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dd8f90 No.538100

I recently had an argument with someone on the topic of Jews

>implying that modern Jews are even the legitimate descendants of the original Israelites

This person essentially believes that God places "Jews" above the Gentiles, even after the purpose of God's People was fulfilled by Jesus' incarnation.

They believe that God merely wants to save the Jews, and - for some reason that I can't comprehend - Gentiles are included in salvation through Christ for some reason.

How does one achieve mental gymnastics on this level, and how can I prove to this person that they're wrong?

TL;DR- I'm looking for scripture putting Jews onto the same level of Gentiles in every way possible other than Galatians 3:28

6bc9cd No.538101

1. Jews ARE the legitimate descendants of the original Israelites. Supported by Non-Jewish history, Jewish history and decades of genetic research.

2. There is no need to "prove" G-d does not place Jews above Gentiles because this notion is not found in Judaism nor Jewish Scripture.


8673e7 No.538103

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Because their church traditions has put that teaching into full practice by reading Bible verses out of context. Enforced by good speakers who tickle their ears.


05afe7 No.538106

>>538101

Found the Jew.

Jews are not even a racially homogenous group but an ideological arm of satanism. Most Jews today have no relation to the Israelites as the Ashkenazi majority descend from Khazars which is proven through history and through genetic studies.

Judaism itself has little to do with the old covenant. Judaism as a religion was developed in Bablyon in the 3rd century ad with the Babylonian Talmud to counter the growing catholic faith. Judaism is a Canaanite Babylonian religion and is that whore of Babylon we see in revelation. Most if not all of the old testament is defunct in Judaism as their belief systems are mostly along the lines of kabbalic mysticism, Satan worship, atheism, Marxism and all satanic ideologies.

All Jews are servants of their master Satan

T. Maternally descended "Jew" from Abraham haplogroup J1


224ede No.538126

>>538100

>How does one achieve mental gymnastics on this level

By being Jewish.


5bd4b3 No.538154

>>538101

>How does one achieve mental gymnastics on this level, and how can I prove to this person that they're wrong?

By knowing nothing about talmudic judaism at all I guess? Every christian who calls the mosaic covenent still legitimate and the notion of zionism anything but invalid nonsense is by definition an apostate or wilfully ignorant. Whenever I have a conversation like this I just point to the talmud and how it boasts about killing jesus, calling him the son of roman soldier who's now in hell boiling in excrements, just lay an emphasis on the fact that the jews have rejected the christian god, and whatever they have left has nothing to do with christianity. Of course God still wants to save the jews, but it's the same as with anyone, accept jesus christ and get baptised, no special treatment necessary. Sadly this philosemitism has become firmly entrenched in most congregations, they just ignore the fact that jews and christians have literally no common ground to discuss things in favour of feel good politics.


5f01ac No.538162

>>538106

>Babylon

>3rd century AD

Yeah, youre a fucking idiot.


37b15b No.538163

>>538106

> (mystery) babylon


6c3c15 No.538164

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b0d8b6 No.538170

>>538126

>By being Jewish.

Underrated answer. Anyone who has delved in the Kabbalah knows that Jews are masters of legal loopholes and mental gymnastics.


5bd4b3 No.538174

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>>538162

>babylon didn't exist in the 3rd Cenutry

You sure are stupid, you could even just read the wikipedia entry about babylon and it will tell you about the babylonian talmud written around that time, just because the kingdom of babylon ended about a millenia before, doesn't mean the region no longer existed as a cultural entity


5229b9 No.538261

I've had this argument several times. Even when I tell them about what the Talmud says or what Israel has done, they say something like "Well I don't know about that, but I know we're supposed to support Israel because the Bible says God will bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse it and it says to pray for Jerusalem in the book of Psalms."

>>538100

>TL;DR- I'm looking for scripture putting Jews onto the same level of Gentiles in every way possible other than Galatians 3:28

39 “Abraham is our father,” they answered. “If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would do what Abraham did.

40 As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things.

41 You are doing the works of your own father.” “We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”

42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me.

43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say.

44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!

46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me?

47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”




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