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94a41a No.537966

Magna Carta

I'm reading the wikipedia entry about this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta

Apparently this is all about a bunch of landowners (barrons/"middle class") declaring their sovereignty. Basically they're saying "fuck you" to the king and saying that the only authority the civil government has is to reaffirm common law principles.

It says that many founding fathers appealed to the principles of common law by the Magna Carta.

Common Law is based on the bible. For example Deuteronomy 4 commands the children of Israel to POSSESS the land:

>1 Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the statutes and unto the judgments, which I teach you, for to do them, that ye may live, and go in and ```possess``` the land which the Lord God of your fathers giveth you.

>5 Behold, I have taught you statutes and judgments, even as the Lord my God commanded me, that ye should do so in the land whither ye go to ```possess``` it.

>14 And the Lord commanded me at that time to teach you statutes and judgments, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go over to ```possess``` it.

>22 But I must die in this land, I must not go over Jordan: but ye shall go over, and ```possess``` that good land.

>26 I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day, that ye shall soon utterly perish from off the land whereunto ye go over Jordan to ```possess``` it; ye shall not prolong your days upon it, but shall utterly be destroyed.

>47 And they ```possessed``` his land, and the land of Og king of Bashan, two kings of the Amorites, which were on this side Jordan toward the sunrising;

And this principle does resonate with the english definition of property:

1. that which a person owns; the ```possession``` or possessions of a particular owner:

``They lost all their property in the fire.``

2. goods, land, etc., considered as ```possessions```:

``The corporation is a means for the common ownership of property.``

3. a piece of land or real estate:

``property on Main Street.``

4.ownership; right of ```possession```, enjoyment, or disposal of anything, especially of something tangible:

``to have property in land.``

That's pretty significant. Most people don't own property anymore. Why is that?

Why have most, nay, all churches abandoned these principles. IF we were all secure in our property, we would have God's intended authority of husband over wife and man over himself in tact.

Perhaps God is cursing our nation because we have abdicated our responsibility in asserting our rights.

The only authority a righteous republic has is to write statute that reaffirms common law (revealed & natural law) principles. What's the deal? Why don't we learn these things?

209905 No.537971

Well because the babylonians and Satan own it all since the kingdom of heaven passed into their hands in matthew 4:8-10 and 2 kings 24.

It was preety evil of them at the time to rebel against the king because of romans 13. Especially as (((the babylonians))) came in and took control of their land after the king had lost power.


94a41a No.537988

>>537971

No Satan does not own my body and mind.. nor does he have any authority over the means to sustain them. People voluntarily lien their property rights because they are deceived. That's why all rights are unalienable.


209905 No.537999

>>537988

>No Satan does not own my body

Yes he does own your physical body because of how marriage works, see Matthew 16:23, matthew 22:23, Genesis 2:23-24, Mark 10:1-9, 1 corinthians 6 and 1 corinthians 7.

>nor does he have any authority over the means to sustain them.

Satan owns all the kingdoms of the world Matthew 4:8-10. Yes he does have the means to sustain the physical body. But you should be a Christian and not care for things of the flesh romans 8:8. But you should care for the spirit 1 peter 2:5.

>People voluntarily lien their property rights because they are deceived.

This is true but remember they never owned it to begin with since Satan owned it with permission of God who owns all things.


94a41a No.538006

>>537999

You're failing to realize that the only appeal these so called kingdoms have to make an appeal to protect property commons, which they do. If Satan has to appeal to it, that means that we as Christians still have a responsibility to assert your rights.

I'm not trying to impose myself as a king over an earthly kingdom, I'm sayin that I as a sovereign Christian who has the law do not have to answer to lawless pagans. Satan does not have authority over my soul.

If I have land, the only authority civil government has is to protect my property rights from other sovereign people who would threaten my rights. Doesn't matter who is in charge, I as a Christian have the right to defend myself against anyone or anything who threatens my God-given rights.


209905 No.538009

>>538006

>If Satan has to appeal to it, that means that we as Christians still have a responsibility to assert your rights.

Umm what? No Christian should be "asserting" anything until Revelation 11:15 when Jesus is given the kingdoms of the world again. yes this is literally you own nothing goyim straight from the Bible

>I'm sayin that I as a sovereign Christian who has the law do not have to answer to lawless pagans.

Yes you do. See romans 13.

>Satan does not have authority over my soul.

No he doesn't have power over your spirit or your soul which are seperate things in 1 thesselonians 5:23. But he does have power over your physical body see matthew 4:8-10 and matthew 16:23 along with the marriage explanation above.

We serve God in the spirit John 4:23-24. Not in the flesh romans 8:8.


79c1bf No.538010

>>538009

>yes this is literally you own nothing goyim straight from the Bible

I started laughing because of this. Thanks.


94a41a No.538094

>>538009

you completely misunderstood romans 13.


326af8 No.538108

>>537966

Welcome to the thought process behind Distributism/subsidiarity


94a41a No.538242

>>538108

>diatributism

This is the same principle as communism with agents of the church functioning analogously as the agents of the civil government.

>The "cooperative" approach advances beyond this perspective to recognise that such property and equipment may be "co-owned" by local communities larger than a family, e.g., partners in a business.

This is bad.


94a41a No.538251

>>538242

Nevermind, I do like what I read from the Wikipedia article however that blurb sounds like a mere reaffirmation of God given unlimited right to contract rather than some ground breaking insight lol. The principles in distributism are older than what the Roman Catholic Church made. It was just common law.

It's not that I am referring to distributism. It's that distribution is referring to me and what I'm saying.

And the other problematic thing is someone given the authority to break up trusts. If there was no socialism, the trusts would be broken up organically.

Remember he four realms of authority:

Authority of the man over himself

Authority of the husband over his family

Authority of the church

Authority of the civil government




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