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53dbba No.580509

Hey /Christian/, I’ve been having some problems recently and would like your varied input.

Hell is very important to my spirituality and relationship with God. I’ve had something of a spiritual reawakening in the last few months, followed by a questioning of my Protestant denomination. Second to the Bible, the most important documents in either of these changes were Jonathon Edwards’ “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God” (which woke me up to how sinful my life was) and Saint Leonard of Port Maurice’s “On the Fewness of the Saved” (which got me to consider Catholicism seriously for the first time). This period of my life has been marked with a greatly increased strength of conscience, and as a result, I’ve abandoned parts of my life (most games, books, and tabletops) after finding them sinful and made many vows to do or not do certain things. Oftentimes my conscience forces me to take these vows; once it even caused me something akin to a despair-induced mental breakdown after I finally complied to it after being pressured for two days, but it didn’t grant me the relief I expected. As I’ve been considering Apostolic Christianity, which practices sacramental confession, I’ve also started writing down all my sins of both the past and present. I originally had a numerical labelling scheme for the severity of my sins as I wrote them down, with 1 being “minor” and 3 being mortal. A large number of these sins were level 3—mortal. Because of this, eventually 3 crept up to 5, then to 7, then 10, and so on. Now the highest level of sin at 21. I write these down constantly and have made a vow to God regarding the diligence I am to keep in this writing. These “sin-logs” are short, since I keep them on my phone, but I think I have somewhere around 100 or more pages, as well as text files on my computers and physical sheets for elsewhere. I’m beginning to suspect that maybe something is wrong with me, since someone who didn’t understand my situation would probably label me a graphomanic madman.

I bring this up because as I understand it, I am supposed to choose my denomination based on where my conscience guides me. Of course, if my conscience is malformed or scrupulous or obsessive-compulsive or whatever, this becomes a problem. I feel that Catholicism is drawing my conscience quite a bit, but it’s also the most “legalistic” denomination with a very narrow and difficult method of works-based salvation which apparently will weed out all but a few. This appeals to my fear of and focus on Hell, as well as “obsession” with my own sin. However, I’m afraid that these factors alone are drawing me in, rather than a good conscience given by God to lead me towards truth, especially because I’m beginning to feel like I just shouldn’t care about or bother with the other doctrines of Catholicism that I actually disagree with.

In light of this, I’ve considered seeing a psychiatrist to find a way to get rid of these mental urges so I can have a clear and unmuddled conscience, but I have my doubts. I understand they may prescribe me certain medications to get rid of obsessive thoughts, such as Prozac, but what if these drugs just kill my conscience or otherwise disable my moral reasoning? I’ve been praying, but I’m still very lost, brothers. Would you mind giving me some advice? Does it sound like I have a functioning conscience or am I just crazy? Is it spiritually dangerous to visit a psychiatrist and get medicated?

Pic unrelated.

4b7e41 No.580511

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>>580509

>Ask this in a Catholic majority board

What do you think the answers will be consist of?

https://www.ccel.org/s/schaff/encyc/encyc09/htm/iv.v.lxxiv.htm


96291c No.580517

>>580511

>worried about the Catholic majority

Catholic is the largest denomination of Christianity by a long shot.


4b7e41 No.580522

>>580517

Wrong. Nominal Christianity is the most popular. It comes in many forms, but it's founded in the influence.


4b7e41 No.580523


672fc2 No.580525

>>580509

Look, this going to be a little different. The will of God is that you do God's will. Are we called to contrition and amends of ways for our past acts? Yes, and I bewail the way I once lived. That being said, fear and doubt can be powerful tools of the devil - don't live in fear, live in love. Your sins are forgiven, now what? Now you walk with Christ and go do God's will. In the world. Outside. Be not afraid! Meditate on God's law, such that you can walk in his ways! Read your Bible! Works are sanctifying and will help you. Go forth, and be not afraid.

Though I am not EO, I recommend this catechism to all:

http://www.pravoslavieto.com/docs/eng/Orthodox_Catechism_of_Philaret.htm


96291c No.580526

>>580522

>>580523

Oh lawd … are you one of those "everyone is really Baptists" kind of people?


8acea4 No.580550

>>580509

At first, I was gonna chalk this up as another jesuit "conversion thread," but after reading on I realized what you need is to get right with God. I don't see the point in making lists like this if you know that God hears you already and it's definitely more important that you come to terms with actually defeating the sin in your life and allowing God to take it away through his blood, and allowing him to continually preserve you, rather than letting these things consume every waking moment of your life, which they otherwise would.


b9b5f9 No.580557

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>>580509

Congratulations on having had your eyes opened to the Truth. In Christ's own words: narrow is the way to eternal life and few that find it! Now that you've realized Christ instituted the sacrament of reconciliation at the last supper when he gave to his apostles the power to forgive sins, you need to find a good catholic church near you and start the process of joining the true Church founded by Christ on Peter. Find your parish here: https://masstimes.org

Whatever happens, you're in my prayers, brother.


80b93a No.580561

>>580509

>I’ve abandoned parts of my life (most games, books, and tabletops) after finding them sinful and made many vows to do or not do certain things. Oftentimes my conscience forces me to take these vows; once it even caused me something akin to a despair-induced mental breakdown after I finally complied to it after being pressured for two days, but it didn’t grant me the relief I expected.

Seems like cause for concern:

http://biblehub.com/matthew/5-37.htm

Maybe read this:

https://bible.org/seriespage/lesson-3-confident-about-salvation-philippians-13-6

Stop torturing yourself.


53dbba No.580580

>>580557

How am I to recognize whether or not I'm actually seeing the truth if I have trouble telling if I'm being lead by conscience or mental illness?


b9b5f9 No.580598

>>580580

A priest would be able to guide you and tell you whether you're experiencing normal remorse for your sins or if you're suffering from scruples. Keep in mind that writing your sins down in preparation for confession is nothing new and it's actually encouraged. As you're an adult who has never been to confession, it's normal that you'd have a long list of sins weighing on your conscience, as do most adult Catholics who have gone a long time without sacramental confession. Also, keep in mind that priests are trained to recognize spiritual problems from psychological ones, hence why you should consult one in the first place before going to someone who has no knowledge or training regarding the spiritual life.


4b7e41 No.580600

>>580526

Everyone who disagree with me is either a Jesuit-baptist or a Trekkie




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