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Pretty gr8 comfy listening.

>>560729

>Bishop "We Have a Reasonable Hope All Men Are Saved" Barron

Babby's first apologist. Focuses on quantity of converts, not quality.

While I enjoy his pop culture commentary and the occasional comments on catholic authors, I get the feeling he rarely manages to more than scratch the surface of most issues and most of his analysis are shallow and superficial tbh (e.g. his commentary on Scorsese's Silence).

Sensum Fidelum outcompetes him in all things theological and spiritual and Fr Schmitz wins on everyday and moral issues.

We can have an unreasonable hope that all are saved.

>>560734

also

>hell is not a literal place

>adam was not a literal person

>>560729

>Bishop "Hell is empty" Barron

>Bishop "Adam was not an actual person" Barron

Sorry,

>>560741

*Sorry, but he's too theologically liberal

Based. :^)

>>560740

>>560741

So he holds heretical views contrary to former popes and Catholic doctrine? Pathetic.

>>560791

>I don't know anything about him

>but someone gave him "meme names" on 8ch

The critical thinking skills just never end …

bump

>le hell is empty man

>>560729

He made an interview or 2 I don't remember all that well with the Rubin Report. A youtube channel run by a faggot. I thought it was a mistake giving an interview to a homo, specially since he cucked out with his "trying to be friendly" attitude.

>>561183

>being friendly is cucking out

Why do you hate Jesus?

>>561215

I like the first pic. I made one of the passing girl memes for orthodox, latins, and turks, I think before this one was around, but that pic has a way better production

>>560930

>"Adam. Now, don’t read it literally. We’re not talking about a literal figure. We’re talking in theological poetry. Adam: the first human being . . ."

this is wrong

>"Hell” or Gehenna are spatial metaphors for the lonely and sad condition of having definitively refused the offer of the divine life."

this is pretty much correct

The Joel Ostien of Catholicism

His videos were a great comfort to me in my atheist years, kept me admiring the Church even if I wouldn't submit to it.

Adam not being an actual person is a pretty reasonable stance in light of evolutionary science and the Catechism (http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p1s2c1p6.htm, read paragraph 375), and I don't think for a second that he dismisses the spiritual reality of Genesis or the fall.

Reasonable hope that all men will be saved is heterodox, but not heresy, and he makes a clear distinction between Origin's heresy of universal reconciliation and Von Balthazar's theology. At the end of the day he defends the fact that grace can be rejected, and at the end of the day it isn't reasonable to think that a Charles Manson or a Caligula will be saved, but it also isn't our place to judge declare anyone short of canonized saints definitively saved or damned.