Who do you guys think is the most important apostle, Paul or Judas?

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Who do you guys think is the most important apostle, Paul or Judas? Christanon 01/03/18 (Wed) 18:34:06 208c59 No.583018

On the one hand, Christianity would not be nearly as large as it is today, or even exist, if it weren't for Paul's efforts, but on the other, the passion may not have even happened if it weren't for Judas' kiss of death.

Christanon 01/03/18 (Wed) 18:36:55 53f1be No.583020

Paul

one was chosen by God, one was chosen by Satan

Christanon 01/03/18 (Wed) 18:48:22 956b48 No.583028

Thousands of jews wanted to kill Jesus. Judas was just the one that managed to get there.

Christanon 01/03/18 (Wed) 18:50:46 4cabc4 No.583030

inb4 ridiculous heresy

Christanon 01/03/18 (Wed) 19:34:05 38be38 No.583057

>>583018

Are you saying Christ couldn't have atoned for our sins unless he was betrayed? Nonsense. God doesn't exist at the whim of Judas

Christanon 01/04/18 (Thu) 22:39:08 d16538 No.583834

>>583018

Jesus, being God knew that Judas would betray him even though it was of his own free will, so he is still accountable for his deeds.

Christanon 01/04/18 (Thu) 22:57:49 8cfd6e No.583840

>>583018

Peter is the most important.

Christanon 01/04/18 (Thu) 23:08:29 61ad40 No.583842

>>583840

This

Christanon 01/05/18 (Fri) 05:18:20 5bc77c No.583971

Paul

>Writes revelation and various epistles

Judas

>Kys himself

Christanon 01/05/18 (Fri) 08:36:03 be64b5 No.584065

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>>583018

>implying that Paul isn't the anti-christ.

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Christanon 01/05/18 (Fri) 09:08:06 465e2c No.584084

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>>584065

>Implying Paul is the Antichrist

I can see why non catholics heretics and apostates would think that since he proves scriptural basis for Catholic tradition.

Paul was chosen to preach to the gentiles while all the others evangelized Jews so singling Paul out bring possible judaizer to mind too.

Also >>583840

Christanon 01/05/18 (Fri) 09:21:55 07f75c No.584089

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>>583971

>Paul

>>Writes revelation

>Kys himself

Christanon 01/16/18 (Tue) 05:08:20 c31535 No.589721

>>583971

Paul didn't write Revelations, nut brain

Christanon 01/16/18 (Tue) 08:51:11 a7526c No.589757

Paul, but I feel bad for Judas.

"It would be better for that man if he had never been born."

Christanon 01/16/18 (Tue) 12:49:39 2d7c3b No.589795

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>implying the apostle who started his own pizza chain isn't the best

Christanon 01/16/18 (Tue) 15:29:32 94a989 No.589847

>>583030

obvious gnosticism is obvious

Christanon 01/17/18 (Wed) 03:28:11 d969de No.590136

>>583018

It's not about the importance of the disciples, but the importance of Christ.

I believe the Lord could have organized His salvation of mankind without any of the saints we read about, or even without the involvement of humanity past Christ's having a full human nature.

Christanon 01/17/18 (Wed) 04:40:27 2043e1 No.590152

>>589757

I asked my priest once if one could pray for Judas. He responded that you could, but perhaps your time might be better spent praying for other souls. But every now and then, I'll offer up a prayer of supplication that God's infinite mercy might even extend to the one who betrayed Him.

Christanon 01/17/18 (Wed) 09:13:49 d02e5c No.590199

>>590152

Judas doesn't want to be forgiven.

Christanon 01/20/18 (Sat) 22:38:42 bafa2f No.591832

>>590199

Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that. And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.

Matthew 27: 3-5

Judas didn't want forgiveness from God. At the end he only believed that Jesus was only a man, and it was his conscience that bothered him for killing a mortal man that didn't deserve to die in such a way. Yes, he was sorry, and if he could he would take back what he had done, but for the wrong reasons, and so in the end he hung himself for he had no more hope.

Christanon 02/05/18 (Mon) 04:14:19 78c147 No.599999

paul