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Son of God Christanon 11/20/17 (Mon) 16:25:16 b624fc No.560049

How do you guys deal with the fact that throughout OT Sons of God mean angel yet Jesus use this title too? Is he really claiming to be the only begotten Son of God? It always appeared strange to me that in OT there were calling spiritual beings sons of God. What gives? Can someone explain more clearly to me the distinction?

Christanon 11/20/17 (Mon) 16:26:49 cb347f No.560052

>>560049

Title =/= nature

Christanon 11/20/17 (Mon) 16:28:35 4434e3 No.560055

The Bible also calls Christians sons of God.

Romans 8:14:

>For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.

The difference is that we are sons of God, but Christ is THE Son of God. As in, the heir, the firstborn. This is the relationships He has with the Father.

Christanon 11/20/17 (Mon) 17:11:40 b58ba0 No.560079

It was clear to the people at the time that Jesus was claiming to be God, not merely an angel or something lesser.

Mark 14:61-64

>61But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? 62And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. 63Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses? 64Ye have heard the blasphemy: what think ye? And they all condemned him to be guilty of death.

What Jesus said there is a reference to Daniel 7:13-14.

>13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

>14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

A king with an everlasting dominion, served by all peoples, nations, and languages, can only be God. This "blasphemy", of Jesus claiming to be God, is the reason why they put him to death. The high priest would have perfectly understood the reference. Also the expressions "the Blessed One" and "the power (of God)" are Jewish substitutes for using the name of God.

Christanon 11/20/17 (Mon) 18:34:25 98ab7c No.560124

>Sons of God mean angel

Hebrews 1

5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Christanon 11/20/17 (Mon) 19:46:24 38824d No.560166

Jesus is the only begotten son of God.

Christanon 11/20/17 (Mon) 23:15:23 ad0b62 No.560282

First of all, angels are not called son of God as Baptist pointed out.

Second of all, Angel of the Lord, mentioned in OT ascribed to himself divine traits and accepted bowing and worship, whereas actual angels refuted when men attempted to do so. Hence Angel of the Lord is God the Son, while "Angel" here denotes function of the messenger

Christanon 11/20/17 (Mon) 23:26:17 0e2f01 No.560300

>>560282

>Hence Angel of the Lord is God the Son

I would like to add additional notes to this because people will get confused.

I debated on making this post because I'm not a priest but here I go

There are two ways to exist in this world, this is rather obvious form scripture. Nobody has seen God the Father, but he has "appeared" on the world in the Old Testament.

The only way I can explain this is that he appeared as the angelic host(The beings you know as "Angels") walk in the earth, not as humans walk the earth. The difference seems to be, to me, that humans are actually there and angels only manifest a representation of their soul.

I do not understand the specifics very well but it seems very clear that those are different.