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9bbc74 No.582054

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b87510 No.582057

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I know you're being facetious, but a lot of the issue with St Paul from modern "scholars" isn't that they blame him, but "interlopers" and "certain individuals" who have corrupted his works.

>Well, we see St Paul says X in the Epistle, but this was a later addition to the text. What Paul really meant was Y, being the total opposite of what we always believed! How convenient

>t. scholar


9bbc74 No.582061

>>582057

I think Bart Erhman with Paul's patristic letters are the clearest example of this. He constructed his own hypothesis on how the ecclesiastic structure would've looked like during the first century that contradicts the letter, yet from we have in the apostolic age disproves his ideals. And people exonerate him for it.


88d078 No.582065

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>>582057

>modern scholarship

Embarrassing stuff.


b87510 No.582068

>>582061

Biblical scholarship is just trash in general when not done with actual faith. It just becomes an arms race to see who can desecrate the Bible and the Word the worst.

The "Jesus Seminar" for example basically elected which of the statements Christ uttered they consider to be unquestionably authentic. They pruned the four Gospels to a few dozen lines and divested it of anything embarrassingly supernatural.

One of the worst things I think I have read is from Ehrman and John Dominic Crossan, though, who believes that Christ was just left to rot on the cross and was eaten by dogs and vultures.


4d5192 No.582069

>>582068

who could say such a horrible thing


3ef745 No.582089

>>582068

>who believes that Christ was just left to rot on the cross and was eaten by dogs and vultures

This is why the reprobate doctrine exists

Not an edgy fedora but true hatred of Jesus having known the truth.


c76461 No.582133

>>582057

Oh shit it’s that book. I found it in a bookstore once and posted pics here, but I didn’t save any of them. Really bad stuff




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