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>>552773

Your self-esteem is hitting hard isn't not, Mr.Anderson.

>>552773

A heresiarch in our present time

>>552780

40,000 years ahead of schedule?

Wrong about Catholicism, reprobate theology, KJV-only (and KJV literally being God). Right about basically everything else.

I believe he's a legit man of God, who like all of us, can be wrong about certain things.

>>552792

>Steven Anderson says "saved people sin"

>you post this to show how bad he is

So are you saying you don't sin or are you saying you're unsaved? If you're saying you don't sin, you're a prideful liar. If you're saying you're not saved, I don't know why you're commenting on Christian topics

I pity him.

>>552825

Being saved is not a licence to sin.

>>552773

>>552834

no one says it is.

a driver's license isn't a license to run over squirrels with your car, but it is going to happen, because squirrels are retarded.

Nestorius was more orthodox

Utterly devoid of any true agape. Does anyone have that clip of James White talking about him saying that gay people should kill themselves?

>>552845

>lol I was just pretending to be retarded

He's autistic and in his video on Orthodoxy showed how ignorant he was on the subject. Like when he was talking about theosis, he thought that "humans becoming gods". meant that we literally become part of the trinity and called this "pantheistic trash" and yelled "I dont want to know anything about it". Also how he mentions Mary makes me Angry too, I suppose.

Though, of course, I put him above any non-Christian. And sometimes he'd doing a good job at exposing false religions.

>>552914

>he thought that "humans becoming gods"

He didn't say that. He said something like they believe they become part of God, not a seperate god like mormons believe.

>>552838

i lol'd

>>552926

That's not exactly what he said. His choice of metaphor, in which he blames it on the squirrels - was unfortunate, but I think he was just trying to be humorous.

I would have explained it very simply:

a "license" is PERMISSION TO DO SOMETHING which would otherwise be unlawful. Our Salvation is NOT a "license" to sin; we are still not "allowed" to sin, but God knows us better than we know ourselves, and He knows we're GOING TO sin - and so His PERFECT Grace covers us PERFECTLY.

Foolish thought IS A SIN. Failing to always Pray IS A SIN.

YOUR. NATURE. IS. SIN.

So…. please tell us all about how you stay "sinless." Tell us how YOU said, "Thanx for the Salvation, Jesus! I'll take it from here…."

a real memer, but I would get a beer with him

I pray that God softens his heart, but yeah he’s right about fags

>>552934

> but I would get a beer with him

lol no you wouldn't. he's a teetotaler

>>552918

. . . by which he has granted to us his precious and very great promises, that through these you may escape from the corruption that is in the world because of passion, and become partakers of the divine nature.

>>552940

Christians are allowed to drink 1 beer atleast though

A man that fervently loves God, but is far off base with some of his teachings. Nevertheless, when he's not talking about gays, other denominations, or Sola Scriptura, I think he generally does more good than bad.

>>552932

>>552926

Moreover, to say we have a "license" to sin would make sin no longer sin, as a license is permission.

It seems that the so-called "Free Grace"position (otherwise known as "the simple Gospel of Jesus Christ") is unpopular on /christian/, and that's an utter shame. It really is the only position which is thoroughly coherent and perfectly in line with ALL of Scripture - but, people are by nature prideful and self-centered, and so they lie and scheme and play word games and do whatever they have to in order to shoehorn one's own works into Salvation - as if you could possibly "improve" on the Perfect, finished work of Jesus Christ.

>>552918

Yes, I mentioned that and he furthermore shows his ignorance to the concept of communion. Yes, we become partakers in divine nature, but we will always be independent, created beings and of course not become part of Him, hence "gods" (as we are also called in psalms 82:6 and John 10:34) and not "God".

>>552942

>Christians are allowed to drink 1 beer atleast though

Anderson would definitely disagree on that.

(Not saying that I disagree with you - but HE certainly would)

>>552904

How much more proof would you want than him contradicting himself multiple times of the same topic on video?

I admire his passion, even with his flaws.

>>552792

that video is supposed to be a rebuke of anderson but it only makes me like him more lmao

PASTOR ANDERSEN YOU SAY

>>552975

Besides be didn't you fucking papist. I know your catholic so your used to people lying to you allyhe time but most people don't. Most people wouldn't lie about believing on Jesus.

>>553019

>One time in the video he says he knows people who are/were saved

>Other times he says you can never know if people are really saved or not

Sounds like lying though.

>I know your catholic so your used to people lying to you allyhe time but most people don't

Ohhh edgy.

>>552975

>every time you contradict yourself or change your views because of a different expected outcome it means you are a liar

This is your brain on popecucking folks

>>552780

He is one of many that preach in his style and of his belief. How is he the heresiarch? He is not the head of anything other than his own church. Baptist have been around a long time at least long before this one man and will be after him.

>>553035

He fired one of his deacons for denying the Trinity for Modalism, now what has he misspoken regarding the Trinity?

>>552773

My honest thoughts are that this entire board would be at a loss without him. Hate, love, or merely entertained by him, he is a personality that gives this board flavor.

About him personally, he does not preach to be accepted by the masses. He preaches to his convictions above compromise to cultural pressures, which agree or disagree with the topic, is an example that would benefit Christians to actually follow in my opinion.

To post just about every public speech, lecture, or interview over a decade is laudable as it opens up to being basically guaranteed to being able to have contradiction clipped together and being attacked for items today that might have been recorded years ago.

I do not think anyone can honesty question his faith, as he worked almost a decade before he gained enough members of a church to become a full time pastor. He even mentioned how a couple of years his total church went down. The entire time preaching hard on very unpopular beliefs at least in the modern culture. Public scrutiny, official condemnation, financial troubles, labeled as a hate criminal by the ADL, and being banned by foreign state governmental bodies has not damped his belief or made him stop his ministry. He is convicted in his faith, irregardless if people view him following the faith in a problematic manner.

>>553103

>He fired one of his deacons for denying the Trinity for Modalism, now what has he misspoken regarding the Trinity?

Sometimes it sounds like he's advocating partialism. As I said, he likely misspoke. The Trinity is confusing to explain for most people.

>>552773

Pros:

-Genuine zeal and belief in the Bible and Jesus Christ

-Encourages Bible reading and offers a format for people to get interested in Christianity, even those who are proud edgy trolls

-Used to interact with all kinds of people due to "soulwinning", which makes it easier for him to perceive how people on the other side of the fence think

-Creates an atmosphere where the Bible is really The Serious Business of your life, that is specifically geared up for people raised in atheistic XXI and late XX century (this one is good or bad depending on angle)

Cons:

-Questionable Theology, ("reprobates" applied to humans, saved forever and ever just by saying one prayer, etc.)

-Too much addicted on attention, needs sensationalism to thrive

-Attacks on Catholicism and Orthodoxy a tad picking on clichés of previous anti-clerical movements, most of his understanding of how present day members of such groups think is mostly his guessing.

-Heresies such as believing Bible is the Literal direct word of God, or content of Bible is God himself. Sure faith is good but let's calm down a bit.

Well despite openly defending heresies such as idolatering the bible and reprobacies, he comes off with such a zeal that gives a honest whiff of optimism.

And has no problems in attacking the enemies of the faith in the most brutal way in a time where the minimal counterstrike is a seen as a controversy.

But defends a few heresies. I don't know, I'd say give him some room to self improve I guess.

He could start by easing up on caths and orthodox and focusing on the real enemies, and focus on influenced sources of luciferianism, satanism and nihilism.

>>552773

I want to punch him. Very hard. Many times.

>>553038

When he says someone else is saved, he means they're saved as far as he knows. Do you have a condition?

>>553192

please be patient, he has autism

>>553192

One time he says you can know who is saved, then he says you can never know for sure.

Which one is it?

>>553195

Do you mean when he says YOU can know YOU are saved? Because that's what OSAS is. It only applies to yourself. Everyone else, it's just as far as you know.

>>553100

He spreads all manner of heretical doctrine, including some fairly indefensible shit that he pulled out of his ass from misreading the Bible, how is he not a heresiarch? Even heresiarch is fairly soft for someone who instructed unrepentant sinners to doom themselves to eternal damnation and who admits he considers himself a prophet in some regard.

>>553168

O

>>552773

The last stand of explicit and unapologetic masculinity in the West.

>>553170

t. fag enabler

>>553212

So you may want to go any look at the word "heresiarch."

You did not address anything I posted. He is a self proclaimed IFB preacher. He teaches what many of the denomination belief.

So either you need to show pure Anderson-only teachings, or to show that he holds himself above others and has a denomination unto himself. Otherwise you are just using a big word that has no meaning in context.

He is not a Luther, Joseph Smith, or someone who is leading a 'new' sect. Otherwise heresiarch means nothing other than is every single preacher that is considered in heresy by someone, which on this board would be every single christian.

>>553200

He said he knew his parents were saved, and he knew other people who were saved.

Then again he denies this after a few clips.

>>553256

Maybe because most people don't always lie you retard

>>553203

>>553168

Indeed.

>>553252

Heresiarch

noun

The founder of a heresy or the leader of a heretical sect.

Please tell me how the kooky shit he comes up with isn’t heretical or that his own little sect centered on him isn’t mired in heresy.

is it true that he hates me

>>553256

>He said he knew his parents were saved,

As far as he knew.

>>553258

>Calls me retard

>His response makes no sense whatsoever

>>552792

what are catholicucks trying to prove with this?

>>553271

So not to just again repeat the last two post, I am sorry to inform you that despite if you dislike him, his teachings, and his methods. Bible-believing-Christians / Baptist / Fundamentalist are not a total number of Anderson and the couple of churches he has helped seed across the USA. His beliefs, ideals, and doctrines have been around for centuries, will be long after him, and numbers of adheres to these categorizations number in the millions internationally. The entire chain of posts have been to justify the one word Heresiarch, after you even posted the definition if you can not see how it does not fit to Anderson, well nothing will change your conviction as even the use of language can not be agreed to.

>>553400

>with someone you know that is for sure saved?

Fix'd.

>>553317

Yes, people have been in heresy for centuries, it’s tragic. If you don’t see how some blowhard brainlet "pastor" with no understanding of theology telling his flock things like the KJV is literally God doesn’t make him a heresiarch, you’re the retard, no matter how hilarious your desperate emotional pleas are.

>>553405

>1 Cor 1:18 / 1 Cor 15:2 / 2 Cor 2:15

is there an "are being saved" in scripture where the subject isn't plural?

even if "are being saved" is correct and "are saved" is an incorrect translation, couldn't it still be referring to a one time event, just happening to different people?

example:

>those of us who are being shot in this war are annoyed.

>those of us who are shot in this war are annoyed.

same thing.

vs

>i am killed.

>i am being killed.

totally different.

(i'm assuming the context the priest is bringing that up in has to do with whether or not salvation is a one time thing, and not whether or not the KJV sucks, i watched the video but it was a year ago.)

also: that barnabas guy is a dick

>>553419

For context, Pastor Anderson explicitly claimed that the verb in question was in the past participle to smugly deride a quotation that correctly rendered it with the present participle. As you can see, his response to his error being reasonably politely pointed out was to dismiss it offhand and arrogantly sneer at Fr. Whiteford. Fr. Powell's comment was absolutely on the money.

>>553405

Those comments are gold. There's a Serbian autist claiming Jesus was half-serb because God is a Serb. And that Heaven is Serbia.

>>553317

I'm not sure they have a winning strategy here. They are currently trying for the "Anderson is the first person to ever say this" line, but in the process they are promoting his name to people who may never have heard of him and will want to decide the issue for themselves once they hear about it.