spiritual, I think Christ existed, I think Christ is the Son of God, I just can't bring myself to care.

Never have read this book so I would be interested in someone's opinion if it's good as well.

People here usually recommend Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis for starters, if you get the chance to read it later you definitely should.

>>588517

>>588516

>hinduism

Hinduism invites disaster and that's just what India is and has always been; not a lot of smart people in there

>if you keep on asking why this, why that, you're not going to find a straight answer

Do you understand that God is infinite?

>>588519

Nothing to do with being smart, they've believed it for a long time.

>Do you understand that God is infinite?

Do you understand that does not explain why the Jews weren't allowed to eat seafood? Or the cruelty of it? Or the genocides committed? And so on and so on.

>>588522

>Do you understand that does not explain why the Jews weren't allowed to eat seafood?

Yes I do, but not every part of God's will can be explained; were this not the case, you would be able to comprehend the infinite, and that's not possible.

>Or the cruelty of it?

<dietary laws are cruel

Oh the humanity

>Or the genocides committed?

By Jews on seafood deprivation? What are you even going on about?

>>588464

I really liked it, personally. It's not the greatest book on the planet, but I thought it was a great introduction to Christian apologetics.

>>588522

Read Paul Copan's "Is God a Moral Monster?" for the questions of morality in the OT.

Also, while some of the ceremonial law doesn't make much sense to modern people, the whole seafood thing is a terrible example. Bad or ill-prepared shellfish can make you terribly sick, it makes sense why Israelites would consider them unclean.

>>588464

>>588499

Here, have a miracle.

https://www.messengerofpadrepio.com/testimony

>>588464

I watched some of his videos back when I was a "skeptic". He doesn't strike me as particularly intelligent. Just another athiest who converted to become an evangelical and make a fortune selling books on apologetics. There is better stuff out there. If you're going with Protestant apologetics I'd start with Mere Christianity and then everything else C.S. Lewis wrote.