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>music over 95 decibels slows brain reaction times

I'm not buying the Principle of Integral good argument, since it seems to make any sort of Church impossible, since all have contained corrupt members or enforced corrupt practices sometime in the past. It also seems to imply we can no longer do things like read classical myths since they contain bad parts.

That said, degenerate music should still be avoided since it's overwhelmingly a bad influence.

>>576806

I guess it depends on what you're listening to. Music (and other forms of art for that matter) have only helped to strengthen my faith in the past.

>Does the music itself have a negative effect on people?

Depends entirely on the music and the meaning the artist wishes to convey. If you exclusively listen to black metal then it's going to start having an effect.

>Should we stop listening to rock and other modern forms of music?

If you want to stop then that's fine, but you'd miss out on some good stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjPyvoLXPs4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsGODTySH0E

>>576806

>Should we stop listening to rock and other modern forms of music?

No. In fact, lots of metal puts me in a good mood and uplifts my spirit. Don't be a Jehovah's Witness.

>>576806

Does not even have to be Christian music to be okay. Secular music done proper are also fine.

Take this piece for example. He Lives In You. The lyrics is about Mufasa and Simba, but it could also mean Him. He created us in His image, He lives in us all, He watches us all, He is in our reflections, in the Truth.

>>576806

Not always. It is a very powerful motivator, which is something that's been well-known for quite a while since music has been around since nearly the beginning. It depends on what you're motivating the listener towards; what idea is it selling.

Personally I feel that everyone should be educated in one instrument or another because it would make the threshold of 'acceptable music' that much higher. When you understand why music works in theory, you have a craving for more challenging music so to speak. I can't stand most of the minimalist sound that's become en vogue in pop music today, but I also have over a decade of learning and performing music.

I don't think heaven would be complete without music. That's not to say I would reject heaven if it didn't, I just have this sense that music is inseparable from heaven. Music breeds community, as obviously there are plenty of subcultures that define themselves by the music they produce. A church is a community in Christ, and music helps to solidify and concrete that community, even in a worldly sense.

>>576927

I'm not saying music is intrinsically bad, but rather if certain genres are intrinsically bad.

>>576931

I didn't think you were, but looking at "Does the music itself have a negative effect on people?" can easily be interpreted that way.

To be honest, I'm not sure how to differentiate between morally good music and morally bad music, or that doing so is done at the level of music. I think whether or not music is good or bad is determined irrespective of the content or nature of the music. It's an aesthetic, no more no less.Evil has an aesthetic, and that certainly manifests in music, but the acknowledgment and even appreciation of evil aesthetics isn't evil in itself. Beauty is beauty. Awe is awe. Just realize that if you're not more smitten by the aesthetic of God's kingdom than the aesthetic of satan, that all that means is that you're sinful. It's indicative a of a deeper problem, rather than a problem in and of itself.

My question is; why aren't drums found in the Bible?