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3dbfb7 No.532040

Not going to watch the video mostly just because I don't have time to, but as far as I can see this isn't "abuse", but he shouldn't have said "fuck". Also, description reads like a tumblr post.

My question is: who is in the right here?

If you're a recent convert from reddit, 4chan, or haven't AT LEAST been here since mid-2016, please don't post in this thread. Thank you.

Also, excuse my poor OP, I am having trouble sleeping over some stress.

bc376d No.532055

>>532040

There is no reason whatsoever to raise a hand in anger to anyone at any time.


df0d6e No.532059

>>532040

>only people who meet my approval may post in my thread

Pha-Q

I hope your dad beats you with a shovel.


5f50ad No.532066

Bible is pro-beating your kids, there's no way around it.

someone is going to post 20 proof-texts for this.

my parents beat the shit out of me, but the chip on my shoulder (that i should get rid of) i have against how i was raised had more to do against the lack of love, affection and attention i experienced from them growing up rather than the discipline. there needs to be a balance.


55369b No.532070

If you don't understand the difference between discipline and abuse maybe wait on children.


d683f2 No.532072

>>532066

If my parents would ever try to hit me I would beat the shit out of them


4be1a2 No.532089

>>532072

>christ would want me to beat up my parents for disciplining me

oh boy


d683f2 No.532091

>>532089

no good parent will ever need anger to discipline his children


bea9f5 No.532096

>>532070

/thread


bea9f5 No.532098

As long as it is used primarily for shame and not for pain, I think physical punishment is a good thing. Spanking, a flick to the forehead, a spoon to the back of the hand, or even a submission hold can be good ways to embarrass them (especially in public) and get across the lesson you're trying to teach. I don't think there's any more effective way to burn in a lesson when push comes to shove and the kid just won't listen.

You should never use a strike you might use against an adult, like a full-fisted punch or kick, on a child. The moment it crosses the boundary of pain being used as a deterrent for its own sake, I think it's over the line. It's teaching the wrong idea, that you shouldn't do bad things because it means someone will sock you one.


3c4313 No.532103

I was once falsely accused of 'child abuse' by people who hated me with a great bias and were looking to find any way to screw me over.

These are my honest thoughts on the injustice done.


3dbfb7 No.532115

>>532070

It's less about me better things to do than waste time on the video; as I said, so far all I saw was a belt being used on a ~12-year-old and more about

>datamining

>>532098

Best answer.


0538a3 No.532123

I'll quote doctor of philosophy and father of seven Taylor Marshall on the matter.

Objection 1. It seems that spanking children is not lawful because the Apostle states, “Fathers, do not provoke your children, lest they become discouraged” (Col 3:21) and again, “Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord” (Eph 6:4). Now physical injury is a provocation. Hence spanking children is not lawful.

Objection 2. Besides, the Psalmist sings, “thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me” (Ps 23:4). Now striking a child with the rod is not comforting. Hence, it is not lawful to spank a child.

Objection 3. Furthermore, God prevented Moses from entering the Promised Land because he angrily struck the rock of salvation with a rod (cf. Num 20:11). By this signification we learn that the rod denotes the species of anger that forfeits the divine promises on account of malice. Hence, it is not lawful to use the rod on children about which Christ spoke: “For to such belongs the kingdom of Heaven” (Mt 19:14) for in these words Christ speaks of a promise.

On the contrary, It is written: “He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him” (Prov 12:24) and again, “Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline drives it far from him” (Prov 22:15). Now the dutiful parent disciplines his child and drives away folly. Therefore, it is lawful to spank a child with the rod.

I answer that, striking a child may be accomplished in two ways. A parent may spank a child in wrath so as to injure the child, or a parent may spank a child in a spirit of charity and patience so as to fulfill the words: “he who loves him is diligent to discipline him.” Consequently, spankings administered in charity are virtuous and meritorious.

Reply to the First Objection. Here the Apostle speaks of wrathful provocation whereby the child is wounded. Now the correction of vice in a child is not a wound, but a cure. Hence, the Apostle does not denounce corporeal punishments.

Reply to the Second Objection. The rod comforts the Psalmist spiritually. As stated above, the removal of vice is comforting. Hence, corporeal punishment that seeks to mitigate vice is licit since it leads to spiritual comfort.

Reply to the Third Objection. Moses forfeited his right to the Promise Land by angrily bearing the rod of the Lord. Previously, the Lord also said to Moses: “And you shall take in your hand this rod, with which you shall do the signs” (Ex 4:17). Now rods can be used in two ways. Relatively speaking, rods are neutral in that they can be used for a good or a bad purpose. The rod of discipline, simply speaking, drives away folly, as stated above, and for this reason the Lord says, “with which you shall do the signs.” Hence the term “rod” need not denote wrathful indignation on the part of the one who bears the rod.

tl;dr Beat your child not from wrath but from love. Do not injure him though.


d683f2 No.532124

>>532098

That's how you raise gay children with submission/spanking/anal fetishes


338638 No.533705

>>532040

Spanking is an important part of discipline. Those cheeks aren't just there for padding.


5e18fc No.533706

>>532055

He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

Proverbs 13:24


b8304f No.533717

>>532040

>shouldn't have said Fuck

"Get on your GD stomach"

Hypocrites are not welcome especially ones that are more extreme.

While fuck is an acronymn that attributed to the lawful consent of the heretical act of fornication. GD is way worse. That is the Lord's name in vain. Not an acronymn, not a slang term; pure disregard for how we are supposed to respect God.

Both are in the wrong but heretical hypocrites are obvioisly way worse than any disobedient child.

Kid deserved it until it was out of anger and they were saying worse things than fuck. If that child grows up to think that fuck is bad but anger and disrespecting God is then they have failed as parents. Also she had a sonic poster so it looks lile they already messed up.


04370e No.533731

>>532040

He did the right thing. Even though the belt makes it look scary its actually safer because it doesn't cause injury, unlike your hand which has more weight behind it and can do damage to deeper tissues.

Also his daughter has nice titties tbh

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04370e No.533732

>>532040

They probably found her interracial porn colleciton


bc376d No.533737

>>533706

>in anger

Try again.


04370e No.533738

>>533737

>hurr durr anger is always bad

Have you castrated yourself yet?

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bc376d No.533743

>>533731

>lust

>>533732

>bearing false witness

>>533738

>wrath

I will pray for you.


338638 No.533748

>>533731

I would've spanked her bare, with my hand, not a belt.


0288e3 No.533765

>>532040

im ok with spanking but his crosses the line tbh.


92cdb4 No.533772

>>533765

How does it cross the line?


7f776e No.533773

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>>532059

What on Earth are you talking about you vulgar mong?

Cuckchan and reddit are both abhorrent.


ca1561 No.533778

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>532040

a ban on smacking is against human nature

lets ban it anyway :^)


6730d3 No.533806

Watching the whole video, this is obviously abuse. If your child is misbehaving too much then sure, they need a few spanks or a few cracks of the belt. But these parents went overboard.


a51de0 No.533810

I am glad my parents disciplined me or else I would have ended up like the faggots itt


a51de0 No.533811

>>532059

oh fuck off redditor, having standards for content is not a bad thing

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a51de0 No.533813

>>532123

/thread


0288e3 No.533814

>>533772

He is hating in anger while cursing. Also she is clearly to old to be spanked and he is not instilling in her true christian values.


92cdb4 No.533824

>>533814

>>533772

Oh boo hoo she got whipped with a belt. I got whipped harder than that when I was 5 years old. She should have just bent over the bed. She's a rebellious whore screaming worse than a child.


92cdb4 No.533826

>>533814

He is her father and its his responsibility to beat her, as it was commanded by God.


9fefde No.533831

>>533811

wew thanks for confirming this board is reddit now


7154f4 No.533853

I meet all the requirements for people who are apparently allowed to reply in this thread according to you, and this video is just terrible, I'm sorry.

Maybe it's just because I'm european or something, but when you as a man lead your family toward that fever pitch of hostility and negativity you are not handling the situation correctly. The family unit, the nuclear family model whatever you wanna call it, is sacred! This video just brings back memory of when my household exploded in that way, and it's in way a good thing.

Raise your children right, and physically at times if you must, by God, but being cruel is being cruel.


384081 No.533856

>>533853

>Maybe it's just because I'm european or something

My grandpa who was born in Germany once had a teacher brake the ruler on his bum.


031812 No.533867

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>>532040

Some crazy washed up former Chad with anger issues and a bitch wife takes disciplining his accident child whom he secretly hates too far, more at 11.

That said should he go to jail/have his children taken from him for this? No, especially if it's not a common occurrence (which doesn't seem to be the case) could've just been a 1 time thing, he had a bad day or something.


7154f4 No.533871

>>533856

Yeah, that happened sometimes. But he sure didn't get 5 other rulers and broke them on his ass too. Overkill is overkill, and this video is definitely overkill.


51367c No.533914

>>532040

Slapping your kid != (beating && abuse)

If your kid did something very wrong, slapping it is not a bad thing. Infact, what is so "effective" about it is the shock effect for the kid. Beating can or cannot be bad ad/or sinful. If you whoop your kid's ass (I mean literally, not like "lel beat him up nguh) after it did something GRAVELY wrong, that can be absolutely ok. If you beat it up for trivial stuff or just like that - that's obviously wrong and abuse.

It all comes down to intention.

Also, one thing you MUST NOT forget is, that these are "tools" of disciplining your kid. In no way are you allowed to go further than that. And another thing which you MUST NOT forget is to explain your kid what went wrong, why you slapped it - in love, not anger or disgust.

The whole discussion about "beating your child" is mislead, because peple will consider anything a beating that is not throwing with balls of wool. That's wrong.


75df37 No.533955

>>533914

There is nothing wrong with beating your child. In fact the Bible commands you to.

Proverbs 23:13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.

Proverbs 23:14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

>>533853

How is whipping her with a belt "cruel." The Bible says that she should have been beaten with a rod; if anything the father was too soft.

>>533871

That girl was barely whipped at all. She refused to bend over the bed to get whipped on her behind because she's rebellious, and its obvious that she set this whole thing up to spite her parents.


7a7e8c No.533969

Hopefully when she gets a bit older, her and her friends will beat her dad with a baseball bat. Which is a rod of a sort.

Turn about is fair play.


b031ae No.533977

>>533969

Exodus 21:15 And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death.


999c94 No.533993

>>533969

Even if you believe the father to be wrong, this is not the answer… not the Christian one, at least.


0288e3 No.534015

>>533824

not an argument

>>533826

Her father has the responsibility to discipline his children but he has to do in that right way. Hitting her in that way and at that age is un-biblcal. Spanking should make kids understand that there are certain lines you do not cross and a good parent will explain why. Children are quite complicated but important and I think that is the reason why our Lord gave them so much attention. If heaven belongs to children like these as Christ says then we should instil a respect for both God and what is right in our kids not fear or trauma.


6e3097 No.534344

>>533969

>tranny decons

>condones beating your parents

wew


f7519d No.534345

>>534344

Fits like a glove tbh.




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