/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

>>554545

How do we unravel them?

>>554546

Teach them true history, and unravel their conception of "white" people; which, ironically, is completely engineered by Jews.

most of /pol/ literally believes it's been white people vs everyone for all of human history, meanwhile the Irish and Polish were considered sub-human by Americans/Brits about a 100 years ago. And so on with countless examples of "white" ethnic groups "in-fighting" I guess.

>>554550

>Irish and Poles

Both were slave races before the discovery of Africans as slaves.

>>554545

So basically, they have a lot of common misconceptions of Christianity and are decadent betas

>>554541

Can't wait for the pagancucks to start posing

>>554546

You can't, I've tried. You can confront them with the Talmud, Revelation 2:9, birth rates and church attendance, the moshiach and the antichrist, the pharisees, cultural marxism's direct hostility toward Christianity and they don't listen. On the upside there are Christians there already, but others are too stuck in worldly things to get it. At least it seems so for now.

>>554560

>>554580

there's one

>>554545

#1 Christianity doesn't explicitly deny racemixing and Christians are too welcoming of foreigners

Neither does paganism. Most neopagans are far left hippies. Show them pictures of Wiccan covens holding "refugee welcome" signs.

#2 Jewish apostles + God is a Jew + God nailed to a cross = shameful to them

Hebrews =/= Pharisees. It helps to calmly explain that the Pharisees are evil and murdered Christ, and that the "Jews" of today are the Pharisees.

#3 they are still enslaved by certain vices, sexual lust, tranny fetishes, violence fetishes, deathsquad fetishes, worship of blood and soil, genetic worship

These fetishes are really the root of the problem. We're dealing with people who have been deeply humiliated and rejected. They turn to these ideas to give them a sense of power. It should be easy to explain that Nazism and paganism are weak because they lost.

#4 they think Christianity destroyed European potential and created weak men and basically regurgitate what Nietzsche taught them

Nietzche went crazy because he couldn't overcome nihilism. Europe was at its height when it was Christian.

Anyeay just some thoughts how we could approach the matter.

>>554613

American Blacks only became disproportionately violent after the 1960s. Their partaking in mass apostacy probably has something to do with it.

>>554550

as an Italian, this: they always talk about how "we whites must stay together!" then I say "as an Italian…" and explain why I have a slightly different opinion and the only answers are focusing on how we "medcucks" are a bane to Italy. Like >>554549 said, they are driven by hatred and also pride: now that Brexit is happening, the English posters call other Europeans "eurocucks". /pol/ claim Jews and Christians to be the ones bringing the "divide et impera" among them, but they did a pretty good job on their own, I'd say.

>>554618

Hmm, thank you, I will consider this. PS, is a Catholic obligated to support mass immigration? Living in Canada, we are undergoing an unprecedented change in demographics, and I would obviously prefer for those people to be

1) Christians

2) North western Europeans

3) Fluent in written/spoken English

4) Wealthy

5) Have a job lined up

6) Come with their families (more stable)

7) No criminal record

But from reading the Catholic Catechism, it seems that points 1 and 2 would be verbotten. Is it lawful for a Catholic to oppose non-Christian immigration, or do we have to allow non-Christians into our country?

>>554628

No; we understand that we have to help others, but we also need to be smart about it. If you got a boat that can take up to twenty persons, there's ten of you in it and you see a ship sinking nearby, you will understand that you can save only ten persons and try to throw the others some lifesavers and call for help for them to be rescued. Bringing too many people aboard would cause your boat to sink as well and all to die.

As for your list of who we should take, I agree we should pick mostly Christians who have little to no criminal record and who are willing to integrate and assimilate into our society, culture, language. We can deny the passage, but not hate on them…if we cannot help them in our own Countries, we should device a way to help them in their own Countries.

>>554643

Right.. and I understand that I am not prohibited from individually embracing my ethnic heritage (British) as a Catholic, but what is up with paragraph 1935 in the modern catechism that seems to decry discrimination on the basis of religion? Should we not prevent Muslims from living in our communities? Shouldn't our goal be to convert them before we invite them into our neighborhoods?

They have had their chance to hear, and have denied us, and Jesus, and the Father. It is time to brush the dirt off our feet and move elsewhere.

WHy it's always asking about converting /pol/ and not other boards? There are other people too.

>>554662

Most people here are recovering /pol/acks and have nostalgia for it. But yeah, other boards need evangelizing. Arguably /pol/ is least deserving of being saved but alas, their souls count too

>>554668

That and the fact that /pol/ remains the epicenter of the online meme economy. As goes /pol/, so goes the internet

You evangelized me through /pol/, mostly through Christchan I might add. That being said, I was already curious about Christianity and owned a Bible, I could just never commit.

The biggest thing for me was I unironically believe in dubs and kek, and then I realsied, if I believed in a frog God why wouldn't I believe in GOD. Trump's victory was the final evidence I needed.

The problem is that most on /pol/ are ultra conservative and see Christianity as weak and liberal in nature, they don't understand that you get both liberal and conservative Christians. They blame society's liberalism on Christianity but really that liberalism is anti-Christian and has been that since the French Revolution. They just don't see it and like to scapegoat Christianity.

Not to mention the Jew thing.

>>554541

>More on /pol/ need to accept Christ.

>How do we successfully evangelize /pol/? What do we do?

To accept Christ they must first reject the Pope.

>>554545

>/pol/ hates Christianity for 4 reasons

Actually we only hate Catholics. (t. /pol/ oldfriend)

>>554675

damn you must be a smart person in irl hehe praise kek

>>554675

>Catholic flag

>The biggest thing for me was I unironically believe in dubs and kek

Makes sense, believing in the Pope is not much different.

>>554643

Haven't ministries and missionaries already been brought to these people? The U.S. and other western nations have been handing out aid to these undevoloped countries for a while now as well. But nothing seems to work these people revert to chaos and poverty as soon aa the Americans/Europeanns leave

This is how God brought me to him: first I became obsessed with /pol. Painful process to see all that evil. Also tiring and reactive.

Questioning meaning of life and of it matters what we do with it.

Then I found 'a call for an uprising' and went through the video list with the satanic symbolism. Which was basically just a rehearsal of what I already knew. BUT it was like all.the dust settled. The freemasons, illuminati, depopulation,

Georgia guidestones, Chemtrails,

Tranny agenda, gay agenda, transhumanism, synagoge of satan, Christmas, Santa, easter,

Birthdays, pedophilia, destruction of the church, rise of all other religious, GMO foods, rise of depression, destruction of families, etc o could go on.. .Suddenly it all made sense.

And then I thought.. Wait a minute.. They believe in a higher beeing but we are told that that's silly. They say that their good is good, but they rape children. kinda gets you thinking.

>>554628

Housing prices in Canada have become absurd in recent years due to mass immigration. A 60 year old bungalow on a 60x100ft lot will go for over one million even if it's never been renovated. I'll have to move close to 100 km away from where I currently live if I ever want to buy a house.

>be Christian

>Liberals think you're a right wing religious zealot

>Neoconservatives think you're an anti-Semitic nazi

>/pol/ thinks you're a Jew worshipping liberal

Is there any type of idealogue that doesn't despise Christ?

How do I deal with these people?

It's one thing to love your neighbor and pray for his salvation, but what am I to do when that neighbor seemingly abhors the concepts of love and kindness altogether (or at least outside of his racial group)?

>>554698

Ortholarp detected.

Why can't you guys hold an ecumenical council? Who do you need to ratify it?

>>555342

You do what Jesus said: shake the dust from your feet as a warning against them, and don't cast your pearls before swine.

That said, we shouldn't abandon /pol/. We should keep up the evangelization and keep working against the inherent heresies within that board (christian identity, christian racism, Andersonism, etc.), but we must recognize that the entire board will never be won over.

And we must be careful not to be corrupted by them, to be turned away from Christian charity and love by their ideology of hatred.

>>554616

>>554545

Varg himself isn’t anti-race mixing. Pagans and atheists were Hillary Clinton biggest supporters

>>554690

>Actually we only hate Catholics. (t. /pol/ oldfriend)

>MUH /pol/ is a Christian board

And trump is a pro white.

>>554643

We have to realize that giving all these goods to other peoples is only hurting them in the long run by making them dependent and that bankrupting the future of our children is also not responsible or in accordance with 1 Timothy 5:8. In fact it's being a sell out to your nation, which nowhere in the word of God is that a good thing. You can freely help others (especially by giving the actual gospel to them) without subverting your own people through egalitarian and outright anti-national policies which are sold to you by Jews who will make you personally "look good" by signalling in exchange for joining their cause or even giving you benefits reaped from those of your own who you are subverting. That's being a rotten sell out, nothing more. House and feed refugees yourself before voting for this and pretending you did something other than take credit for forcing your own children at gunpoint to solve a supposed problem by pawning off their inheritance just so you can signal how moral and good you are. Anyone not utterly repulsed by progressives must be dead inside. Become part of a real final solution guys. Don't worry, you will know what to do and who to get behind what it comes. I'm sure of it.

>>555349

We're reaching echo levels that shouldn't be possible.

>>554548

"You would not enjoy Nietzsche, sir. He is fundamentally unsound."

>>555362

>We're reaching echo levels that shouldn't be possible.

Sorry bro, most /pol/acks cannot be saved. They are the swine which Jesus referred to, and your 'pearls' is orthodoxy. By casting your orthodoxy before these pigs, you risk them tossing and turning it to pieces and maybe even you as well (i.e. you join them as a heretic).

You cannot reconcile irrational hatred and bad faith with Christianity. And anyone can see that /pol/ simply does not argue in good faith, they do not have any concept of charity, and are consumed by a demon of anger.

These people must be consigned to the devil.

>>555368

dat beam

>>555368

>These people must be consigned to the devil.

They are my people. I have no choice, it's time to defend them within and without from evil.

/pol/ here

>skin worshipers

No one is "worshiping" skin, and this is also retarded because race isn't skin deep.

Why should I not choose my own people over others? Why should I love my enemy? Why should I not want nations to be ruled by the people that created them?

How do you reconcile nationalism and Christianity? How do you reconcile the fact that no matter what the correct interpretation of the word of God is, people tend to take the most universalist, anti racist, egalitarian, pacifist interpretation of it, and those things are completely contrary to nature on one hand, as well as not being pragmatic for the current situation on the other.

I want to believe, I really do.

>>555776

>How do you reconcile nationalism and Christianity?

By realizing where nationalism came from.

>people tend to take the most universalist, anti racist, egalitarian, pacifist interpretation of it

They are dancing in the palm of someone other than God. Whether they can still see the light at this point is something that varies.

>Why should I love my enemy?

Also for this, it's strictly your enemy. Like someone who tries to disrespect you or who attacked you or harmed you out of anger towards you, or something like that. Not the same thing as enemy of the people or God's enemies who are just attacking and hurting people randomly. They need to be stopped by a system of justice and it's actually not right to forgive that kind of thing because it's beyond you. So these dangerous migrants we have around here lately do need to be exposed for the criminals they are and made to leave, and I don't really care how it's done. After what's happened they deserve exactly what they get.

>>555365

>i'm sure hes an ancient shill of some sort.

I'm not sure you understand what shill means.

>>555788

This mentality doesn't work when you believe that a brown person moving in next door is "God's enemy". That is literally /pol/'s belief.

>>555873

I do know. Trump is a shill for Israel. They have existed throughout history, Martin Luther King was a shill for the Boule, Judas was a shill.

>>556122

He a good boy

>>555368

>These people must be consigned to the devil.

Fair enough. If that is what it takes to stop the madness, degeneracy, and evil in this world, so be it. I would take an eternity in hell over one day in heaven -if doing so meant an end to evil. If that's God's will then so be it.

And my friend, I do not believe you have had the misfortune of experiencing true evil. You may have toyed with various sins of the flesh, but you have not witnessed the truly grotesque acts of evil. There is hatred within me, that is True. And it burns for the things I have seen, I have experienced, and I have done. A priest may absolve me of my sins everyday until I drop, but that debt is not payed no matter how many words are uttered in my defense, not until I kill the very same evil I wrought into this world. God may forgive me, but I cannot forgive myself.

>>555776

This.

>>554541

>More on /pol/ need to accept Christ

Why?

Serious question. Why?

As a denizen of /pol/, my deepest desire is the end of Jewish domination of my society and securing the existence of my race.

How does worshiping a dead Jew help accomplish this? If it does, I am all ears.

>>565915

>dead

Ok skin worshiper.

>>565935

Got any evidence that he's alive?

>>565915

Read Jesus in the Talmud. Christ makes them kvetch harder than Hitler or denying the holocaust. Start with just realizing the name is a weapon and the other pieces may fall into place on their own.

>>565999

I don't doubt it. The reason they're called Kikes is because they can't even bring themselves to draw an "X" on an immigration form and Kike is the Hebrew word for circle, which they would draw instead of the "X"

However there are two problems.

1. The Jews hate White children FAR more than they hate Christianity. The ADL never attacks Christians in non-White countries. If the ADL just hated Christians, they'd be in Africa screaming at African children or in Mexico screaming their inhuman hatred at Mexican Catholic children.

But they don't. They exclusively attack White Christians.

They hate our race far more than they hate any faith.

But the biggest issue here is, while I agree with you that Jews hate Christianity and they hate Jesus, indeed they hate everything that is not pure Jewish, that was not OP's point. OP wanted us to convert to his religion.

Um… why? I'm sure we agree that the Jewish domination of our countries is bad. We agree that degeneracy is bad for any society and feminism is destructive and that the family unit is the bedrock for a stable, healthy society. But /pol/ already believes these things. So what does accepting OP's religion gain us?

Even if I threw my logic out the window and just believed whatever some priest told me to believe unquestingly, the mass media corporations would still all be owned by Jews, the Israeli lobby would still be the most powerful lobby in the country, Africa woudl still be pouring into Europe despite up to 80% of nindigeneous Europeans opposing this ethnic replacement, and our culture will continue to be deconstructed and trampled on by freaks and degenerates triumphantly proclaiming the death of Western Civilization.

I'm not opposed to Christianity. But I don't see any benefit in pretending to be a Christian.

Also, most Christians tell me that they support more race mixing and more money to Israel because of their "Christian values"

And every major evangelical leader is a traitor and in many cases a hypocrite. Many are pedophiles and homosexuals. So forgive me if I'm not eager to jump on board the Christian bandwagon.

>>554690

>To accept Christ they must first reject the Pope.

Kek. I wish they accepted the pope.

>Actually we only hate Catholics. (t. /pol/ oldfriend)

Wish this was the case too, oldfriend. There was a time when /pol/ had a good percentage of Christians on it. I'm sure this is still the case among oldfags like us, sadly not today.

>>554545

>#1 Christianity doesn't explicitly deny racemixing and Christians are too welcoming of foreigners

Paganism doesn't either. However, Paganism says explicitly to take and assimilate all lost foreigners through the "Give me your tired and your weary" speech. Most modern Christian sects do not specifically preach against race-mixing, however the Bible itself does via Ezra 9:2 and Ezra 9:12. Modern Christians being welcoming of invaders is more of a sinful person problem than a religion problem.

>#2 Jewish apostles + God is a Jew + God nailed to a cross = shameful to them

This is their weakest argument but the most devout pagans spam it like crazy. The modern jews are the Pharisees of Jesus' time, not to be confused with the jews who converted to Christianity and are very bleached by now (if the jews of that time weren't light featured to begin with).

A cross is hardly shameful compared to Odin's semen guzzling.

>#3 they are still enslaved by certain vices, sexual lust, tranny fetishes, violence fetishes, deathsquad fetishes, worship of blood and soil, genetic worship

When it gets to the bottom of it, this is the only thing holding most people back from converting. No matter how much logic you present them with they're simply too afraid to convert out of shame for their own degeneracy. The best way to handle this is to remind them it is only the action that is wrong, not the person, and they aren't going to hell just because they have a few wires crossed.

>#4 they think Christianity destroyed European potential and created weak men and basically regurgitate what Nietzsche taught them

Christian soldiers BTFOd mudhut tier pagans, and kept Islam out of Europe until atheism rose to power. Nuff said.

>>566009

>OP wanted us to convert to his religion. Um… why?

Because it's true, and it's the only true religion. Your belief in God doesn't affect His existence, but on the other hand your belief in him will save your soul. Christianity is of fundamental importance to all living humans.

>Even if I threw my logic out the window

Careful, that leads to protestautism.

>even if I start believing the truth, nothing changes

If everybody were a fervent faithful we wouldn't even have heard of this problem. This is a fact.

>Also, most Christians tell me that they support more race mixing and more money to Israel because of their "Christian values"

That's Scofield's fault for beginning it and gullible people's fault for believing it. It's not dogma and will never be.

>>565915

faggot

>>566043

But seriously, Christ is more important than that. If you're only thinking about Christianity for utilitarian effects you're doing it wrong.

>>566045

>If you're only thinking about Christianity for utilitarian effects you're doing it wrong.

And even then it's still good. Kept Europe white until gaytheism came.

>>566051

>12 Now if Christ is preached as raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ has not been raised;[a] 14 if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain and your faith is in vain. 15 We are even found to be misrepresenting God, because we testified of God that he raised Christ, whom he did not raise if it is true that the dead are not raised. 16 For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised. 17 If Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile and you are still in your sins. 18 Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19 If for this life only we have hoped in Christ, we are of all men most to be pitied.

Look how their plans come to naught! The Senate agreed to DACA amnesty for a tax cut, and Trump will probably be indicted. They put their trust in princes, and got nothing.

There is one way to make the world better, and that is through the saving blood of Christ. If you puff up about your own works and righteousness, that's it, you're lost.

>>554541

Well, /pol/ thinks that the liberal nu-churches represent Christianity as a whole, so start by debunking that

>>566040

>and it's the only true religion.

Sure buddy. Never heard that before.

Got any evidence?

>If everybody were a fervent faithful we wouldn't even have heard of this problem. This is a fact.

<If everybody were a communi$t we wouldn't even have heard of this problem. This is a fact.

<If everybody were a pagan we wouldn't even have heard of this problem. This is a fact.

Sure. But there's this thing called reality where not everyone accepts your religion.

I live in that.

>t's not dogma and will never be.

It certainly appears to be dogma. Ask any Christian if God loves race mixing. 9/10 the cuck will tell how how much Jesus loves race mixing and how unracist Jesus is.

>>566057

I have a prediction. (assuming most non-Christians on /pol/ aren't /leftypol/ false flags) If /pol/ becomes Christian again their plans will start coming to fruition again and they will be successful. If they don't the US becomes Brazil. Cap this and watch the magic happen.

>>566060

Hahahahaha! If Christians got what they wanted through th epower of prayer, why are gays buttfucking each other in the military? Why are Muslims pouring into Europe? Why is Christianity dying in the West?

Prayer doesn't work. Never has. Never will. Imaginary gods cannot answer prayer.

>>566063

Prayer without intent is worthless. I recommend you read CS Lewis.

>>566063

>why are gays buttfucking each other in the military?

Because God doesn't want to mind control fags

>>566059

>communism prevents hubris and self destructive tendencies

That's news to me

>baganism

News too

>It certainly appears to be dogma.

Sure. Is it? Nope.

>>566063

Mostly cause of WWII and living under the continuous threat of mass death during the cold war. Seems to make people nihilistic. Ask Jeremiah sometime, he'll back me up. But hey, for every Jeremiah, there's an Isaiah.

>>566077

Oh, and both of those prophets were pretty depressed about things too.

>>566068

Seriously? The Shrowd of Turin is your evidence?

What exactly does that prove?

>>566069

Do you support White Genocide?

>>566070

If Yahweh won't stop gays from buttfucking each other in the military, he won't stop Christian civilization from being destroyed either.

>>566075

Reread my post. It flew way over your head.

>>566077

Well, again, if Yahweh couldn't stop ww2, if he can't stop Muslims from overruning Western civilization and displacing our people in our own homeland, if he can't even stop Merkel from waging genocide against her own people, he is pretty useless.

>>566082

No, now go read some Feser

>>566082

That whole free will thing is a real pain in the butt, ain't it? Here's a dumb question: if you're so worried about Muslim immigrants, what have you done to evangelize them?

>>554541

>How do we successfully evangelize /pol/?

You already did, I'm here.

>>566087

So you agree that White children have a right to exist in White nations? You agree that European Peoples have a right to control our own destiny and to not be ethnically replaced in our own homelands by treacherous leaders working hand in hand with Zionist Jews who denounce European nationalism while simultaneously enforcing a Jewish supremacist state?

Having ancient Greek philosophers is not the reason why we oppose White genocide. We oppose White genocide because we believe that we have a right to exist.

>>566089

I don't want to evangilize them. I want them out of my country. I want my children to not have to grow up as a reviled and hated minority in their own country. I want White nations for White peoples.

If White Christians want to convert the population of Saudi Arabia to Christianity, I have no problem with that. But don't bring the Arabs here to do it. They have their own nations (or they would if Israel didn't drop chemical weapons on childrens' hospitals and steal their land) and they should stay in their lands.

>>566099

I have some doubts about the existence of human rights, but I agree that whites shouldn't die out, yes. Now go watch the Aristotelian Proof of God.

>>566099

The Gospel is the greatest gift you can give anyone, under any condition, without exception. This is at the core of the Christian faith. There is an affirmative duty to strangers, foreigners, and the ill. These are central tenets of the faith and are key to salvation. What's keeping you from putting your trust in Christ?

>>566082

>Yahweh

You speak English, say God

>>566100

Okay. Watching now.

Catholic eh? I've been yelled at by Protestants for years now. For some reason, Catholics have always seemed better adjusted. Of course, by Protestants I really mean Evangelicals.

>at 9 minutes in I'm thinking "is he going to try to bring up the old 'the universe needs a creator to have been made'"?

>11 min. Yup. He's going there.

Let's see if he can expand upon this really tired argument.

>at 18 min. Ah, I see where he's going with this. That's actually pretty clever.

Still though, upon his completion of "part one of three" he is on shaky ground. The coffee existing does not prove that a table exists.

But I don't even need to argue about tables in general. This man is a Catholic. Thus he believes in a very specific table. He believes that a cedar table with three legs and a glass top that can fly and shoot lazers exists. And he is trying to prove that this table exists based only on the fact that a cup of coffee exists.

do you understand my example? I am trying to keep it relevant to his own argument.

So as you can see, no. A cup of coffe does not prove that a specific table exists. In fact, if all we knew was that a cup of coffee existed, it wouldn't even prove that a table of any sort exists. The cup might be sitting on a tree stump, or a car, or being held by a man, or resting on a chair.

Back to Yahweh, the fact that existence exists does NOT prove that Yahweh or Allah or any god exists. It merely proves that existence exists. Do you understand what I just said?

>>566110

>What's keeping you from putting your trust in X?

The fact that I see no reason why I should.

>>566118

If you don't like me pointing out the fact that your god is Jewish in origin, get a different god. Yahweh is a Jewish name for the Jewish tribal deity that they wrote about in their Torah. That's not my fault.

>>566123

Look at the person of Christ, as testified to by the gospels and church. Why would you be here if you didn't see something there?

>>566123

>The fact that I see no reason why I should.

It's the law.

>>555776

>Why should I not choose my own people over others?

no one believes you shouldn't

>people tend to take the most universalist, anti racist, egalitarian, pacifist interpretation of it

this applies to any religion, including atheism, your post is just stupid

>>566063

>europe and the us start dropping religion generation by generation

>all of that happens

really makes you think

>>554541

reading some of the post made by /pol/, I've come to the conclusion that their arguments are pretty much:

>The bible is not white nationalist therefore it is bad

Our ancestors have been living in white christian societies for the last 2000 years, even Hitler wanted christian morals in his nation.

Other arguments like Jesus was a kike and some christians are liberals are just libtard tier arguemnts not worth getting into.

>>566158

Is that who I think it is? And looking back in approval? Me genoito!

>>566165

He did nothing wrong.

>>566169

Thanks. I don't hate other races, but I just want mines to survive.

/pol/ is a board constantly raided by everyone.

>>566123

>Yahweh is a Jewish name

Yeah, for God, like how Elohim means lord as was used to name God. God had many different names in the Bible that were variations of "God" and "Lord." You speak in English not Jewish.

My God being jewish in origin He actually predates the jews but whatever is fine, the reason why the jews are a problem now is that they follow the pharisees who rejected Christ.

>>566082

>What exactly does that prove?

Read the picture and find out

>Reread my post.

Are you saying that you don't want to convert because it's 3CYE and not everyone is Christian already?

>>566099

>I want my children to not have to grow up as a reviled and hated minority in their own country.

If you evangelize the browns well that won't be a problem

>>566158

>race

debunked scientificaly long ago

>>566169

https://www.rt.com/news/367579-pope-francis-epidemic-animosity/

https://thechristianwrong.wordpress.com/2011/10/03/nationalism-cloaked-as-religion/

pls go back to /pol/ with your crusader LARP

>>554541

Stop promoting the lie that Jesus was a jew for one, and stop ignoring the fact that the Jews hate Christ.

>>566123

>>566182

>>566118

>You speak English, say God

Er, is not God's name Yahweh? Adonai is the Hebrew word for Lord, not Yahweh or Elohim. El and Elohim mean God or Godhead respectively, right?

Why would want to convert idiots who think that murdering black people and jews en masse and promoting usury is the moral imperative of christians?

>>566402

Precisely because they are disillusioned with Christianity as a result of mystery cabals who are in league with the False Judeans who call themselves Jews (who are also their enemies.) They are deluded and not able to come to the knowledge of the truth that Jesus is Lord and that their evolutionistic spirituality and philosophies are derived from these enemies of God. It is our duty to evangelise and try to lead them to God. But if they are not open to the possibility that they are wrong, and are too concerned with their own pride of life, then perhaps God has hardened their hearts, even given them reprobate minds. Who can know for sure? All we can do is try.

>>566388

Jesus is literally a Jew, he descends from Judah by both genealogies. Stop trying to rewrite Christianity out of blind hatred for the infernal perfidious Pharisees and their offspring, they hate Jesus all the more for being their Messiah and rightful King.

>>566415

*He

>>566402

The early church grew in pagan Rome which was pretty bad. Paul persecuted Christians. Open the door to all.

>>566134

>Why would I be here?

There are thousands of reasons why I exist that have nothing to do with your religion.

>>566138

>It's the law.

No it isn't. There is no law stating that I must convert to your religion or anyone's. At least not yet.

And even if you somehow seized control of the government, and made it illegal to be any religion other than yours, I'd never be able to truly believe because your religion seems wrong to me.

>>566153

I agree with you. But that isn't evidence of Yahweh. It's evidence that lemmings will always have a religion. Yester year it was Christianity. But religion did not go away in 1970. It was replaced by another religion that I don't believe in. Cultural Marxism, politically correct think, liberalism.

>>566401

Yahweh is his personal name. Traditionally spelled "YHWH" and the "a" and "e" are conjecture based on the old Hebrew language.

>>566475

>jesus was not a jew

how delusional /pol/ can get? XD

>>566239

Race is very much real, scientifically.

>>566481

>scientifically

name one serious scientist who promotes this statement and how does he classify races

>>566482

>appeal to authority

You realise that different races have biological differences beyond skin colour, right?

>>566482

Just realised that you're a shill, I don't expect a very serious answer from you D&Cer

>>566485

>makes statement

>I ask for proof

>LOL ITS A FALLACY BRUH

what is a race and who promotes that system in AD2017? no serious scientist to my knowledge

>>566487

>shill

I just ask for a serious answer, you dumb /pol/tard

>>566482

You can determine someone's race by their DNA.

Nevermind the bell curve and countless other scientific studies that demonstrate the reality of race.

You cannot determine someone's religion by studying their DNA. You cannot determine someone's class. You cannot determine someone's political party. Race is far more real than any of these things.

Race is real. Race matters.

And White children have a right to exists.

>>566488

>science is only valid if reputable scientists support it publicly

You didn't ask for scientific proof, you asked for a contemporary scientific authority figure to validate the viewpoint of race. How about Richard Dawkins m80?

.>>566489

>shill

>I just ask for a serious answer, you dumb /pol/tard

Everything you've posted in the thread so far has been for the purpose of driving a wedge between /christian/ and /pol/ for no good Christian reason.

>>566492

>by their DNA

how?

>Nevermind the bell curve and countless other scientific studies that demonstrate the reality of race.

not an argument

>Race is real. Race matters.

said no respectable scientist in AD2017

>>566493

then show me proof mr hotshot

>>566496

>then show me proof mr hotshot

>If you don't show me the information, it doesn't exist.

Here you go anyway

http://ironbarkresources.com/defendingfreespeech/dfs05racescience.htm

It's time to start using internet search engines if you want some more of that my likely Phillipino Catholic fiend.

>>566501

>And I doubt you are so dumb that you don't know that you can determine someone's race by their DNA

if races are a thing then there is an easy way to determine someones race by a genetic test

>>566499

rushton was debunked years ago also since I'm not an antropologist and so arent you, I'd prefer to have an authority decide what is and what isn't true

Galatians 3:28

now please go back to /pol/, you wankers

>>566511

>there is neither male nor female

So God endorses transgenderism apparently.

That's not what that verse means and you know it. Don't be disingenuous, and don't use Scripture to try and justify your political stance.

>>566516

You misinterpret the verse just to fit it into your narrow nazi worldview. Most (if not all) churches denounce the concept of race and/or racism, do you share your race views with your priest? how does the Orthodox church feel about your hateful views?

>>566519

What hateful views?

>>566520

racism is hateful, also don't pretend as a resident of a /pol/ thread you arent a neonazi

>>566519

I can't understand how someone can rationalize understanding race and hating races to be the same concept.

>>566522

What racism? You're delusional.

>>566523

because the "science" of "race" is used to degrade and discriminate against "lesser" "races"

>>566524

then I apologize

>>566526

I accept. You know you can believe race exists and not hate people from other races.

>>566525

There's no such thing as "lesser races", only differences between races. I'm pretty sure God, omniscient and omnipotent as He is, would have designed us with the capability of adapting under difference circumstances.

>rushton was debunked years ago

>no proof of his own to support this claim

>expects the burden of proof to be on racialists because supposedly racialists are meant to prove for example that the fact negroids and caucasoids having different skull structures is proof that the races are different rather than not different

meant for:

>>566508

>>566532

>are not different rather than different*

>>566533

>>566532

Wait, got it right the first time, I should go to bed. Though I would reword part of it as:

>are meant to prove for example that the fact negroids and caucasoids having different skull structures is evidence that the races are different rather than not different

>>555345

>Why can't you guys hold an ecumenical council? Who do you need to ratify it?

>implying one is needed

the councils have been done for a LONG time. any new council is modernists

>>566508

>if races are a thing then there is an easy way to determine someones race by a genetic test

Um yeah. It is a thing, as you put it. And you can determine your race by DNA.

You can determine your sex too. That's because gender and race are real and these things matter.

But it's more than that. Different races have different skeletal structures and different brain shapes. Trying to force everyone together is unnatural and will ultimately lead to the destruction of our society. Ours in particular because this is only happening in White nations. Only White nations are having "diversity" forced upon us.

"Diversity" means less White people

Diversity is a code word for White genocide.

>>566477

>XD

>Catholic posting

>>>/reddit/

most of /pol/ is Christian

don't even both with taiwanese imitation /pol/ on this site - i mean the real /pol/ on 4chan

seriously i don't get the butthurt from you guys - the only explanation is if you've been dealing with the autists on 8ch /pol/

>>567067

4cuck is filled with fedoras now. I make a lot of pro-Christian posts and feel like the only one there because of it. There's too much reddit idiocy. Just give them the uncaused cause argument and they break out in tears because their pseudo-intellectualism is destroyed and they're proven to be the idiots they are. It's absolutely pathetic. Theres a reason the old philosophers proved the existence of God and the idiots in this degenerated society think they are God.

>>554541

Bump

>>554541

Whatever you do, please do it.

>>565915

Christianity is the only force keeping white birth rates positive. There is no other moral force encouraging women to reproduce or have large families. Not personally believing in Christ is one thing, and people can work on that, but shilling against Christianity altogether is the most retarded and short sighted thing about /pol/.

>>567067

>most of /pol/ is Christian

yeah and 99% of posters call themselves natsoc antisemites, they aren't Christian at all with all this vitriol

>>554616

>Hebrews =/= Pharisees. It helps to calmly explain that the Pharisees are evil and murdered Christ, and that the "Jews" of today are the Pharisees.

Pretty hard to argue this though when these days the Vatican is explicitly denying substitution theory and calling Jews "our elder brothers."

>>567850

This is what bothers me most about /pol/. Christianity is the greatest thing in the world for Whites.

>>567852

We literally worship the greatest antisemite who ever lived. Antisemitism might not make one necessarily a Christian (obviously, look at /pol/), but philosemitism is the epitome of anti-Christ.

>>567825

What is that reply talking about and implying? I feel like the joke flew over my head.

>>567856

Someone on /pol/ asked for a good book to redpill them on jews. First reply was "the Bible." It was well received.

>>567859

I mean the "pacifist to violence" remark.

>>567864

I see. Not sure. Maybe the cleansing of the Temple of money-changers. My point was that response to "the Bible" as an answer was not negative. It usually is.

Bump

>>554548

>>554545

>what Nietzsche taught them

Nietzche said that "God is dead and people killed him" and that's a really bad thing, while nihilism is bad and you need to find your own goal

That's beyond the point that "self realization" is a secular attempt at replacing salvation.

>>554628

>PS, is a Catholic obligated to support mass immigration?

is that a serious question?

All the """refugees""" want is more comfortable life.

Funny, after my wife died i was left with an apartment and a neighbor who lives with his wife and kid in a 1 room apartment asks if he can swap with me because "i don't need three rooms"

He's not homeless, or impoverished, he just wants more convenience and comfort

Why should it be my moral duty to indulge others in pleasure at my own expense?

>>555365

> it's just very pacifist

t. King James shill

Try versions written by someone who's not functionally illiterate.

>Kang of scotland

>Can't tell between "to kill" and "to murder"

Christians are supposed to be vigilant, not pacifist.

Or maybe God's Son was working against Father's will when chasing out (((merchants))) from the Temple?

>>568761

Do you eve wonder why his name is Luc Picard, instead of Luke Picard?

>>566401

Yahweh is one of His many names, not the only one. His English name is God.

>>566401

You don't seem to get it, He doesn't have names like odin or zeus, He has various names which tend to mean things like "I am" "God" "Lord" etc. Elohim for example meaning "God"

These are names given to Him by the people.

>>568825

>He doesn't have names like odin or zeus

lol are you for real? ZEUS. DEUS. They literally come from the same PIE root. There's an equivalent in Sanskrit too.

>>568818

I bet it is "Luke" and Picard just spells it "Luc" because he's a pretentious bastard.

>>566213

But that's the thing. Hitler killed many Christians and denounced the Pope many times. Before you say

>muh pope

understand that Vatican II is what destoryed the Church. Traditional Catholicism is the way to go. My point is this, Hitler denounced the Pope many times and hated him. His whole quotes about Christianity were just for public image. If you read Padre Pio's biography, Padre Pio describes how Hitler was an anti Christian. I was somewhat being swayed into becoming a NatSoc or at adopting some of those ideals, but after I read Padre Pio's take on Hitler, I was dissuaded.

>>555244

In pic related it says that an unfolded cube is a cross. ????????

>>554541

Go to 4/pol/ - they're much more receptive to Christianity and already have a small community there. With some persistence, the Christian influence on 4/pol/ could be greatly increased.

Christmas is the right time for it.

"Peace on earth, and mercy mild, God and sinners reconciled."

>>566213

>>568862

Natsocs are spiritually opposed to Christ. Aryan worship is demonic. They are steeped in the occult. LARPaganism is just the surface of their autism.

The shills that spam the sun wheel and other "aryan" garbage know exactly what they are doing. Most of them are long time posters from /fringe/ and have always had an active mission to serve Satan. I'm not even joking.

>>569945

>>>>/pol/11011083

Anon, I hate to break it to you, but that post was fucking retarded

>>569945

There is only one true /pol/ and that's not on Infinity. ;)

>>555786

>there are still people who believe that Jesus is a ripoff of Horus..

Whenever I'm on /x/ just to read what these people come up with, they always compare Jesus to Horus. How can I refute this claim? The information they give does show that there are some similarities between them.

>>569964

I've had many people bring up this comparison while I've had debates on 4/pol/ - I just send them vid related and it basically shuts them down.

>>570544

You're a champ m8

>>569964

>>566019

>Ezra 9:2 and Ezra 9:12

The issue here was paganism and those passages apply to jews; are you a jew? Stop abusing Scripture.

1 Corinthians 7:39

>>554541

>>570921

>>570593

>>570515

>>570544

Thanks guys. On another note, for the whole thread, what do you think of the age of Aquarius? Is it mentioned at all in the Bible? I thought maybe we could use this idea in converting /pol/ somehow.

>>571026

I meant to add that we could use it to convert /pol/ by pointing out how the Age of Aquarius is an age of wickedness, rather than intellect and knowledge.

>>571026

>age of Aquarius

Who is this Aquarius and where is he in the bible?

>>571047

I phrased it wrongly. I mean to say that the Age of Aquarius is seen as an age that brings "enlightenment" or knowledge, things like that. While on the contrary, it is actually an age that ushers in evil. Does the Bible mention something like this?

>>555244

>Cubeposting

>>571026

It's pseudo gnostic trash meme. There are seven ages of world (we live in sixth) and seven ages of church (we live in fifth). They have nothing to do with sings of zodiac.

>>571026

The Bible itself talks of an age of wickedness and a great fallling away as the end draws nigh. I think it's best just to talk about that instead of bringing up something that is even harder to explain than the End Times.

theres a huge anti Christian thread right now