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>>573630

Sin is any action, thought, or speech that does not please God/breaks God's law. By His nature of infinite good, God cannot sin. The only beings that can sin are created beings with fully free will or limited free will, i.e. humans and angelic spirits.

1: God is the paradigm of goodness, He defines what goodness is, He is the standard, whether or not our actions are good or bad will be based upon how faithful they are to the standard.

something not good is a sin.

2: they were in accordance with His nature. they weren't chosen, they just are.

3: He doesn't need allowance from anyone, He wouldn't sin though because of his moral perfection.

4: no, angels have sinned too.

>>573630

I still don't know, myself. The one I'm most drawn to is the one that tells us that sin is anything that hurts the soul.

I wonder too, when we ascend to Heaven and feel comfortable, will the presence of God be addicting? I came to the conclusion that it wouldn't be.

>>573630

>What makes sin a sin?

Sin is an extension of free will; we can CHOOSE to not follow God's law, but we're recommended otherwise.

>Why did God choose some specific acts to be sin?

See above.

>Is God allowed to sin?

He can't, he's beyond it. He's perfect.

>Are sins only restricted to humans?

Creatures with free will can. I assume that also means angels, and possibly ayy lmaos.

>What makes sin a sin?

Any action that breaks one of the laws that God handed down to humanity through the various Covenants. Sin tends to be evil in itself, but what makes it a sin technically speaking is violating God's law. There can be actions that are not evil in themselves that violate a Covenant and so become evil by being sin.

>Why did God choose some specific acts to be sin?

A variety of reasons. Certain thoughts, actions, and speech are bad for us humans, either individually or as a community. God prohibited these things for our own good, and to help us maintain healthy, proper communities. On the flip side He declared some things to be sins in order to motivate us toward desirable actions that are good for us. Other things He declared sins for sociocultural or historical reasons, for example to influence history in a certain direction or to mark certain groups of people as distinct for His own historical purposes. Keep in mind that God made different Covenants with different groups of people, so what might be a sin for some people is not a sin for others.

>Is God allowed to sin?

God cannot sin, first because it isn't in His nature to do evil for the sake of evil, second because God is not a human, and so is not subject to obey the clauses of the Covenants that He made with humanity. When God did become human in the person of Jesus Christ, He never sinned even by that standard.

>Are sins only restricted to humans?

No. Angels can sin, too. Apparently there is a law that angels are subject to which I imagine it's very much like the Covenants.

Sin is the resistance against God's law. Sin is a defect in a literal meaning: it is deficiency of good. This basically means that God cannot sin, because he is unchangeable and it would be an oxymoron. Asides from humans, angels have sinned too. though imho they had it much easier. They don't have to drag sinstained bodies here and there and most of them won't be damned for eternity

>>573630

>What makes sin a sin?

Sin is the transgression of the Law (1 John 3:4).

>Why did God choose some specific acts to be sin?

Because they are contrary to Him and not good for us. Many sins have bad consequences for those that practice them in this life.

>Is God allowed to sin?

If God does it, it isn't a sin.

>Are sins only restricted to humans?

The Law was only made for humans.

Sin is what contradicts Natural law. There are a number of levels to look at this on, personal, between two people, between a community, between communities etc.

>>574025

>Many sins

Not many, but ALL sins are bad for man and have consequences do directly or indirectly. If God forbade it, it's because it's bad for us.

>>574031

I was thinking that someone could get away with committing a crime and not feel bad about it if they were a sociopath, and not suffer as a result of it until the next life. But yes, generally we will suffer in this life for our sins.

Everything that misses the mark and is not ordered towards perfection in God is a sin.

Yep you're pretty much constantly sinning hence your need for Christ

>>574031

Some of the sins of the Ceremonial Law were not inherently bad for humans apart from the fact that they were sins. These actions were essentially arbitrarily defined as sins, not because they were unproductive or unhealthy in themselves, but for some other purpose having to do with God's relation to His Chosen People.

For example, there is no direct negative material consequence for not wearing fringes on your clothing. But failing to do so was a sin under the Old Law, not because such an omission was a bad thing in itself, but because God wanted the Israelites to remember their spiritual connection to things larger than themselves (such as their people and their Covenant), and to mark the Israelites as a unique people by their distinctive dress. So not wearing fringes was a sin only by the Law, not because it's evil in itself. This part of the Law was also relative and only applied to Israelites, so clearly if something is sinful for one person but not sinful for another that thing is not in itself evil.

The Civil and Moral Laws on the other hand mostly list sins that are bad for their practitioners in themselves on both an individual and social level.

This also brings to mind the law of God forbidding eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Eve recognized that the fruit was good for eating, and nothing initially happened when she and Adam ate it, like they didn't choke on it, and it wasn't poison. Eating of the tree was a sin simply because doing so was disobedience to God's law. Eve said that the serpent deceived her. She and Adam had not in a magical flash been granted reason and sentience and "become like gods, knowing good and evil." It was just regular fruit. They quickly realized that breaking God's laws is sin regardless of the essential good or evil of the act in itself, and covered themselves in shame. God then sentenced them to death.

Of course in the above I'm considering material consequences alone and not spiritual consequences. Committing a mortal sin, even if it does no damage to the physical body at all, kills the spirit. Is that spiritual death a deliberate act of God or an automatic process of the nature of the human soul and universe?