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while the image is kinda cringe-y, I agree with what you wrote; we should curse and swear less in general…

>>588136

Agreed OP. I'm trying to cuss less in life as well, quite unbecoming of a Christian.

>>588154

>Says we should use foul language less

>says "cringe"

the joke is that "cringe" is reddit

Because "fuck" being a sin is a protestant meme. The word "fuck" is vulgar language, not profane language.

>>588188

I am stupid, explain the difference to me

>>588195

Profanity is irreverent language. "God Damn" is profane. Vulgar is just crude.

>>588188

Mathew 15:11

Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

What comes out of your mouth shows the state of your heart. A wicked heart says wicked things. An unrestrained heart is accompanied by an unrestrained tongue. It's not as if we all don't want to swear at times, but we choose not to because self-restraint from sin and wrath should also lead us to restrain ourselves from vulgar language.

>>588188

Vulgar language is still filthy, obscene and unwholesome:

https://www.openbible.info/topics/foul_language

https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Bad-Language

>>588201

If it's vulgar and crude, then why do it? Is that becoming of an ambassador of Christ?

>>588264

What helped me is slowing down my speech to the point people thought I was mentally handicapped and consciously choosing each word. I'm a complete brainlet who used to curse like a sailor but it's not such an issue any more.

>>588264

DELETE THIS PICTURE RIGHT NOW

I say "God damn it" a lot.

Can someone explain to me why it is bad?

>>588264

It also helps to consume 40s-50s vintage media, which was the last time proper conduct was generally shown on television.

>>588307

Taking the Lord’s name in vain.

>>588291

>>588253

It really just comes down to linguistic register. Profanity in English marks a very casual register, and is "vulgar" in its original sense (common). Just look at roots of the swear words in English—they are all derived from the common Germanic word used by the peasants whereas the "polite" equivalents are derived from French/Latin used by the educated, upper class folk (e.g. "shit" vs. "feces" or "fuck" vs. "copulate").

There's nothing wrong with using a bit of vulgar language around friends. However, it shouldn't be uncontrollable, there are definitely times and places where it is inappropriate, and it should never be use in order to cause offence. An interesting comparison to think about is Japanese. They don't really have a lot of "swear words" in the same way that English does (there's a couple like kuso and shine, but no one finds them automatically "offensive" as in English and are even used in children's shows). Rather, in Japanese if you really want to "cuss someone out" you simply speak to him or her in an inappropriately casual register, using language that no one would bat an eye at if it were used between close friends or family.

Context is everything. Give respect to whom respect is due, but casual speech is fine when it's appropriate.

>>588307

To elaborate on what >>588326 said, you are saying that while not actually meaning that you want God to damn something.

>>588136

I have a poor habit, but the bible is correct about swearing preventing you from being taken serious.

>>588291

>>588264

If it helps, listen to audiobooks that are adaptations of 20th century novels.

>>588531

Honestly, this sounds like a lot of rationalization. Even if vulgar language has an element of cultural context, the fact is, it is still vulgar within that cultural context and will have an effect on you.

If you're an American and say f* or c*, you're going to know in your gut and conscience what you're doing, unless your conscience is almost perma-fried from cussing so much.

This brings us to James 3:11-12 and the ultimate goal of Christianity: to strive to purify ourselves to the point of being as Christ-like as possible to be worthy of admittance into the Kingdom of God:

> "Does a spring pour forth from the same opening both fresh and salt water? Can a fig tree, my brothers, bear olives, or a grapevine produce figs? Neither can a salt pond yield fresh water.

Can you honestly say words that are objectively offensive and vulgar within the context of your culture, even in a casual setting amongst friends in which it is critical to set an example and standard of behavior for them in order to witness to them the Good News, and still say you are striving for the level of purity that the Kingdom of God demands with all of your heart with a straight face?

>>588597

Plus, we shouldn't want God to damn anything, or he might damn us as well