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>>560284

Rap is a style of rhythm. How it is used is what matters. Just like any form of music, not all hip-hop is the same. What I'm wondering is why this needed its own thread.

>>560291

Sure I understand that there are different artists with different styles, but I was wondering how different denoms view consuming media, music specifically, that adores a sinful lifestyle and if it is sinful to simply listen to it or is that an example of scrupulosity. Couldn't find a similar thread in catalog so created one.

>>560309

I see it as a Matthew 15:11 situation. What goes into my mouth - what I consume - does not defile me. If I happen to hear a song about worshiping Satan, it does not mean I have been defiled. If I actively seek to deliberately listen to such sinful music, then I am complicit in the sin.

>And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt. If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.

How was this not the first rap song?

>>560284

I used to listen to a lot of hip hop, dancehall and other types of bass music with it's roots in party culture that was based in pure hedonism and a lot of the lyrics were what I now consider horrendously foolish if not outright sinful or blashemous. Music like that used to be my life, something I lived for even though I was pretty far removed from the people/culture it was primarily aimed at. Not that there's anything necessarily wrong with that, and I was fine with it, not taking the lyrics seriously and thinking it wasn't affecting my worldview and outlook on life (wasn't the case). But I say this to say that since I've come closer to Christ my desire to listen to pretty much all those types of music has faded away, which would have been unthinkable previously. I would have thought this unresitant rejection would be the nautal step forward for anyone coming to Christ too, as God woos us and draws us near to him. I see this change as evidence of God's spirit working in me as part of my heart's regeneration.

To qualify this is all on the assumption that we're talking about the degenerate mainstream (and/or underground but still expounding the same negative values) stuff that's out there, where you're actually aware of what the lyrics are and the lifestyles and attitudes the artists are promoting. To me now it doesn't matter if the beat is infectious or the sub makes you pull a twisted bass face its so good, you have to ask yourself, it the content spirtually edifying? Does it glorify God? If the answer is no then I would stay away, even if you feel drawn to such music. If you still feel drawn to such music, then maybe give it time, and give more of it to God than to music. Then maybe you'll see (not necessarily you OP I know nothing about you but to all those out there who can relate to any of this)reminder that I am talking about (mainly mainstream/whatever) stuff mostly concerned with lyrical content, and am not trashing any particular genre wholly

Is that that Lil Peep guy? I hadn't heard of him till he ODd but apparently he's a big deal or something.

Start rappin' for Jesus

>>560354

Thanks anon. I feel like this is where I am coming from. I really appreciate the actual music and production and lyrical style, but the content of the lyrics is just so base and satanic honestly. There is a similar strain in most rock/pop music too (hedonism, nihilism, materialism). Where do you draw the line between what is edifying and what is simply entertaining? I know there is stuff where both are present, but can something be solely entertaining and spiritually dead and be consumed without a negative influence on your relationship with God?

>>560390

That's lil pump. He's actually trash while Lil Peep was /ourguy/

Listening to black men angrily screaming nursery rhymes about being criminals over stolen beats is not a productive use of time and the only way I could imagine enjoying or even being entertained by that experience would be if I was intellectually, culturally, and aesthetically slumming. It probably isn't a sin against God, but it certainly is a sin against good taste.

Delete all my nigger music last night because it's degenerate. Gregorian chant only for now on.

Deleted all my nigger music once I discovered Gregorian chant.

>>560284

Rap doesn't inherently need to talk about sinful things. However, I consider rap to be horrible from the musical perspective.

I myself am not comfortable with listening to black metal anymore. Some (much) of that stuff is absolutely Satanic. It may have opened a door to demons.

I don't think music needs to be perfectly orthodox to be acceptable. I know that I myself was helped to salvation by listening to an album from a band that doesn't even try to be gospel, just thoughtful and literate. You can take the songs as fictional stories.

It's the content that matters. Rap can be just as degenerate as katy perrys sex glorification.

However if you're in the US, 99% of rap is degenerate bix nood brainwashing. Rap is used as a canvas to push hedonistic drug using nigger lifestyles to already doomed minorities and not yet doomed middle class folks. It's a subversive industry wide push orchestrated by the zio media to further push the masses into barbarism, drugs and destroy the family.

Look up death row records and their kike and cia connections. Same goes for commercial pop. Look at youtube videos of the top songs for each generation and notice the trend: the browning of american, increased drugs and promiscuity. This doesn't even touch the outright luciferian symbolism and ideals being subtly pushed in corporate music. It's also interesting to note the push for more and more trance like music that appeals to base desires instead of reaching higher planes of thought.

While what you eat may not defile you, keeping on eating it once you know it's bad will only have negative effects. Therefore, modern rap and Christianity don't mix.

>>560284

Will I go to hell for listening to Beastie Boys? I mean come on, they're more a comedy act than a band.

Rap is Talmudic mind poison meant to weaken the goyim. It's straight up Satanic. They're not even trying to hide it anymore.