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File: 694f9e45f2c9971⋯.jpg (95.17 KB, 768x432, 16:9, skysports-sergey-kovalev-k….jpg)

c21767 No.563410

How come nobody is talking about this?

>Sergey Kovalev

>professional boxer

>screw his career with bad habits and vices

>crash his car in the woods

>survives

>hit no trees

>break no bones

>decides to turn his life around

>goes to Mount Athos

>stays with the monks and pray for his health

>only stops praying to eat and sleep

>when he comes back, starts making healthy changes in his life

>aims to recover it's titles

Now guess what just happened last night

3aa96f No.563486

>>563410

No. Boxing is a blood sport and should be banned for being anti christian like the gladiatorial games were


9476ab No.563499

>>563486

>Beating with gloves is same as outright killing opponent brutally

t.


027557 No.563502

>>563410

That's not a miracle that's just hard work and not being stupid getting rewarded.


022919 No.563510

>>563486

I strongly disagree…boxing is full of great people and even if it is violent, there are great lessons in it.

t. former amateur boxer


e24fbc No.563520

>>563486

>Learning how to defend yourself, learn good fitness and discipline is bad.

>Hurr "violence".

You can't be this dumb.


7ca5a7 No.563521

>>563520

>beating up people and being beaten up in return for a living is the same as learning how to defend yourself

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dementia_pugilistica


867f2f No.563523

>>563410

Neat

>>563486

>no fun allowed

t. God supposedly


3aa96f No.563526

>>563499

Only 20% of gladiator games ended in death. What is the short and long term mortality rate of people who have their brains damaged from head beating for a living?

>violence is OK as long as it's poor people being paid to do it and I'm watching on my sofa eating popcorn

Just No.

St John of Chrysostom tried to get the hippodrome in Constantinople banned because of violence and hooliganism as well as being a pointless hedonistic waste of resources.


3aa96f No.563527

>>563510

Boxing causes massive brain damage especially in the light weight classes, which leads to psychotic violent tendencies and mental and moral impairment. If you want to learn lessons then read the Church Fathers and they will teach you that all violent sports are sinful


3aa96f No.563528

>>563520

Learning to defend yourself and boxing technique is good. Hitting people and getting hit in the head repeatedly is really bad.

Learn without doing this or enjoy your brain damage, although it seems that might be too late.


3aa96f No.563529

>>563523

God doesn't do "fun" only eternal perfect blissful happiness. Deny your hedonistic bloodlust


867f2f No.563531

>>563529

Your flag says catholic but your retoric stinks of lame middle-aged pastor Jim wearing ugly jeans, doing a rap of Jesus.


92575d No.563534

Fighting is an art.


dc516f No.563541

>>563410

God bless him.


e24fbc No.563543

>>563528

They're getting paid, they know the consequences, it's what they want to do. Goes for any sport. Enough with the moral faggotry, cathcuck.


6a9217 No.563546

>>563486

Father Mike?


a0cc94 No.563552

File: cf73844504e8f5a⋯.jpg (72.55 KB, 541x410, 541:410, 1293394624822.jpg)

>>563486

>Tfw hockey/football has more injuries than Boxing ever will


7ca5a7 No.563560

>>563543

False flagging is a sin anon


0bbde6 No.563561

File: 404ffb655d03e9d⋯.jpg (16.57 KB, 373x422, 373:422, IMG1596722860.jpg)

>>563552

>tfw the point of football and its excitement come from running the ball and quick jukes snd stuff

>tfw what makes you get at the edge of your seat in boxing and mma is the fact that a guy is being punched up and hopefully knocked out.

>tfw such a brainlet cant differentiate between accidental injuries that really cant be avoided vs when a sport is basically dedicated to two people going at it in a ring like dogs and plebs freaking out behind screens or in the stands


7ca5a7 No.563566

>>563561

>icefight injuries

>accidental


3aa96f No.563569

>>563543

Spotted the sodomite sympathiser. Same logic used to justify sodomy and prostitution.


3aa96f No.563570

>>563552

Any sport that involves high levels of injuries especially head impacts should be banned or changed to be safer as it is a menace to society


a0cc94 No.563574

>>563561

Yeah stomping on someone elses achilles tendon with a sharp ice skate or running 25 Km/h into someone sure is more civilized. Boxing has a lower injury rate than most other sports for a reason.


e55877 No.563588

So he gets in a car crash then orays with monks then wins his next game? How is that a miracle?

>>563486

weak


b38fb8 No.563605

>>563410

Can you post an article or something?


5689c6 No.563673

File: 81d7d7839da7458⋯.jpg (43.09 KB, 700x467, 700:467, Father Pierre Pepper.jpg)

>>563502

That was my first thought, but the near death experience and the turning himself to God made me think twice about it.

>>563521

>beating up people and being beaten up in return for a living is the same as boxing

>>563570

>changed to be safer

Current day boxing then.

>>563588

Survives a potentially fatal crash and only manage to change his crappy/sinful lifestyle after turning himself to God. And it wasn't just his next "game". He recovered one of his titles as a champion

But, yeah. The actual reason the thread's subject is presented as a question is because I've seen people refering as miracles to thing like this radical change of lifestyle while others only refer as miracles to blind people getting his sight back and stuff like that.

>>563605

https://www.si.com/boxing/2017/11/21/sergey-kovalev-vyacheslav-shabranskyy-light-heavyweights


035c89 No.563679

>>563673

No. It would probably be fine if they didn't punch the head. Any impact to the head no matter how small causes brain damage (studies show it is the amount of impacts more than the force that damages). It is incredibly unsafe. Even soccer with headering the ball has been documented to cause brain damage


e55877 No.563695

>>563673

So he was a degenerate then almost dies then stops being a degenerate then gets his title back? That's not a mirical that's just turning your life around.


e9c749 No.563778

>>563552

i never understood why he needed a cig holder for filtered cigs. i was under the impression that those were primary used for unfiltered cigs


e9c749 No.563793

God bless this lad. massive legend


b38fb8 No.563814

>>563673

Interesting article, thanks!


db8b45 No.563838

File: bcfa834b24640fb⋯.jpg (52.04 KB, 366x488, 3:4, 6b688184612712d3d693d7e604….jpg)

>>563527

I had a fascinating conversation with a friend, he argued that the brain damage from boxing wasn't always and issue, and that it's root cause was the addition of boxing gloves. He argued that boxers like pic related avoided punches to the head because it was painful to punch the bones in the skull barehanded, and that although it was a bloodier sport without gloves, cuts and broken hands were a lot easier to treat than brain damage, and that if boxers took off the gloves, the sport would be changed for the better.

Could anyone with experience in boxing tell me if this is a good idea? Or is it nonsense? How would boxing as a sport change if boxing gloves were banned?


1299f2 No.563857

File: 0afe27bbe6adaed⋯.jpg (563.39 KB, 822x1152, 137:192, Daniel_Mendoza.jpg)

>>563838

When you punch without gloves, people usually punch the head less or else you end up risking breaking a knucle. Gloves protect your hands, you are able to punch the head a lot more and do more injury.

Bare-knuckle boxing is more bloody due to a smaller impact zone and sharp bones, but does less damage to the brain.

Boxing has changed over time as well, the stance in yoru photo was when they only punhced, but back in (((Daniel Mendoza ))) time, you could grapple and thus the stances were diffrent.

Modern day boxing stance is a meme in an actual fight without gloves if the other peson takes the stance in your photo, you don't have gloves to ultilize the modern day boxing stance.

>t. spent a day free researching this and have never "boxed " in my life but been in some fights.


5689c6 No.563942

>>563695

Yeah, that could sum it up.

>>563838

No gloves = goodbye knuckles


3aa96f No.564026

>>563838

I have read this too. Bare knuckle boxing is a hugely safer alternative. Typical America to take a somewhat safe sport, clad it in armour and pump it full of steroids to create a brain damage inducing trainwreck abomination


d5a1f1 No.564091

A miracle is something that could not occur in nature without the literal intervention of God. Being more productive in life isnt a miracle, Christians dont worship Jesus because his preaching helped Peter and Andrew eat better and harvest more fish.

If we follow your logic all those people in prison who get off drugs thanks to Islam are miracle workers for Allah


6d56be No.564099

>>563410

Yes, yes it is.


624bfb No.564159

>>563529

>God doesn't do "fun"

>wanting to speak for the Lord Himself

"Then I was beside Him, as a master workman; And I was daily His delight, Rejoicing always before Him, Rejoicing in the world, His earth, And having my delight in the sons of men.…"

>Rejoicing: sachaq (saw-khak')

>to laugh (in pleasure or detraction); by implication, to play – deride, have in derision, laugh, make merry, mock(-er), play, rejoice, (laugh to) scorn, be in (make) sport.

>>563561

>puting boxing in the same place as mma

This much of a brainlet and yet so prideful.

>in a ring like dogs

Do you really think boxing is just two guys trying to hurt the other the most?

Boxing is a game. The possibility to get hurt doesnt make it sinful. Of course there is a lot of people using gloves that want just the violence of beating another person, but these people are not boxers.

>>563838

>>563857

>>564026

The gloves are meant to protect the hands, not the head of the opponent. Also, it makes it easier to knockout someone. Those bare-handed fights went A LOT of rounds until it was over, thus causing a lot more of injuries, like broken hand bones and cuts, even when only palm-striking. Rabbit-punching (behind the head) were more frequent also, and those are a lot more dangerous than any punch to the face, with or without gloves. And can you picture being punched in the liver with a bare-hand of an experienced figther? I would like to avoid that at all cost.

>modern day boxing stance is a meme in an actual fight without gloves

Agile footwork in a street fight is a lot more valuable than grappling skills.


b96f0b No.564162

File: a33dd2b9b6b8ed1⋯.png (114.02 KB, 300x300, 1:1, 1445893760867.png)

>>563502

Becoming Christian is a miracle mate.


92575d No.564166

>>563857

no its not a meme. There is no real difference


50c15d No.564167

>>564159

>Have fun in the Lord

>Rejoice in the Lord

>It's the same

Fun is hedonism which we are called to deny ourselves of as Catholics. Don't seek fun. Seek eternal happiness.


5aafb9 No.565147

>>563521

>>563561

>>563857

>>564026

>boxing is just hitting each other in the head

>like mma

>boxing stance is a meme

>bare nuckle is safer

It's okay if you think that, as violent as it may be, boxing is a sinful sport. And that's a respectable opinion. But there's no need to go around trying to look like you know nothing about it by talking nonesense.


7aef5d No.565155

>>565147

>getting punch drunk is a myth

I'll skip the reasonable doubt phase and go straight to calling you a liar because that's what you are




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