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f25c10 No.539705

Hey fellow Catholics, can you explain why places like the Philippines are strict in enforcing penitence for sin, while other countries are more lax in enforcement like the US, where I'm from?

I went to confession last Saturday and my priest said for God to forgive me for watching the films that I do. I didn't even confess that specific sin but it was true that I had watched The Mountain Between Us in theaters with my mom. Anyways, I wasn't even aware that it was a sin because I received a secular education. I'm still trying to learn about what are some sins that I should avoid, and that I'm wondering why penitence is lax for me but harsh for others, and if I would have to have harsh penitence if I learned more about the faith and I committed sins. Is harsh penitence reserved for grave sins?

3c9ccb No.539710

>>539705

I think you're confusing penitence with penance. To answer your question: Predicts in the west are generally more liberal.


f25c10 No.539713

>>539710

You mean dioceses?


f25c10 No.539715

>>539710

But I'm wondering if I should be suscepted to conservative or liberal dioceses. Do conservative dioceses care about ignorance of a sin for penitence?

Also, what's the difference between penance and penitence?


f25c10 No.539723

>>539715

Thinking further, I imagine that penitence should be voluntary so that we beat the devil out of ourselves. When Christ was crucified, he suffered penitence for sins he did not commit, while Jews rejoiced and tried to kill off creation like Lucifer wanted. For us repentant souls, we must suffer the same type of penitence that Christ suffered to be forgiven and to be accepted into heaven. I guess liberal dioceses expect that God will deliver penitence for us.


3c9ccb No.539725

>>539710

>>539713

>>539715

*Priests not Predicts.


3c9ccb No.539727

>>539723

Penitence is feeling sorrow and remorse for your sins. Penance is self inflicted punishment for your sins.


f25c10 No.539728

>>539723

I actually mean by God delivering penitence to us in liberal dioceses that we pray the rosary and God will put obstacles in our path to learn from. We do penitence because we must teach our souls to recognize the pain we cause others. Until all of Lucifer's sins are repented by society, I imagine he won't be forgiven and reaccepted into heaven. I know the Bible says he is going to be sent to the pit of hell after 1000 years of peace, but I heard from my parish's charismatic group that the 1000 years of peace after Christ's return will be for the Antichrist to fully decide wether to become repentant, which I pray happens so that all of creation will be beautiful.

>>539725

Okay, thanks for clearing that up.


3c9ccb No.539729

>>539728

>but I heard from my parish's charismatic group

Be weary of 'charamatics'


f25c10 No.539731

>>539728

It's why politically I'm inclined to be like an anarchist letting God sort everything out, with us seeing temptation in all legal things, but to repent and avoid them willingly.


1fc66e No.539753

I am not trying to poke fun, but how did watching "The Mountain Between Us" lead you into sin? Genuinely curious


f25c10 No.540127

>>539753

No, I don't think it did. I'm just thinking that it promoted infidelity, and that was it's biggest flaw. The couple in the movie would've done good to stay in their area and wait out the storm.


f25c10 No.540128

>>539753

But watching the film was the sin itself. I take it that I should from now on only watch films approved by the Catholic Church.


594f2d No.540340

>>540128

wat is this a troll


79fa75 No.540689

>>540340

No, I'm serious. I wasn't aware that watching films like this was sinful until my priest told me so. So I'm going to try avoiding them and advising all of you against watching films that your local parish doesn't approve of.


79fa75 No.540690

>>540689

Make sure as well that you get permission to watch films before you do. You can't unsee a film.


5c281d No.540698

>>540690

>You can't unsee a film.

Sort of. You tend to forget a film on a long enough timeline. It just sort of fades from memory.


79fa75 No.540752

>>540698

I guess after you do penance God will remove bad things from your memory, and past as well. I just hope the generational curses from the old testament go away as well with enough penance.


5c281d No.540758

>>540752

Deuteronomy 24:16

Ezekiel 18:19-20

2 Corinthians 5:17

There are no generational curses.


9d7680 No.540765

>>540758

Original Sin.


5c281d No.540768

>>540765

That's not quite the same thing as generational curses. Like, if your dad sins, that's not your sin. OS is a whole different thing.


79fa75 No.540770

>>540765

Yes, original sin is descending through generations because of Lucifer's war with God and the archangel Michael, which devastated the landscape outside Eden, and I take it that the forbidden fruit was seeded outside of Eden.


79fa75 No.540781

>>540758

Thank you very much for the readings. I hope you did learn something from me as well.


8c0e48 No.540788

>>540770

>>540765

(1) God was gracious to warn Adam about sin and its consequences. God told Adam not to eat of the fruit of the forbidden tree. He told him that if he did, he would die (Genesis 2:15-17).

(2) When Adam sinned, God did not immediately put Adam to death, as his sin deserved. Instead, God sought Adam out, and exposed his sin (Genesis 3:8-13). God also indicated the consequences Adam and his wife would experience because of their sin (Genesis 3:8-19).

(3) God promised to provide a cure for sin and death (Genesis 3:15). He also provided Adam and Eve with coverings (3:21).

(4) God graciously removed Adam and Eve from the garden, and prevented them from returning to it. He kept them from eating of the tree of life, lest they live forever in their sin (3:22-24).

(5) God was gracious to turn the curse into the cure. Death kept Adam and Eve from living forever as condemned sinners. It was death (the death of Jesus Christ on the cross of Calvary) that ultimately and permanently defeated Satan, sin, and death – because our Lord died in the sinner's place, and then rose from the dead. Even the woman's pain in childbearing was gracious, because it was through this painful process that the Messiah would someday come into the world to save sinners.

(6) God graciously gave Adam and Eve another son – Seth – after Cain killed Abel (4:25-26). It was after the birth of Seth that people began to worship the Lord (4:26). Did this include Adam? I am inclined to think so.

All of this suggests that Adam and Eve did seek God's forgiveness, and receive it. The Bible places the emphasis on Adam's sin (and not on his repentance and forgiveness) because it was through Adam's sin that all mankind was corrupted and brought under the same sentence of death (Romans 5:12-21). Adam turns our attention toward the sin of the human race. Jesus Christ turns our attention to life and righteousness.


05b3c3 No.540791

>>540765

Are you sure? Find me the bible verse that says that original sin is real (not going to accept one that says humans are sinners, because literally every human has sinned without original sin). Right now for me, the 'no generational curses' is a better argument.


79fa75 No.540792

Further, to avoid original sin, I'm seriously considering becoming a minister in the Catholic faith so that I abstain from sexual behavior and avoid passing original sin to a descendant. Just because we can sin and be forgiven doesn't mean we should. Although I have a succubus tormenting me at times and I pray that I can avoid temptation.


8fd038 No.540808

>>540792

>minister

You mean Priest?

>don't want to pass on original sin

Not a good reason not to have kids.


05b3c3 No.540811

>>540808

Not that you need to have kids. Remember 1 Corinthians 7 where Paul says that celibacy is fine (not required by any means tho)


5bdecf No.540817

Why do you guys do this? Out of everything catholics do this has to be the weirdist.




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