/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

>How and when exactly did "Jew" become synonymous with "Hebrew" and "Israelite"?

Around time when out of 12 tribes one stood alone with only glimpses of others

>I literally just heard someone call Abraham a Jew.

That is but stupid, for he was forefather of Jude

He is Hebrew thought, Eber was his ancestor

>For that matter, why is Hebraism conflated with Judaism?

For only three religion can be traced to line of Eber but one of them is more bound to Christ and other is of illegitimate line of Ishmael

>And why are Judeans and Jews conflated?

Jew, Middle English: from Old French juiu, via Latin from Greek Ioudaios, via Aramaic from Hebrew yĕhūḏī, from yĕhūḏāh ‘Judah’

>>544256

>Judah was the first jew

So his parents were not the same race as him?

>>544273

Was Adam Sethite? Was Enoch Noahite?

>>544282

Adam didn't have parents.

Were Cain and Abel different races than Adam and Eve?

>Around time when out of 12 tribes one stood alone with only glimpses of others

Levites are still around. So are Samaritans. Other groups claim descent from various tribes.

>>544273

"Jew" literally means "of Judah" as in "descendant of Judah."

We're reckoning tribal affiliation here, not race. Tribes aren't reckoned by vaguely defined genetic similarity. They're reckoned by descent.

Conflating the idea of a tribe with the modern (18th century) idea of a race isn't productive.

>>544283

You're retroactively applying patrilineal titles first established by a son to his father, grandfathers, and great-grandfathers.

Seth, the son of Adam, was an Adamite. Adam was not a Sethite. See how that works?

>>544256

Muslims say he was Muslim. Wrap your head around that.

>>544290

>tribal affiliation

that's nice, but they were the same race as their fathers.

>Tribes aren't reckoned by biology and heredity

right, their social constructs, like sport teams

>>544298

muslim means a monotheist who submits to the One God, it's not about tribe or race

>>544300

Muslims submit to Satan.

>>544300

>muslim means a monotheist who submits to the One God, it's not about tribe or race

Uhm, yes it is. There is, in theory, one muslim nation/tribe/race ('ummah)

also this >>544301

>>544303

Islam in theory is as universal as Christianity is. In fact, one of their retarded doctrines is that every baby in the world is born a Muslim before they are deceived by their parents. The Ummah is really just the Muslim equivalent of the invisible church, and considering after the Meccans threw Mahound out he raised a religious brigand army to rape and pillage his way into a personal earthly kingdom, he had no reason to be picky at all as to who could join his cult.

>>544299

That's nice. The only person talking about race in this threat is you.

>>544256

>How and when exactly did "Jew" become synonymous with "Hebrew" and "Israelite"?

Synonymous? In English, these words and definitions became muddled sometime after John Dee infiltrated the English royal court. He was a Kabbalist and he likely originated the whole anglo-jew meme that has led to the state of Israel. But the word Hebrew was never actually synonymous with modern-day Jewry except for people subverted by the synagogue of Satan.

>For that matter, why is Hebraism conflated with Judaism?

Because the Pharisees established their own religion sometime after the First century and erroneously called it Judaism. Nowadays many people have been deceived to think it's the successor of the law and prophets.

>>544283

Adamites were all of the same race. As it says of Noah, he was "perfect in his generations." Meaning his parents weren't part of the problem of those days.

>>544298

Well, he WAS the father of Ishmael, and the Arabs are the modern day Ishmaelites

>>544301

I can always count on a baptist to never mince words.

>>544727

>I can always count on a baptist to never mince words.

"the bible is literally God!" - Steven "Baptist Pope" Anderson

ok.