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ab029e No.557826

For my Cathbros, I found this painting called "St Pius V and St. Charles Borromeo defending Catholicism against Islam and the Protestant Heresy." As soon as I saw it, I thought of the Catholics here

c708b5 No.557828

I wont post anything on specific denom, I just hope that we. every trinitarian Christian and Mankind in general, will celebrate victory of Christ together in new heaven and earth.


296926 No.557835

File: 015b02c8603aa45⋯.jpg (116.47 KB, 1000x717, 1000:717, meme.jpg)

This should be made into a /christian/ banner somehow, this is hilarious.

Here's something of a similar vein.

>>557828

Amen.


ab029e No.557849

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>>557835

The guy is a modern Catholic artist named Giovanni Gasparro. His stuff is pretty cool and surrealist. He made a badass painting of Nicholas and Arius I can't find right now


709461 No.557853

I have yet to interact with a bad Anglican.

You guys are the nicest people here.


36abc5 No.557861

>>557826

It's nice that "orthodoxy" manages to keep the cognitive dissonance about their own lies up to this day. That requires some real mental strengh.


683118 No.557863

File: 80c2915f23a397d⋯.png (2.07 KB, 388x409, 388:409, 1407037418499.png)

>>557861

Are you protestant by any chance?


296926 No.557866

>>557861

Did you reply to the wrong post?

If you meant to reply to >>557835 - that's some True Orthodox schismatic artwork. We don't like those guys either, you know.


814a50 No.557869

>>557861

Orthodoxy is a lot more internally consistent then Catholicism, and both Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism make more sense then LARPing: the religion Eastern Catholicism


36abc5 No.557874

>>557869

Like encouraging dicorce and contraception. Or letting the laity *vote* on dogmatic matters ? Or like not being able to assemble an "ecumenical" council (haha I know, no ecumenical council without the Pope, but y'know, I'd give you that) over the question of which patriarch sits where.

You are the laughing stock of the Christian world. Even [any protestant sect] is better than you, because at least they admit being protestants.


683118 No.557875

>>557874

>Praises protestant sects next post

Yeah, definitely protestant D&C.


90455b No.557876

>>557874

Recent Catholic convert, perhaps?


296926 No.557877

>>557874

Which Eastern Catholic Church do you belong to?


30537d No.557879

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43c30e No.557908

>>557863

West Ukrainian. Their always so grumpy.


e1accf No.557937

>>557874

Falseflagging is a sin covered in the "Thou shalt not bear false witness" commandment.


dc27a2 No.557968

>>557869

>LARPing: the religion Eastern Catholicism

Not sure why you think it's LARPing.


524039 No.557971

>>557968

Uniatism is the definition of LARPing. They don't say the filioque but they have to believe it. They get to pretend like they're Orthodox while actually being Catholic.


36abc5 No.557974

It's super nice that "orthodox Christians" consider themselves to have a "Church", while in reality they're broken up national clubs that basically believe the same as us protestants - except the Eucharist, of course - and they don't even blush !


683118 No.557978

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>>557974

>Forgets to change IP

>Changes flags


36abc5 No.557981

>>557978

No I didn't forget that, because it was not needed for obvious reasons. Silly you


524039 No.557986

>>557981

>>557861

False flagging is wrong anon.


c428e5 No.557987

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>>557826

I saw it on r/Catholicism today. :D Do you browse there? It's surprisingly such a traditional forum, especially since it's on Reddit.

Baptists:

I admire your dedication to the faith against a lot of mainstream society and I really admire your love for Scripture. My guilty secret is that I like to watch Steven Anderson videos and he's actually helped me with my faith more than once when I was struggling.

Orthodox:

I love the beards (lol) and the general aesthetics of your churches. I've never been to a Divine Liturgy, but I would definitely like to visit a parish to see it (only recently I've been to a Latin mass in a Catholic parish and a Divine Liturgy at an Eastern Catholic parish). If I wasn't a Catholic, then I would definitely become Orthodox.

Anglicans:

I've never met one IRL, but the ones I've meet here have been great guys (and girls). I've never seen an interaction where an Anglican has been uncharitable or rude, hands down the top posters here.

Lutherans, Calvinists and other Protestants:

I didn't know much about your denominations before coming here, but I'm learning a lot.


36abc5 No.557988

>>557981

Well, maybe it is. My points are valid nontheless. Orthodogs are as laughable as can be. Even my boi Luther would've died of laughter knowing the "orthodoxy" of today.

Also related to thread: It's totally nice that the arrogance of orthodogs knows no end - for example when we speak about re-baptism of catholics(!!). Very nice that they aren't ashamed.


c666b5 No.557992

I'm not quite sure what denomination I am right now, but Catholics have incredible aesthetics.


524039 No.557994

>>557988

You must harbor a lot of hatred in your heart, stirring things up in a thread about complementing others.


36abc5 No.557997

>>557994

I am complementing man. My first post very related. To maintain THIS level of cognitive dissonance for almost a thousand years takes up a huge amount of discipline and mental strength. Kudos for that


43c30e No.557999

>>557875

You called it!


1cfaa1 No.558001

>>557866

recent convert perhaps? that icon is based off a 17th century prototype, show some respect please


36abc5 No.558002

>>557999

Or maybe not ? You never know, a wizard does what he wants, when he wants


3c5507 No.558004

Those who take sola fide seriously and don't change their behavior will experience a cooler version of hell for being very ignorant not totally evil


c428e5 No.558009

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>>557849

I really like his work


296926 No.558025

>>558001

I was not aware that the icon is based off a canonical prototype. Do you have ressources on that?

Nonetheless, my iconographer friend has told me that this icon in particular was non-canonical both because of its structure and because it is mainly used by schismatics. Now, maybe he got it confused with another, I don't know…


1cfaa1 No.558029

>>558025

>According to the one whose hand the icon was written by:

>"The Mystical Icon of the Holy Church is taken from prototypes from the 17th Century. In the middle, of course, the Church is symbolized as a ship with Christ at the helm holding the holy Rudder. The Rudder in the Orthodox Church is the book which contains the Holy Canons which directs the Church in the proper mode of conduct and confession of Faith. Inside the Ark is the Virgin Mary, and in front of her are the four Evangelists, John, Matthew, Mark and Luke. At the bow of the ship are Peter and Paul, holding the anchor, which is shaped in a three pronged end, signifying belief in the Trinity. Behind them are the Holy Fathers of the Church, Saint John Chrysostom, St. Gregory the Theologian, St. Basil the Great, St. Athanasios of Alexandria, and St. Gregory Palamas, with multitudes of holy Fathers, and Mothers, and Martyrs, etc., etc., as signified by the halos. This all symbolizes the bosom of the Church, both triumphant and militant.

>On the bottom of the icon are the enemies of Christ and His Church; that is, all who have fought against Her and persecuted Her, for if one fights against the Church, he is fighting against Christ. From left to right, Antichrist is depicted as a king on his horse and behind him is an old man with a crown on his head, signifying Israel with the star of David on his crown, holding a bag of gold. He has his arm around the harlot of the Apocalypse, with her cup in her hand. Below Antichrist are those who will fight for him. Antichrist is going to come from Jewish lineage, and will reign in Jerusalem and will want all to submit to him. Those who do not will be persecuted. This is the symbolism of those who are under the caption called Antichrist and his Minions.

>Next to him to the right is a dreadful looking beast, which is called New Age. New Age is a revival of paganism presented with new packaging. It encompasses the occult, which has absolutely no reverence for Christ.

>Next to him is a king on a horse, with a drawn sword in his hand and he is labeled The Persecuting Ruler. Throughout the history of the Church, kings, emperors, governors, etc., have abused their power either by trying to destroy the Church, or by reaching into the realm of the Church to govern it themselves, which is forbidden to them. The Church is governed only by the bishops.

>Next to him is one example, the Emperor Leo the Iconoclast, who has a spear in his hand, ready to throw it at the Ark, because he dared to take away the icons which are the glory of the Church and also a dogma which one must believe in to be Orthodox.

>Next to him is Luther, with a rifle, ready to shoot. Luther, of course, rebelled against papal abuses, but instead of going back to the Orthodox Church, created his new church, which is properly named not after Christ, but after him. This man symbolizes all of Protestantism which followed his bad example.

>Next to him is Lenin, with his Russian pistol carefully aimed at the heart of Christ. He tried to destroy the Russian Church by putting his own KGB agents as bishops. He killed Patriarch Tikhon, who was the heart of the Russian Church, but failed to understand that the Church is not centered around one person. The Church went into the catacombs and lived. One of the bishops of the Catacomb Church was one of the three consecrating bishops who ordained our Archbishop Gregory.


1cfaa1 No.558030

>>558029

>>558025

>Next to him on the bottom right side is a great beast, with an open mouth, and in his mouth is Mohammed with his tumor on his back, with a drawn bow and arrow directed at the Ark. Mohammed had a tumor of dead skin that protruded from his back, which he told the Arabs was the mark of him being a prophet. Islam has subjugated the Church in the East since the eighth century.

>Above him is the Pope, with a long, hooked rod, trying to pull down the bow, either to capsize the boat or redirect it in a direction contrary to the direction that Christ is steering the Ark. When the present day papacy came into being around the year 1054, the pope proclaimed himself as the vicar of Christ and also Christ on earth, thus fighting against the true Christ.

>Next to him is Eftyches, the heresiarch who would not accept the decision of the 4th and 5th Ecumenical Councils that Christ has two natures: Christ is both perfect God and perfect man. Eftyches divided the Church with his followers who believed that Christ had only one nature. Therefore, he is depicted with a pointed cowl on his head, which is what the Monophysites wear to this day. Monophysites include the Copts of Egypt, and the Armenians, who are located around Palestine. Behind Eftyches is depicted the demon of the Monophysites and Monothelites.

>Next above him is the "Orthodox" Patriarch of Constantinople, Athenagoras, the father of modern day Ecumenism. He also has a hooked rod, trying to redirect the path of the Church. He was a 32 degree Mason, and behind him is the demon of Masonry, who has around his waist the apron which Masons wear with the square and compass and the letter G in the middle. Masons embrace all peoples and faiths into their religion. Ecumenism accepts all religions with a desire to create a one world religion. An Orthodox bishop cannot accept Ecumenism. It is the heresy of all heresies. Because these "Orthodox" bishops accepted the false belief of all religions, not only heretical Christianity, but also Judaism and Islam, saying that "we all worship the same god", just as Masonry tries to do, they are not Orthodox, and in fact fight against the Church."

>Deeming someone unworthy/judging them: sinful.

>Refraining from communion with heretics/separating from the believer who flaunts the church's commandments: commanded from St Paul through the Fathers until today.

>I think that these icons are part of the tradition of the Church based on historical examples pointed out; the real problem is how people respond to them. Do we look at these heretics and think "how can I keep from becoming a heretic?" or do we get full of pride and think "I am ORTHODOX. I belong to the TRUE faith! Look at those STUPID heretics!" If that's the case, we missed the point.


296926 No.558032

>>558030

I want to know about the 17th century prototypes though.


296926 No.558037

>>558030

Also, if this is written by the writer of the icon, then it literally admits to being schismatic True Orthodox nonsense, as it questions the canonicity and orthodoxy of Ecumenical Patriarch Athenagoras, and implicitly of bishops that do not reject him as a heretic. So yeah…


1cfaa1 No.558078


1183ff No.558102

I don't know of any sedememers aside from Dimond, but they do make some goos videos.




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