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a3d58b No.563736

/christian/ I need your help.

I have spent the last two years researching and studying Christian theology and history. I at one point almost a year ago, understood that Christ is the Truth and got baptized into the Orthodox Church, more as a baptism into Christianity (I was in a prevalently orthodox country so that was the only church available to me at the time) than into Orthodoxy. But I did and still do not believe. I just can't believe. I know, I know with all my heart that Christianity is right. I do have doubts about the Orthodox denomination, but I'm sure as a man can be that Christianity is true and right. But I just can't believe in it. When I pray, I feel nothing, I do not feel the urge to pray, I do not feel I should pray and when I do it, I feel it's useless, almost stupid, even though I know it's right. Help me believe, Christian, because I'm sure as hell doomed if I don't, and the people who know me best have noticed it.

06e9bd No.563739

Do you smoke, use any kind of drugs, or have a fapping addiction? If so, cut that out. Those things can be emotion suppressants.


a3d58b No.563740

>>563739

I do have an habit of fapping, that I'm trying to root out, but I have had troubles feeling anything even before I started fapping.


02f3b2 No.563794

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>1: wrong church, Christ Church is the Catholic Church

>2: sorry you got fucked up by Protestants. You don't feel God, God has no relation to feelings. He can send you consolations, that make you feel particular way, but there only to encourage you.

loving God is having a firm resolution of your will, whether you feel good about it or not. You are most likely in a state of mortal sin, I would recommend starting RCIA in the Catholic Church. if you have any objections to the Catholic Church, then please post them and maybe someone can help you. I know we have many stumbling blocks in this particular age, but so did the apostles when Christ was dead. Christ was the way then and now.

I recommend you ask Mary to guide you to Christ and start praying the rosary.

By the way, do you know who uses emotions to control you? that's Satan. God is through the intellect, the will and reason.

> When I pray, I feel nothing, I do not feel the urge to pray, I do not feel I should pray and when I do it, I feel it's useless, almost stupid, even though I know it's right

that is when prayer is most meritorious. Keep praying and keep yelling out to God.


0fff30 No.563799

>>563736

Have you been to confession lately? Attending Liturgy? Often the feeling of disconnectedness from God is a result of unrepentance. I would advise you to try to find a spiritual father you feel close to and get real person to person spiritual advice.

>>563794

>God is through the intellect, the will and reason.

I'm sorry, but Satan is master of the intellect.


5c5e96 No.563803

fake it until you make it. if you smile even though you are unhappy, after a while you will start to simile genuinely. keep praying even though you do not think anything is happening. God sees your progress


02f3b2 No.563804

>>563799

Why are you sorry?


0fff30 No.563807

>>563804

Just being polite.


d52beb No.563810

>>563799

>I'm sorry, but Satan is master of the intellect.

Isn't he just the father of lies/master of lies?


6a3c93 No.563811

>>563799

I agree with this anon. But I don't think "Satan is the master of intellect", the intellect was made good as was every other part of humans, but it was corrupted and perverted by Adam's fall.

But I completely agree that emotions are not always bad. Sorrow is bad, but not always – sorrow because of sin is good because it drives us to make things right. In the case of commiting sin, i think joy is bad, but if the joy and happiness comes from prayer then it can't be bad.


95db75 No.563812

>>563811

well said my anon


0fff30 No.563813

>>563810

No man is more intelligent than Satan. He uses the intellect to deceive people.

>>563811

It has to be intellect subject to the laws of God, or else it's just pride.


7f6acb No.563917

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>>563736

I am in the same exact situation as you. I believe Christianity is true and right but I don't know what is keeping me from having absolute faith in it. I too pray but feel as if I talk to a wall. I have been praying the rosary for almost 4 months now daily, I have been reading scripture, and I have been attending mass weekly and have been going to confession monthly. If anyone read this I plead for you to pray for me to find faith in Christ.


5c5e96 No.563924

>>563811

do not trust the flesh until it is in a coffin 6 feet under


c1188f No.563964

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>>563736

Sounds like you need to be ELECTED!

Talk to a pastor who believes in the primordial traditions of Christ and His apostles (that's only found in the scriptures).


c93680 No.563966

>>563736

I had a simmilar problem at the begining. I'd recommend joining the Catholic Church finding a community or at least a friend with deep faith, you need an example to follow. Check if there's any at your church or a church near you. Also, keep on praying, that's only going to help. For me rosary was a great help, but I know it's not the Orthodox tradition, so maybe try Jesus prayer?


48d0cc No.564064

>>563736

It took me 18 years to get faith and I'm not even baptized yet.


04b911 No.564077

Many share your same burdens…even I often find my faith dwindling and my hopes in dire need of help. I am getting better; but we all face moments such as the one you described.


e6a83d No.564081

>>563917

You can walk away from religion but coincidentally you have to walk away from reality, if life means nothing then your believing is in vain, you can understand why you would want to believe in God but not why you should, it's called passive nihilism ( I think) and it's a product of our athiest society, Jesus calls it living in the dark, your aware you are alive ( the necessary root in the seed parable) but you are also aware of what makes you alive, in a sense what makes us tick phycologically and physically more than any time in history, but I've never heard any logic or argument that the Bible didn't already address, and you can say I think this way out of fear or romanticism but I have decided that life has meaning. When I try to understand the world in my opinion all roads lead to Jerusalem. Jesus is the phenomena of the ages and I cannot logically ignore that


db91d4 No.564094

>>563736

Here OP, hope this helps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvhT3L8tkwY&t=11s

Also read Hebrews 11


b81233 No.564097

That is the consequence of living in Neo-Sodom. The world has filled you with the disease of materialism and hedonism, they have made you accept every kind of godless filth until you reject God.

You are rotten inside. You still don't openly apostatyze because even with this disease, the moral laws are written in our hearts and we seek God. You will have to slowly cure yourself. Observve the world, yourself, and appreciate how mysterious and unexplicable it is, how everything ultimately leads to God.


02f3b2 No.565983

>>563736

>>563917

What would you guys describe Faith as?


1f77e3 No.565991

>>563803

This. Sola Fake.




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