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Yes, drugs are fun. That's why people take them.

You cannot reconcile your acid-induced fever dreams with the truth of the Gospel, nor should you want to. Be sober.

>>569264

I've had very similar experiences (although not quite to the same level) from intense meditation.

When I am trying to stifle my mind and failing, and especially when I finally succeed, I get this intuition that there is no real 'me' that is in control of my thoughts and actions. That it is all happening on its own.

Being one giant ball of crap sucks. Do you like race mixing as well? Solidify your ego, don't be like the pagan buddhists. Look at the chinese, they basically don't regard themselves as individuals and are just a collectivist hivemind.I know it's ironic, this advice coming from a chan site where everyone is anonymous..but seriously.. If you don't want to be swept away in a current of consciousness you need to be an individualist who strengthens their ego. you need to go against the current and swim upstream.

Being around people for too long affects your ego and is a distraction. By spending more time alone you strengthen your ego and your sense of self. Keep time spent with others to a minimum. See in the bible, when you're married you become one flesh? The way it works is that if you spend time with other people or something else you slowly start to dissolve as an individual and you become one with their consciousness (the two become one). The same thing happens when you give your time to God.

Ideally, you want to merge with God, not these heathens on this earth.

Also, your ego is what makes you who you are, you are nothing without it, just a blank piece of paper. By chance, you have become self aware enough to realize that's what you are, now go and aquire knowledge and solidify your ego, strengthening it. You need to become more and more self aware. Like skynet becoming aware of itself, that's what you need to do. Feed your ego be acquiring knowledge and then manipulate your existence navigating through a reality you have now become aware of.

Don't give in to the peachy rosey thoughts of becoming one with everything, that may friend is basically suicide. Suicide of the soul. Many people do that and they live and die almost mindlessley, in a mindless state. It's suicide of critical thinking, of the soul, of the self. Don't be like this. Question everything, be vigilant, never take the easy way out. SEEK GOD. Work HARD, always analyzing, never letting up. always trying again and again when failure knocks you down. Don't accept compromise.

>>569326

Peace is an illusion designed to throw you into a state of pacifism. When somethings too good to be true, it is. Good feelings ALWAYS have a catch, there's always something wrong, some hidden thing that you need to be suspicious about. The only thing you can trust is God.

>>569261

First of all: Drugs are bad hmkay ?

Secondly, ego death is, quite frankly spoken, bullshit. You don't lose your sense of "I". Infact, no one does and it is not possile, except you condition yourself that way - which is practically the opposite of creating a tulpa: But both is some kind of self-induced schizophrenia. Furthermore, God made /YOU/ - he made your soul, he made "your soul to be you". He made your soul personal - if you get what I mean.

So what's the deal now with "soul" and "no I" ? Well, first of all, your body and your soul are two different "entities", which are bound together. One of them, the soul, is immortal - the other is doomed to rot at some point in history. But there is also something else to consider: Your body is confinement. It is confined to 3-dimensional space and it exists bound to time. Your soul, on the other hand, is immaterial. What you think your soul is - the "I" that is confined to only you and your occupied space - is wrong. The soul has no boundaries in the classical sense. You can't assign physical dimensions to it - can't measure it as current or magnetic/electric field and so on. There are different hypotheses you can draw from that - but one is practically this:

What you experienced as "ego death" was nothing but the experience of your soul not being bound by physical space. That is: It might span the whole pyhsical universe and you wouldn't know it - because you can't know it.

And there we close the cycle: Ego death is nuts, because your soul does not "die" (obviously?) but it also doesn't "realize", that it is just a tiny cog in the machinery that is the (material and immaterial) universe.

Last but not least: Stop doing drugs, because it's stupid and you only delude yourself.

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Just here to remind everyone that God is actual goodness and light, hence enlightenment of soul is absolutely impossible by our own means without participation of God, for it would be an oxymoron. All the rest Dharmic tier garbage is a huge meme.

Stop using drugs, stop trying to end your mind. Instead, try to become perfect as our Father is perfect, imitate Jesus, keep the commandments and have active relations with God (prayer)

k. thanks

>>569407

Do conclude: Drugs are bad, ego death doesn't exist, enlightenment in the gnostic sense is bullshit and you should really focus on the Lord and keeping his commandments rather than chase a spectre that will never turn out to be true - because God didn't want it like that.

>>569326

This book is pretty relevant, especially the last chapter of it.

Buddhism, in Its Connexion with Brahmanism and Hinduism, and in Its Contrast With Christianity

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/47214

Buddhism contrasted with Christianity.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/47214/47214-h/47214-h.htm#c24

Psychedelic drugs are a smokescreen, and they do not bring you closer to God, because in order to surrender to God and receive His graces you need to have a conscious free will that is sober. Otherwise it's impossible, and you tie yourself closer and closer to the earth rather than God. Study, prayer, and sobriety are the means in which we do our works for Him.

Interesting comments.

Has anyone here actually tried psycadelics?

>>569261

Psychedelics don't bring you closer to God, OP, and in fact, they weaken your mind long-term and make you more susceptible to demonic influence

>>569694

ya quite a decent amount of psychs and disassociates (ketamine, dxm, salvia) and also i'm very exposed to buddhism based on my ethnic group and such

>>569823

i'm a minority catholic in a majority buddhist country background