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You don need to talk with them about God at all

I usually convert somone by making him think about reasons for existence philosophy and everyday challenges in our life spiritual topic are good too but it took a time to open somone mind

>>578474

>How do you guys try to go about converting your friends?

I don't. I just be a good, kind man, acting as an ambassador for Christ, and I invite them to church. If they don't want to go, so be it. They have to decide for themselves.

>>578495

>explain to them the cultural importance of religion in any society. Show the many problems growing from secularism in modern society.

seems like a bad idea, looks like a recipe for creating "cultural christians"

>>578474

My friends are Christians. I used to have ones that weren't, but they went literally antifa tier after high school so I just cut contact. The bigger, let's say, problem for me is that most of my friends don't really act like Christians when it comes to sexual morality in particular.

Here are my thoughts. Please note that I have never actually tried to convert anyone.

As I see it, there are three steps:

1. Argue that no thinking person can afford not to have a position on God and eternity. Even staunch atheism is better than a numb indifference, because that at least shows that you have thought about them to some extent.

2. Argue that the 'default' position of any thinking person is agnosticism, and not, as it is fashionable to believe, atheism. I cannot know that there is or is not a God, and no argument either way can really proceed on evidence, because the theist and atheist will immediately disagree on what is admissable as evidence, and besides, this would miss the point of faith anyway. To move away from agnostic indifference to one position or the other necessarily inolves desire. Do you want or doy you not want there to be a God? Do you desire that the universe is an ordered, purposeful place in which there is justice, or that it is nothing more than a giant cosmic car crash, in which there is meaning to our lives and in which your actions have no consequences beyond their immediate physical effects?

3. Argue that thr Gospel provides the best guide as to the mystery of the universe. Argue in favour of the religion of truth, peace, forgiveness and brotherly love. Bring together all the peculiar social and spiritual merits of Christianity. Ask, for example, why earthly power should pay any attention to the law unless that law has a divine origin in God. Ask what morality means if there is no absolute code, eternal and unchangeable.

This is, in a very abbreviated form, how I would go abput it, and how I in fact intend to approach the subject with my girlfriend (who was raised a Catholic) before we marry.

>>578576

Just as a side note, I'm very wary of women who are not Christian or used to be Christian because even if they converted I'd never be able to be fully certain they won't change their mind in the future.

>>578578

No one is born a Christian. A cradle Christian who has never seriously examined or tested her belief would worry me more than would an adult convert who thought seriously about religion and made a deliberate choice to join the faith.

>>578506

I've got the same issue as you. I don't think there's much I can do to help them though. They have to decide on their own.

>>578495

Is that a buttplug tower