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"Liberal Christians" aren't even bad Christians. They aren't Christians at all. They're false Christians.

>>558934

Pretty much. I can’t decide which is more insulting, "Jesus was just a cool dude who preached love and tolerance and everything else is just ancient bigoted mumbo-jumbo fairy tales" or "Jesus (as) was actually secretly a Muslim preaching the word of Allah (no relation) and who only pretended to die on the cross and everything else is the evil lies of Paul (lanatullah)"

>>558930

It depends. There are those who look at the verses praising the poor and condemning the rich and take that as socialism. And those who take the turn the other cheek thing as pacifism. I think you could be a faithful Christian and hold those views. On the other hand Christians that believe gay sex is fine and abortion is a woman's right are not looking to scripture for doctrine, they support these things to be popular with the world.

>>558930

Justification to partaking in sin by twisting the words and rationalising sins so they will not feel bad or damned about it. So they do the mental gymnastics until it is acceptable and partake in it. Prime examples being "It did not say in the bible directly that it is a sin to fap.", "Bible say it is not the thing which man put in the mouth and damns him, that includes dicks.", etc.

I just spent a few minutes lurking r/Christianity. It's infuriating. Anyone who speaks common sense or supports traditional Christian beliefs is downvoted to oblivion. I get the impression that a lot of the people there were raised Christian but were completely secularized by culture. They're too pussy to admit to themselves that they are no longer Christian, so instead they spend their time trying to find loopholes and break down the faith into something more wishy washy, like them.

They have become the devil sleepers.

>Did they begome just because it was hip and cool or something?

I think it's this. A lot of them from what I've seen are middle class SWPL types who tend to have "friends" from "diverse backgrounds" (fags, trannies, muslims, atheists, feminists, etc.) so they don't want to take up any position which makes them seem intolerant/bigoted/racist/whatever. I think they like the idea of being one of the "good christians" in their little group of reprobates who is on "the inside" calling out injustice/bigotry/whateverthefuck from "extremists" (actual Christians).

>>558930

The disease is slow and progressive. It starts with clergy that have become liberal or are beginning to become more liberal. As such the sermons will begin to take a more and more liberal slant, acting upon the congregation as a form of indoctrination, whether intentional or not.

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>>558930

>Ever since it was proven for me that God was real

Are you for real?

>>558934

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>>559003

>the are not real christians like me reeeeeeeee

Not how it works sweetie. You don't own your religion. Just because those people disagree with you, doesn't mean they aren't Christians.

They're not Christians. They're subversives.

>>559030

Secularized religion is not religion.

>>559030

It's not a matter of disagreement. You can't be a Christian and support things which God doesn't.

sweetie

>>559038

WHOSOEVER

>>559030

are you lost?

>>559030

>Doesn't believe physical, visible miracles happen

Get out! Get out!

>>559039

>whomstsoever

fixed

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>>559041

Stop crying please. They are Christians by any meaningful definition.

>>559042

>Doesn't believe physical, visible miracles happen

I have never seen one, so why should I believe it?

>>559045

I just don't understand why you wouldn't just be an atheist instead of pretending to believe in Jesus Christ. Are you just afraid God will BTFO you if you don't say you're a Christian?

If the meaning of life is just about hippy love and tolerance or whatever, why wouldn't you just become a Unitarian Universalist? They're like 10 times as pozzed as liberal Christians.

>>559045

>I have never seen one

Mate you're on the internet. You can punch something in the search bar and find some reliable source(This part might be hard if you're new but certainly you're not new).

Then maybe you'll take this "God is real and he's more important than modern culture" stuff seriously.

>>559045

I'm crying because of your disbelief, sweetie.

>>559045

>people are Christians because they say so

Not how it works sweety, sorry!

Some people get zogged by the TV and start spouting liberal spew because they genuinely believe what it says and mean well. Being stupid doesn't make you evil. Before you write them off you should at least try to show them how they're being tricked.

>>559030

>Not how it works sweetie. You don't own your religion. Just because those people disagree with you, doesn't mean they aren't Christians.

It's not about disagreeing with me, it's about disagreeing with Christ and his apostles as revealed through scripture.

>>558930

They're just ignorant at most, guilty of not listening to the primary source. If you told them why they were wrong, then they would likely agree with you.

For example, with healthcare, they're repeatedly told by multimillion dollar comedians like Colbert/Stewart/Kimmel that Republicans want to intentionally kill people by removing the ACA bill. Stating that Republicans are non-Christian for not helping the sick. What those false prophets neglect to tell them is that the ACA forces everyone to pay non-fixed health insurance, if they can't, then they're penalized with a non-fixed fine. Jesus said along the lines of the rich should assist the poor, not "the government should force the poor to buy health insurance or else they'll pay a fine for it to ultimately fund a rich medical industry".

The issue with modern society is that people aren't willing to listen to detailed truth and think heavily, they just want to listen to oversimplified bullshit and act immediately.

>>559135

>If you told them why they were wrong, then they would likely agree with you.

Have you ever actually tried talking with a liberal? lol

>>559160

It's pretty tough. They get lost if you say anything longer than a anti-rightwing catchphrase.

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>>559133

Checked and approved.

>>559030

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>>559045

Checked and found wanting.

>>559199

Dubs Idolater pls go.

>>559210

Envy is a sin.

>>559199

Checked

>>558930

Christians who become liberals do so because they are stupid and have a low understanding of Christianity.

>>559030

>sweetie

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>>559045

>>Doesn't believe physical, visible miracles happen

>I have never seen one, so why should I believe it?

This is a meme, right?

You're not actually serious, are you?

>>558930

Liberals have skewed understanding between the difference God and humans. Just observe when they encounter a passage or theological question/position they don't agree with, even if it's clear as the sky on a sunny day, they insert their own agenda into God's mouth. They seem to have no concept of conforming into Jesus's image, rather we see opposite. Now I've seen similar influences with the conservatives, but not as bad of the liberals.

>>559869

>We might tower over liberals with our refusal to endorse teh gay but for some people it is only because they are naturally or culturally repulsed by the very idea, so gays being rejected by God seems normal to them. However, these same folk are in danger of the very same sorts of faulty-founded logic that says things about God that are not true.

You are part of liberalism though. It's a gradual progressive departure characterized by compromise after compromise. And that is the message you're bringing us. Before the 1960's there was no tolerance for such ideas.

>but it's one moral issue of thousands, and we tend to forget or just neglect the rest of those.

Ok, even if we do, you're kinda the one bringing up this issue here so in response to that I have to say that rampaging barbarians at the gates shouldn't be treated like "one moral issue of thousands." They are trying to castrate children right now, against the will of the parents. If their agenda succeeds, it will soon be illegal to protect your young child from sexual predators on the pretense of "tolerance for oppressed LGBT persons." This is highly disruptive to our way of life. To not recognize the fact they are currently waging an all-out war on our way of life, and that we must resist immediately and proactively, is also serving their agenda.