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0dee28 No.586306

My friend is on the brink of believing in God. He used to do a lot of drugs and his mother killed herslef so he and his family have been through rough times recently.

All the years I've known him I've made it known that I believe in God. He's always been iffy about God but has never outright denied his existence.

I would'nt say my friend is necessarily redpilled but ever since I've known him I've been 100% honest about my personal beliefs about the holocaust, 9/11, sandy hook, things of that nature. My friend sees how people with fame and fortune seem to behavior in particular ways. Specifically he mentions rappers that do the Illuminati signalling shit. Also, he realizes that only a select few can become famous and rich. He believes that the vast majority of those with high wealth and fame probably had to do something horrible to recieve that fame. Something like making a deal with the devil to trade their soul for money, fame, and sucess.

We actually had a discussion about this. I told him it is impossible to genuinely sell your soul because your soul belongs to God and no one can take it away. I told my friend that yes, it is possible to physically write out a contract and conduct a ritual and you may believe that you have given your soul (and if you participated in any sort of spirit cooking, abuse caught on camera, agreeing/forced to be molested by a hollywood elite to become famous, other fucked up shit that the elites do) then you may as well have sold your soul, not literally, but metaphorically, you sold your soul to whatever agents (jews, globalists, illuminati, whatever floats your boat- you get the idea).

That was just to give you guys some perspective on where my friend is coming from. In a nutshell, he knows it's entirely possible that in order to be famous or rich in this world you may have to do some fucked shit. He sees all they "coincidences" with the famous elites such as signalling to the illuminati, the elites all having the same opinions, and just the fact that rich and famous elites are entirely fake, almost robotic, due to not living a normal life or being brainwashed/abused from a young age.

Recently he told me:

"I think I might kinda believe in God dude. Cuss since all the Satanism and Illuminati shit is true, well, since Satan used to be an angel, that means God has to exist as well."

I think this is a great starting point. But how can I get my friend to see God's existence besides just because "Satan exists so therefore God has to exist". I want my friend to see that God exists externally of Satan. I want my friend to realize Christ's sacrifice for all humankind and that he can be saved if only he believes.

I am close to helping my friend take the right steps towards believing in Christ and therefore he can claim the gift of salvation.

I need to have a serious sitdown with him and try to explain Christs' sacrafice. What else should I tell him. This is my first time in my life explaining God to someone in this way. I have tried this with friendships in the past, but it seems like if they reject my attempt to get them to look at God differently, it destroys the friendship. I have had friendships ruined because I kept pressing God on them and for whatever reason it made my friends hate me for it.

So fellow Christians, how should I begin to explain all of this to my friend to help him see?

79f045 No.586312

>>586306

How does one agree to being molested? You write like a weedo; do you need help getting off the bongs?

Make God cool.


0dee28 No.586314

>>586312

>how does one agree to being molested

ever heard of weinstein?

>you write like a weedo

ok

>do you need help getting off the bong

I've never done drugs before


79f045 No.586315

>>586314

One doesn't agree to being molested, anon, but one does agree to a belief.


a3e2ed No.586317

Show him a positive attitude with your behavior. Hope, peace, and happiness.

It would be convenient if you carry a symbol that he could associate with this state of mind.


0dee28 No.586318

>>586317

As far as symbols go, I suppose that whenever we watch a movie with crazy scenarios like Saw, in which someone would have to sacrafice themselves to save a group of strangers, I would always tell my friend that I'd be willing to die for others because I am saved through Christ so my death would be meaningless to me but could potentially save others.


80d17b No.586337

>>586314

>ever heard of weinstein?

If you agree to it, it isn't molestation. Weinstein is just getting thrown under the bus by a bunch of greedy whores that chose fame and fortune over their dignity and waited until they accomplished their petty dreams of being celebrities before deciding they could have their cake and eat it too if they cried victim. It's a ludicrous, despicable display, and anyone that actually thinks those women deserve anything more than being called out on their behavior is drinking the kool-aid.


7f6b87 No.586594

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You kinda don't need to debate him as he has already convinced himself at this point. Invite him to Church and see what happens. He already can see the wages of sin and how empty the elite are, show him the other path.


0dee28 No.586720

>>586594

good advice thanks


ff22bb No.586947

>>586306

Invite him to come to Church with you. Afterward go to a coffee shop and talk about it.


f4d72a No.587196

>>586312

Duress, hence why you dont consider a mugging a voluntary donation


e545ae No.587245

Intelligent Design was a big one for me. All matter in The Universe is just subatomic particles colliding, breaking apart and annihilating one another, so how can life and all the complexities of society be the result of random servings of particles?

A big reason for me to be religious instead of spiritual is the morality of organized religions. Before organized religions people were living in mud huts and eating each other, and today so many people are probably depressed because they lack the moral foundation that religions provide.

Everything that's a crime today is probably a crime because of The Bible. Thou shall not steal, thou shall not commit murder, thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife are the basis of law itself. There were also Judges in The Bible. Religion is the moral backbone of Western Civilization so unless your friend wants to live in Africa and get A. I. D. S. or eat mud then he should want to take part in it.


0a18af No.587293

>>587196

<dosen't understand that agreeing under duress & agreeing are two different things hence that's why they're called two different things




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