fb55cf No.486397
Today was pretty good. I didn't do anything embarrassing! (Praise God) Read Wisdom 12:13, 16-19. Was moved very much by the reading from Romans 8:26-27 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with sighs too deep for words. And he who searches the hearts of men knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.
92c18e No.486416
>>486383
>attendance growing each week
Really? That's amazing. Is it diocesan or Fssp etc.?
6f247f No.486424
>>486416
It was recently recognized by the bishop as a chaplaincy so just in the past two weeks our collections are going to the TLM instead of the NO Co-cathedral which is nice. So yeah its diocesan. Each week I see new faces. Even at daily low mass i've been seeing new folks every once in a while
47a46d No.486516
>>474814
I'm back. Went on vacation to a Benedictine monastery for a week. Loved it and gained both knowledge and wisdom and a sunburn from working for my stay. Mass was wonderful, as was prime, terce, sext, none, compline and vespers. I never woke up in time for matins/lauds. Pic related the monastery from the ozark foothills it's in.
I've decided to quit my job as it is a grave sin to work on Sunday and my company is in league with evil people too, so I cannot allow my soul to be in jeopardy because of a job. Pray that I find a new job soon brethren.
6a9a25 No.486528
>>486516
How would I get in contact with a monastery to do the same thing you did?
>it is a grave sin to work on Sunday
It is? I thought practicing the Sabbath was a ceremonial law.
c6e9ca No.486531
>>486528
>I thought practicing the Sabbath was a ceremonial law.
Nope, it's in the Ten Commandments.
6a9a25 No.486534
>>486531
That's right. Silly me. This is why I shouldn't have stopped practicing reciting the Ten Commandments.
47a46d No.486536
>>486528
Just look up monasteries in your country, and see if they will let you work for your stay. They likely won't have it on their website, so you'll need to contain your spaghetti and actually talk to someone on the phone. I was expecting to have to pay for my stay until they actually told me in person I could just work.
>working on sabbath a grave sin
Catechism 2185
>On Sundays and other holy days of obligation, the faithful are to refrain from engaging in work or activities that hinder the worship owed to God, the joy proper to the Lord's Day, the performance of the works of mercy, and the appropriate relaxation of mind and body.123 Family needs or important social service can legitimately excuse from the obligation of Sunday rest. The faithful should see to it that legitimate excuses do not lead to habits prejudicial to religion, family life, and health.
As leader of my parish's men's Schola and part of the choir, it is rather important I be there for high mass. Secondly, my work as a jeweler isn't a good work and is often used to satisfy peoples' vanity and perverse "marriages".
6a9a25 No.486545
>>486536
Thanks. What did you do during your stay?
47a46d No.486549
>>486545
Various tasks. Ranged from doing dishes and folding towels, to picking fruit and veggies in the field at noon and watering willow trees for shade for the monks. If you find a Benedictine place, be prepared to WORK. Monasticism may seem like holy NEETdom, but they are an antithesis to it.
Pic related, our motivation for work.
6a9a25 No.486552
>>486549
I don't mind being put to work. I rather enjoy it, actually. Thank you.
a0dea3 No.486554
>>469037
Not good, please pray for all churches in America and across this world. We need to wake up.
47a46d No.486556
>>486552
My pleasure. Best of luck finding a monastery brother!
99bff7 No.488013
>>474466
This
>lurking on and off since late 2014
>hmm let me look again, last time I lurked here was 6 months ago
>no christopher lee mass thread
Felt sad
cd4744 No.490892
>Sunday thread on page 9 on Sunday
Bumpin'. I just went to church for the first (real) time in my life. It was really fantastic. If any of you are anxious about it, you honestly just have to dive into the deep end, I was literally up all night and had a kinda life changing epiphany and just decided at 8 o'clock this morning I was going to drive to the local Orthodox parish. Everyone there was so nice, Divine Liturgy was amazing, there was this very nice monastic fellow there and me and someone I met at the church had a brief discussion about the goods and evils of the internet, overall I'd say it was VERY positive experience and I can't wait until next Sunday.
77adf5 No.490910
This young woman went up to sing today by herself, but she got really nervous and was messing up. I had to keep looking down not to laugh.
Riperoni
92c18e No.490934
>Sisters of the precious blood sister speaks after the homily.
>clapping before and after she spoke
>she wasn't wearing the full habit and her hair was uncovered
0eb400 No.490935
>>490910
I bet she was cute
686e97 No.490937
>>490934
Clapping on the church seems somewhat unappropriate, yet, everybody here doesn't seem to mind it aswell. What do you say about it?
92c18e No.490942
>>490937
>What do you say about it?
What do the popes say about it.
"It is not fitting to applaud the servant in the house of his Master." Pope St. Pius X
ae6e14 No.490944
>>490934
I think we need to make a distinction between sisters and nuns.
Sisters tend to spend most of their lives out doing work in the communities among lay people, while nuns tend to spend most of their lives within their cloistered community.
I think the older generations of sisters out in the communities rarely wore their habits, but the younger of generation of sisters is changing that.
Pic related are cloistered nuns.
92c18e No.490946
>>490944
That's why I referred to her as a sister. Why wasn't she wearing a head covering though? It's an NO mass.
686e97 No.490963
>>490942
Indeed, this does make much sense. I've been following the people in the applauding, but I won't do it anymore.
6a9a25 No.490964
Went well. Good sermon, I met the priest afterword and he blessed my new rosary. Ran into an old acquaintance from high school who apparently attends the same mass I do.
>>490934
I had a similar situation today. A woman from the Dominican Order came and spoke to our parish after Mass. Her head was uncovered and all that. She was just there to promote her order and ask for prayers, and everyone applauded after her little speech. It was fine, and was separate from the liturgy, so I didn't mind too much.
>>490942
> "It is not fitting to applaud the servant in the house of his Master." Pope St. Pius X
I'll keep that in mind. Thank you for that quote. I will say that Pope Benedict's quote, at least in the case of my parish today, wasn't so much applicable because the speech was done separate from the liturgy. It was done in the same room, but the liturgy was already finished.
0d763e No.490970
It was okay. The liturgy was nice, but the sermon merely consisted of kids telling their mission stories. I get the message behind the mission stories, but I don't think that's an appropriate substitute for a sermon. A nice supplement, perhaps, but sermon? No. To his credit, the pastor said that he only did that once a year. Overall, I had a decent time, but the search continues.
Doesn't help that there aren't many OPC churches in Kansas City
0d763e No.490972
>>480250
>non-denominational
Isn't that just a code word for Baptist?
0d763e No.490976
>>480091
Spaghetti expert here. What you need to do is take that spaghetti and rip it by the balls. It's the only way, anon!
0d763e No.490977
>>480053
There's something fishy about this picture...
4a8066 No.490982
Well, I went to St. Anthony's outside of Charlotte and it was alright. What it is about fully dressed demure girls that get my blood pumping? I made a bit of a trek to be there and the father told me about one that was closer to where I live, but despite being a greek congregation the liturgy is supposedly mostly in english. I'm excited. I wouldn't mind making Greek my fourth language!
ae6e14 No.490985
>>490977
<Matthew 4:19
>He said to them, “Come after me, and I will make you fishers of men.”
92c18e No.490988
>>490964
>>490963
I used to clap too. I need to tell my parents to stop. If it's during mass you should avoid it I think.
686e97 No.490989
>>490946
Has lifting the obligation for women to wear veils brought any benefit?
92c18e No.490992
14a17c No.490995
94b867 No.491002
>>486528
It is a sin to not keep the Sabbath holy. However I think their are some loopholes like people in a situation where they work Saturday and Sunday. In that situation you should set aside a day of rest and worship. Also Jesus worked on the Sabbath.
>Then Jesus asked them, “Which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?” But they remained silent.
>He looked around at them in anger and, deeply distressed at their stubborn hearts,
686e97 No.491017
>>490992
Did you read the text in the link? There it says it was lifted.
173c2e No.491055
>3 hour sermon
3/4ths of the way through, i don't remember what the Pastor was talking about :(
6a9a25 No.491057
>>491055
>3 hour sermon
My word. The longest sermon I've ever experienced in-person was around an hour. Usually, when I was protestant, the sermon was about 40 minutes. Does your pastor do that every week?
173c2e No.491062
>>491057
Nope, usually its 1 and a half. Some big stuff happened though with some strange doctrines in the church. So he started railing against it. But I think he is doing it the wrong way and not allowing us to process it all.
6a9a25 No.491069
>>491062
Yeah, he should have broken it up. I've heard of Baptist churches in the next town over from mine letting out for lunch, then reconvening an hour later for another hour or two for worship and sermon. That probably would have been better so y'all could process everything.
92c18e No.491082
>>491017
Yeah you're right, I only read part of the article where it mentioned it wasn't included. Didn't realize that means it's no longer required.
6f247f No.491204
Great sermon today about mortification and fasting and the readings were really fitting to recent struggles I've been having. As I was leaving, the priest called me back in and encouraged me to join a new youth group which was nice. Introduced me to the girl running it, who I had seen at weekday mass, but was glad to finally meet and we small talked for a bit
fa57b5 No.494906
going to church for the first time in 5 hours, a catholic church
pray for me lads, that I don't spill my spaghetti everywhere
6f247f No.501014
How was mass today, anons? You all did go, right? Just a reminder Feast of the Assumption coming up Tuesday and that is a Holy Day of Obligation.
fa2a33 No.501023
Attended the local Greek Orthodox service for the first time today after being raised Protestant. It was definitely a new experience for me. I really liked the feeling of the Orthodox church, it didn't feel spiritually sterile like the protestant nondenoms I've been to.
6d7124 No.501033
>>501014
Good, the priest talked about the apostle faith in Jesus, but there weren't a lot of people since it's august. Except a kid i was the only young one :(
fa2a33 No.501038
>>501033
I know that feel. Outside of the small handful of children, I was the only young adult at the church. All old people. Most churches that aren't megachurch nondenoms are like that unfortunately.
b47973 No.501041
wtf @ people who limp wrist the peace
c95867 No.501042
>>486528
That one is clear creek. Has Tridentine.
f6bdd9 No.501047
Liturgy of St. Gregory is pretty cool
5d7c4d No.501057
Went to a Ukranian-Catholic church of the Byzantine rite today.
Pretty nice, very nice people too.
677246 No.501067
I don't have one. All the Catholic churches are Irish nationalists that hate my people and all the other churches are filled with people spreading their open borders, pro-marxist ideology with the teachings of Jesus being a distant second, if included at all.
I honestly don't think theres a Christian within 20 miles of my house.
71eb78 No.501077
Are there any christanons in the UK who can recommend a church? I can't seem to find any that follow at least the bare minimum of real christian doctrine.
677246 No.501084
>>501077
You know my suffering, its all shit.
71eb78 No.501085
>>501084
Ah youre British too?
My town has 6 churches, all led and staffed by women, all very much for muh equality etc.
We might be the last two Christians in the country…
677246 No.501088
>>501085
Northern England. Its a nightmare.
Every single time I go to a new church its someone thinking they should use their position to advocate for mass immigration and in the worst cases having a space for muslims within the church. Where roughly are you?
71eb78 No.501090
>>501088
Northern England too actually! I'm a few miles north of manchester
677246 No.501093
>>501090
I'm in Manchester, bible study when?
71eb78 No.501095
>>501093
That's crazy. Whereabouts?
677246 No.501096
>>501095
Walking distance from Manchester United's football stadium. You?
71eb78 No.501099
>>501096
Three miles away my dude, near Eccles
d3c170 No.501101
>Stumbled over the word offscouring during the epistle today
b2b271 No.501103
Sermon was good, and was about pride and warning us to not be prideful about our righteousness.
Later asked out a qt after mass in the parish hall. She had to turn me down as she was only 15. She apologized and said she looks 19. That was an odd feeling.
677246 No.501105
>>501099
>there are actually /christian/s all over the place
>they're thinking that all the churches are terrible and assuming everyone around them is Godless
Do you every browse /brit/? Theres a few good Christians there if you ever want to complain about the specific crap going on with churches in the UK.
71eb78 No.501117
>>501105
Am I being dumb here? Your ID is the same as the guy I was talking to. I will check out /brit/ though.
677246 No.501122
>>501117
Sorry for confusing you, same poster. I'm interested in talking about your experience with churches in the UK but I don't want to go off topic in this thread too much.
71eb78 No.501123
>>501122
My fault. I'm tired and thought you were making a completely opposing point to your other stuff. Is there somewhere else you want to talk/another thread?
677246 No.501132
>>501123
Made a thread
>>501131
3e17eb No.501137
>tfw mass with archbishop
>tfw readings is about Jews
>tfw masons named
>tfw commies named
>tfw liberals and genderists named
>tfw sermon full of rev 12
>tfw Fatima, Syracuse and Mount Clara
>tfw "See you in September" is in my head since
Hold me brothers
3fa930 No.501153
>>501137
Your priest seems based as fuck…
b47973 No.501155
>>501137
>tfw readings is about Jews
Uh, no
6a9a25 No.501164
>>501137
I'd like to know more about this church. You mustn't be in Ordinary Time, because today's reading was about St. Peter's doubt: "Oh ye of little faith" and such.
06f964 No.501176
Checked out a Ortho Church and man was it lovely. Felt so nice, perfect, harmonious, and proper for worship. Still not confident if I want to begom and abandon Catholicism tbh…
fb55cf No.501181
>>501137
>LARPs about being it the First Church of /pol/.
<uses Catholic flag
You do realize that we know when you lie, right?
03cd0e No.501187
I ended up slept through it…I wish my church had an afternoon sermons.
6a9a25 No.501191
>>501187
How does pic related make you feel?
9cb746 No.501234
Breddy good.
The only hitch was that during the bidding prayers there was one request about the jews and praying that they may uphold their eternal covenant or something. Not for their conversion, mind you.
I was only half-paying attention so I might have it wrong, but it sounded like that.
>tfw people still unirionically believe in the dual-covenant hypothesis
fcf5b7 No.501237
>>501176
Find an Eastern rite Catholic church if you like the feel.
c95867 No.501250
>>501176
Any tridentine around you? Even if its 2 hours away I'd recommend you go before seriously switching, hopefully with God's grace, it will show you that Catholicism also has resplendant beauty and to focus more on the authority of the Pope, history, and the development and holiness of the western Church (how could a Church develop into something so beautiful and holy while in heresy? The Orthodox are cryogenically frozen, so their beauty is obviouslt there since it is tje beauty of the Church in the 800s, or 1000s).
b149bb No.501259
It was very good. All about God's love for us and how we are to love others like He does. Which sounds like well worn material, but I felt bad because I know I don't treat certain people the right way. And I should probably make amends…
896701 No.501264
Pretty good. Went to a really upscale PCA church in a ritzy part of the Kansas City area. The sermon was over John 14:1-7. Wasn't able to get a Trinity Hymnal today, but one of the elders said he could get me one next Sunday. I was surprised to find knealers in the church; thought that was more of a Roman Catholic thing, but I didn't mind it. There were tons of cute girls there, which was refreshing because most of the presb churches that I've been to were filled with old people.
Definitely going back next week.
746f3e No.501267
Pretty good! Sermon was about fear and God's power. How God is always with us, and his is the power, and we are not as alone as we seem, referencing the reading from the Hebrew scriptures. How fear can get in the way of faith.
c2faef No.501318
We sung happy birthday to the priest and there was lots of clapping at the end of the mass. How bad is this? Or is it ok?
746f3e No.501319
>>501318
We sometimes clap after the postlude when we do high mass but it is quite a production. Singing happy birthday to the priest during the liturgy seems odd. If it's after mass in the parish hall that's ok. Birthday and anniversary blessings during prayers for the people are also OK.
295fa3 No.501320
>>501318
Really depends on if there was anything more to it mate. As in an actual mass…
c2faef No.501321
>>501320
>>501319
This was after the final blessing, before the closing hym.
746f3e No.501324
>>501321
I would think after the closing benediction has been given, the mass is indeed over. I would throw this into the awkward-but-not-wrong bin.
295fa3 No.501325
Mine was fine Btw. The Priest started with a story from Seminary, about his teachers talking about Golf and how if you keep your eyes fixed on your target, you'll guide the shot naturally. He then paralleled this to Matthew 14:22-33, and how Simon (Peter) let his mind be clouded by fear and lost sight of Jesus, and began to sink. Then he went on talking about how people let worldly anxiety and struggles cloud their faith, and how we should never lose sight of Jesus and his teachings, so that we will be naturally guided through life.
I really liked it.
The rest of the mass proceeded as normal…
295fa3 No.501326
56a7f5 No.501430
>>501264
>Kansas City
AYYYYY
Went pretty well. Priest spoke about humility and how we must always know where we stand in the sight of God. It was kind of dark, but it's an imp
f047f3 No.501485
I went into the first church in over one decade (22) with my Mother who recently has regrown her faith. 50 minutes of music (musically talented family runs the place) & borderline Pentecostal epileptic dances and emotionally manipulative alter calls with suiting background music. My Mother told me it had never been like this the few visits before, and was likely because they were trying to impress these visiting church members from another congregation in town and any other new visitors. Plenty of potentially OK Baptist churches around we agreed to try next.
aafb87 No.502236
>>469037
Dude, black veil is for married women, Christ-chan is obviously a virgin so white veil for her
ac0fc5 No.503603
>>501153
He ain't mine and that wasn't even my parish. Far from it geographically speaking.
>>501155
>>501164
Romans 9:1-5 is a second reading of nineteenth Sunday in Ordinary Time.
>>501181
/pol/ is too jewish due to its nazism
8f6dea No.503708
I went on Sunday, but I went to confession on Tuesday because of the celebration of the Assumption of Mary.
I'm not sure why people dislike going into confession so much. It's a bit awkward going to admit that you've screwed up pretty bad this past week/month/year/lifetime, but afterwards the priest (My priest, atleast) gives me both advice and penance on the main problems which I face.
It's not only refreshing, but also reassuring to hear a wiser man than I say that though I screwed up, I can still be forgiven by the Lord our God.
I love my Church, both locally and Universally. I hope more people down here in the South/Midwest would come to meet the Catholic faith.
My opinion, of course.
8f6dea No.503710
>>494906
Did everything go all right, mate?
b29cbb No.505559
vigil service was incredible today
50157b No.505595
6f247f No.506776
How was Mass anon? Hope you all had a nice Sunday!
21ed55 No.506789
>tfw go to new parish because away for school
>everyone claps at the end of mass
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE POPE BENEDICT XVI SAID NO CLAPPING IN CHURCH
ffe2c2 No.506790
>when you go to Latin mass and you're the only non-married guy under 25 there besides the seminarians altar serving with the priest and the same two girls always make eye contact with you and smile throughout the mass but you briskly walk out right after mass because you don't know how to approach them with their families around
JUST
c2faef No.506793
>>506790
>the only non-married guy under 25
Do you mean over 25?
c2faef No.506794
>>506789
People always clap after the final hymn. Is this bad? Benedict just said it was bad during the liturgy. I believe Pius X said it was always wrong to applaud a servant in the master's house.
b47973 No.506805
>>506790
Approach either father instead
21ed55 No.506808
>>506794
Clapping after the final hymn is bad because it reduces the Holy sacrifice of the mass and the sacrament of the Eucharist to nothing but entertainment.
We don't go to Mass to be entertained, we go to worship and give thanks to our Lord.
21ed55 No.506812
>>506790
>tfw go to mass
>see family of qt3.14s
>all dressed the most traditionally of the entire congregation
>one of them is the only girl wearing a veil
>notice of of them look at and smile at me
>then remember I'm discerning priesthood
JUST
ffe2c2 No.506823
>>506793
Sorry I was phoneposting and must've missed it.
I meant to write in the 18-25 category.
>>506805
I might just go to every parish event until I see one of them or meet another girl.
>>506812
You might end up discerning that marriage is for you. :) Have you tried talking to a vocation director?
c2faef No.506874
>>506808
So clapping in the sanctuary is always wrong no matter what's going on? I haven't clapped in a while. Just making sure.
16a702 No.506881
>>469037
Went to my first ever Latin high mass this morning at pic related, which houses the shrine of Bl. John Henry Newman. The highlight for me was the choir, the music brought a tear to my eye. It was all incredible though, 10/10 experience.
The homily was about the infallibility of the Church and the futility of "watered down Catholicism".
"Bishops come and go, Popes come and go, but Christ is eternal".
The priest also went on a tirade against the falling away of tradition and "so-called same sex unions". I am certain that this particular church would be /christian/ approved.
d1ccdc No.506883
>>506881
Glad you've found your new home then.
3c0641 No.506889
>>506881
I'd become Catholic to go there.
3e474f No.506891
>>506812
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16a702 No.506892
>>506883
I already have a parish, I was just visiting the city for the weekend, I'm a country lad. However I am moving next month and I'll be a 5 min walk from a church which has the extraordinary form.
Personally, as long as a church has a good community and true reverence for the Lord, anything else is a bonus. Although my current tiny little church usually only has mass in the vernacular, it has the above 2 things in spades. I'll be sad to leave.
0af9ed No.506893
When to the Sunday Mass at an Episcopal church fifteen minutes from my hometown (my mom is Episcopalian and I'm technically still confirmed and she really wanted me to go to church with her this Sunday). It was very nice. Sure it was another case of…
>Women priests
But I really liked the congregation. It was very small (about 15 people) but they were all friendly and welcoming. I really enjoyed the sermon on Matthew 15:10-27. Coffee hour was relaxing and had a nice chat with an elderly man about programming and my computer science major.
b47973 No.506908
>>506893
>When to the Sunday Mass at an Episcopal church
No such thing
896701 No.506909
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Very good. Went to a Presbyterian church (Presbyterian Church in America; not PCUSA, so inb4 le woman and fag preachers). This is only my second time attending this church, but so far, it seems based as fuck. I was able to attend a Sunday school class on the City of God, although today was the last day. We sung Immortal, Invisible, God Only Wise, O the Deep Love of Jesus, and I Need Thee Every Hour. One of the elders gave a sermon on John 15:1-11; apart from the power of God, we can do nothing. The elder gave an inspiring account of one of the sickly member's constant intercession for him. I pray to have that level of fortitude! We participated in communion, as they do every Sunday. I was also able to meet two cuties from my Sunday school class; both were articulate and very modest.
The only down falls were that one of the elders forgot to give me the Trinity Hymnal that he reserved for me, and I was behind an attractive older lady; I'm a recovering pervert, so give me some slack guise.
There is an unusually high amount of attractive girls at this church, so I had to really concentrate on the sermon. But overall, it was a good experience. I might join the church in the next two weeks. Hopefully, I can get baptized. I was baptized in a Baptist church when I was 17, but I only did it to get my family off of my back; not sure if that was a valid baptism.
0af9ed No.506918
746f3e No.506919
>>506893
Good for you man. Ain't many of us but those who are are here because they want to be. You ain't the only one on this board, by a long stretch.
6499a8 No.506984
>>506893
It is against the rules to go to another Churche's services. It probably was a sin tbh. At least thats my priest.
fb55cf No.506987
>>506984
If I get invited to a different church by a friend or family member, I go to Saturday Vigil so I can attend service with my friend/family. It's perfectly acceptable.
492355 No.506990
>>506987
Nah man I mean its just wrong to go to the service itself. Thats what my priest said, and it was in my catechism book "This is The Faith".
27ddb1 No.507051
>>469037
>don't go to Church for reasons
>use /christian/ as Church instead
>userbase degenerates
>go here less and less
>realize I haven't been coming here on Sundays lately
>mfw /christian/ is still a better alternative to IRL Church despite it being a slog to deal with
896701 No.507105
>>507051
>use /christian/ as Church instead
That's depressing
171995 No.507107
d6f002 No.507112
>>507105
to be fair, it's better than attending pastor steve anderson's church where he bullies you from the pulpit in front of the entire congregation
896701 No.507116
>>507112
>to be fair, it's better than attending pastor steve anderson's church
Fixed.
d6f002 No.507144
>>507121
in case some of you are mising the point, pastor anderson is probably calling somebody out in the congregation about this and trying to chase said person out of the church
1143ba No.507151
a50671 No.507207
Huh. The church in sweet Christine's left hand looks just like this reverent NO I sometimes go to.
Pray that I stop blowing off Mass until the 7pm NO one, bros. There's TLM at 10am and a very reverent NO at 11:30, both close. I shouldn't be doing this! I much prefer them.
ab5592 No.507223
>>506987
it's a sin if you participate in the service, otherwise it's not a sin but just something you shouldn't do. it's exposing your soul to great danger because you are introduced to twisted interpretations of scriptures, and false ideas.
896701 No.507248
>>507121
He's just jealous that his church is filled with wicked people
fb55cf No.507343
>>507223
>>506990
There is no sin in attending, sitting quietly and observing. It's also a bit of quid pro quo. Example: I go to my aunt's Sunday service one week and she comes to Mass with me the next. Family is important and we're not meant to alienate ourselves from friends and family. Remember the first words God spoke about mankind in the garden: It is not good for man to be alone. (Genesis 2:18)
c2faef No.511003
Question for Latin mass goers:
Is attendance at mass the same on normal Sundays as it is on Christmas and Easter?
58ce5d No.511050
>>511003
It usually swells around holidays because cultural Catholics feel bad about missing those.
c2faef No.511056
>>511050
Even at the Latin masses? I wouldn't expect cultural Catholics to go to a Latin mass.
746f3e No.511110
It was breddy gud, Priest discussed the idea of being recognized by what you do vs genealogy. If we want to be faithful Christians we should aspire to be recognized as filling the posts established in the Gospel reading.
fa2a33 No.511130
Went to the local greek orthodox church for the second time. I think I will become a regular and sometime in the future when I get a chance to talk to the priest, ask about becoming a catechumen.
Being raised protestant and then coming to an orthodox church feels like being told I should not be thirsty when walking through a desert because I have all the water I need- and then being immersed in a pool at an oasis.
Going from "four bare walls and a sermon" to walls covered in holy icons, the smell of incense, the sound of the congregation chanting/singing together, it just feels so right, like this is what faith should be.
>pic related, mural/icon of Mary and the Christ child on the wall above the pulpit/where the priest performs the sacraments.
50157b No.511136
I slept in today because I have been sick and worked late last night. Luckily the nearby Church does Reconciliation before the Monday mass. Feels bad man.
ac562d No.511150
Finally confessed after 2 weeks of heavy sinning. Suddenly everything in life seems better and more hopeful.
6f247f No.511193
>>511150
Good on you anon I'll keep you in my prayers. My steps felt so much light after confession this morning.
ac562d No.511210
>>511193
Thanks. Will pray for you too.
Got a tough year ahead, but with God everything is possible.
f4c79f No.511220
It was okay, even though I couldn`t see anything because I sat in a bad spot.
Plus, I saw a cutie alone and didn't talk to her because I thought she had a boyfriend. Just fuck my shit up, I lost my chance.
fd9b3e No.511256
>>511220
stop looking at women with lust, God is watching you
fb55cf No.511327
>>511220
Stop using Mass as a dating app and maybe God will provide.
ebef78 No.511329
>>511056
I wouldn't expect cultural Catholics to mind the difference
5d7c4d No.511349
>>511003
If regular sunday masses are taken as a standard, non-sunday masses are smaller and huge feast days like Christmas and Easter get more people because of the exotic character.
There are also people who come only on these days and are regular in a NO mass.
>>511056
Most wouldn't even know it.
The catholics that visit are lukewarms mostly from NO.
Any serious catholic would stay not necessarily because Tridentine mass > NO but because these parishes are almost exclusively conservative, traditionally minded catholics in contrast to those from a NO parish.
>>511327
>Not looking for a pure conservative qt gf within your parish
>>511329
I wouldn't expect cultural catholics to even know of the existence of the Tridentine rite.
50157b No.511354
>>511349
A majority of Catholics also: don't realize Francis is a terrible Pope, don't know of or understand the importance of Fatima, take the Sacrament of Communion in a state of Mortal Sin, and are also no better then Protestants.
8fa1d9 No.511355
c2faef No.511413
>>511349
>I wouldn't expect cultural catholics to even know of the existence of the Tridentine rite.
I didn't know about it until 2016 when I heard about it on /pol/. They never mentioned it in school or mass which I had been going to pretty much all my life.
1bfef9 No.511449
Pretty good. The senior elder finally came back from his sabbatical. He preached from Isaiah 56:1-8; the Christian Identity/Hebrew Israelite scum were BTFO because the passage talks about how the foreigners will be grafted in the coming covenant. I was finally able to get my Trinity Hymnal today, so I'm stoked about that. I plan on singing at least one hymn before I go to bed each night so that I won't touch myself.
The bad part was that the two girls that I met last week didn't show up today (at least not the second service at 11am). Then again, they haven't been returning my text messages or phone calls, so that's a different story ;-;
Sunday school was canceled because the church was electing a new elder. I was able to talk to the guy at the church picnic; bretty cool and educated guy. On the flip side, a Sunday school series called "Meet The Pastor" will begin next week. It's basically going over the history of the church, etc. I'm looking forward to that.
644cbf No.515203
consubstantiation was added to the creed at the mass i went to today
!?!?!?!
1f1b48 No.515215
>>515203
That's what you get for attending the novus ordo mass.
c7ec1f No.515221
>>515203
Are you sure this happened?
f31894 No.515223
>Anyone going to the Novus Bogus in 2k17
Are you literally a sadomasochist?
644cbf No.515228
>>515221
not 100% sure it could have been the "consubstantial" bit but it remember it was cons-something
d39460 No.515445
Mass today was wonderful. The readings connected with me as they reminded me of the feelings I had during the time leading up to me coming into the faith.
Jeremiah 20:7-9
You have seduced me, Lord, and I have let myself be seduced;
you have overpowered me: you were the stronger.
I am a daily laughing-stock,
everybody’s butt.
Each time I speak the word, I have to howl
and proclaim: ‘Violence and ruin!’
The word of the Lord has meant for me
insult, derision, all day long.
I used to say, ‘I will not think about him,
I will not speak in his name any more.’
Then there seemed to be a fire burning in my heart,
imprisoned in my bones.
The effort to restrain it wearied me,
I could not bear it.
f22f4d No.515701
Since I'm back at uni, I found a new church to go to during the semester. I got to say, it was a very beautiful church. There was no choir this Sunday, which was unfortunate but the congregation sounded great. Didn't really get much out of the sermon today, the priest didn't make much of a point. It was also nice that this Episcopal church actually had some younger folks instead of just a bunch of elderly people trying to be cool.
What confused me while walking in is that in front of a few pillars, there were a bank of candles with a crucified Jesus above one and an orthodox icon of Mary above the other one. At the end of the service, some people lit some of the candles. Can some one explain this? I've never seen this at other churches I've been to.
30957e No.515712
ffd64c No.515849
>>515712
>>515228
it was most certainly not the nicene-constantinopolitan creed creed that im used to
71040a No.515872
>Priest gave scathing homily about the Parable of the Husbandmen
>Started off by saying the parable isn't implying Christians are forbidden from owning property because everything belongs to God
>Condemns Antifa for fighting for dissolution of property rights and being godless commies
>Transitions into the section about the servants/son being killed
>Criticizes the Jews for killing the prophets, being generally unfaithful, and committing deicide
>Goes on about how the Jews and Muslims in the Holy Land are like the husbandmen, saying "this land belongs to us" when it really belongs to the God and the Church
>Pivots back to denouncing commies again
>Ends by quoting today's epistle and telling us to fight for our faith
>Watch, stand fast in the faith, be brave, be strong. (1 Cor. 9:13)
ABSOLUTELY BASED
2e5787 No.515882
a94760 No.515885
>tfw couple with a baby sits in front of you
Good feel. It didn't even cry that much.
c7ec1f No.515891
>>515701
Sounds like this is perhaps an Anglo-Catholic church.
>there were a bank of candles with a crucified Jesus above one and an orthodox icon of Mary above the other one. At the end of the service, some people lit some of the candles
They are used for prayer intentions. You can light a candle for someone or something that you intend to pray for. :)
c952cd No.515912
I didn't go because I am a piece of shit too embarrassed and unknowledgeable about Christ to feel like I belong.
I wish I could find a church where I could just slip in, observe/learn and slip out.
I am cognizant that this defeats one of the main purposes of going to church to start with.
Can anyone offer some advice ?
1543ce No.515920
>went to a latin mass yesterday
>went to a NO mass today
It's not even fair how dissimilar they are.
Even the attitude of the congregations are incredibly different.
f31894 No.515921
>>515912
Go to any Catholic Church and sit at the back. No one one will bother you, and Catholics don't have a "gotta know everyone here" mentality. Of course, if you go to a novus ordo you'll have to shake hands with the person next to you as part of the mass. They announce it as the "sign of peace". Shake hands, smile, maybe say "peace be with you", that's it - you won't be bothered again. It's kinda dumb, I know. Better yet, go to a Tridentine mass and people will leave you alone real good if you don't want to talk. It's one of the good things about being traditional Catholic. There's no forced socializing if you don't feel up to it.
Just follow everyone kneeling standing or sitting. Or you can just sit - people will assume you're new or you have a bad knee.
2e5787 No.515932
The Catholic mass is an ancient, venerable and formal institution.
They get down to the point, and their liturgy is not usually subject to change like at most protestant/reformed churches.
Of course, I have nothing against an honest protestant/reformed church service.
e1a988 No.515936
>>469548
Mater Dei over in Irving is the TLM parish for DFW. It's also close to St. Basil the Great if you're looking for an Eastern Catholic church.
You're always welcome to look East, but any final decision on that should be after much careful consideration. I'm a former Catholic myself, but I don't think you should become Orthodox unless you very specifically agree with our teachings on the Papacy and other matters. >>469548
22eca4 No.520731
>tfw going to life teen mass w/ bad music so i can go with my parents
I should really get them to find another mass but they're stuck in their boomer ways
ce9912 No.520736
>>515936
There's also St. Benedict's over in Fort Worth please go >>469548 if you can they are a relatively new parish and need people, Fr Pikus is very good and you will always learn something.
c85319 No.520747
>>469548
> attend the Orthodox mass to fulfill Sunday obligation
It doesn't.
9c2d89 No.525208
How was Mass today brothers?
7c0f85 No.525217
Pretty OK. Today, we have welcomed a group of pre-confirmees. We still have hippie music. Our priest held a good Sermon on Jacob's dream which was also its text.
e05e81 No.525236
Bad.
Second time ever at an east orthodox church with a family member and we left early because we were treated like outsiders and overheard a lot of shit talk.
"Look at them, they think they belong."
"They aren't one of us."
Coupled with stares and an overall sense of unease it was a bad time.
We stood near the back, didn't say a peep, tried to be as respectful as possible, and ended up leaving early because honestly?
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on if that's how you treat newcomers.
I'd rather burn in hell than have to console a loved one that was in tears again on the drive home because of how they were treated.
Orthodoxy will always be beautiful for me but the congregation are 99% shitty.
12284d No.525257
Went yesterday, Police came in to remove someone on the grounds who sounded like he was drunk moaning in pain. Probably a homeless person or drug addict never saw him he was in a side room, poor guy. Could have gone to mass again today but didn't, might start going more than just the Sunday obligation.
6945ae No.525260
Really good. Had Communion, and we finished the part in James right before the infamous second chapter. Can't wait till next week. Afterwards, the pastor, the assistant pastor, and I ate some Chipotle while we discussed how I could volunteer for the church. Really excited for this week and next.
>>525217
>jacob's dream
Anything that stood out to you?
2c2e33 No.525268
>>525236
Where did you go?
Can I see the website of the parish, too?
2c2e33 No.525273
>>525268
>>525236
By the way, I'm asking because my experience with Orthodoxy has been the polar opposite of this, and no, I don't look like a Slav or a Greek.
I've heard of two horror stories: 1 in Australia, but the person mistakenly went to a schismatic Genuine Orthodox parish; and 1 in the Bible Belt of the US, but, well, you know what to expect from those places. One of the parishes I went to there had a homily that was about praising Donald Trump. Pretty fucking horrifying, but the people were welcoming nonetheless.
1126d4 No.525274
Dunno, didn;t go bed was too comfy. Browsing this board and /pone
7c0f85 No.525279
>>525260
He was talking about the general situation Jacob was in as primer and mentioned how similar it was to the situation refugees are in nowadays in the sense that they basically JUSTED themselves in general. The topic as such was the blessing Jacob took from Esau and that God has confirmed it, i.e. looked over it although Jacob wasn't fair to Isaac. Also God's grace made it possible for the two brothers to shake each other's hands again.
The focus comes of course with the territory (Sola Gratia). What stood out for me was the presentation of God's love.
>>525274
moefag ! :^)
e05e81 No.525281
>>525268
Don't feel it would be good of me to name and shame directly.
I'm sure there are some good, nice people there but the openly spoken comments alone in the middle of mass… it was enough for us to never come back.
Let God judge them in the end.
I will say that it was an english speaking Russian orthodox church in northeast states.
1126d4 No.525286
>>525279
but i prefer weed and ponies.
>_<
2c2e33 No.525288
>>525281
>Don't feel it would be good of me to name and shame directly.
Dude, I'm not going to call the priest and call him a dick or something. But if there are parishes out there that are retarded, I need to learn about where they are and what tradition.
I already know that Romanians tend to be very superstitious, and have terrible seminars.
>I will say that it was an english speaking Russian orthodox church in northeast states.
Are you sure it was canonical, though?
ed3a0d No.525307
>>525236
>I'd rather burn in hell than have to console a loved one that was in tears again on the drive home because of how they were treated.
2c2e33 No.525312
>>525307
I'd rather somebody go to a faithful heterodox parish with a similitude of grace, than to an orthodox parish filled with hatred for God and for one's neighbor. It's nice and all that we have found the true faith; our job is to preserve it through our actions, and this is not what the people at that parish did. The burden is on them.
6945ae No.525318
>>525279
>how similar it was to the situation refugees are in nowadays in the sense that they basically JUSTED themselves in general.
I don't see it. A refugee men practicing a religion know for encouraging deception and immigration-based warfare doesn't seem morally equivalent to a bunch of famine-licked Semites and Canaanites.
>The topic as such was the blessing Jacob took from Esau and that God has confirmed it, i.e. looked over it although Jacob wasn't fair to Isaac.
Interesting, though I've heard that Jacob was partially punished through Laban's double crossing.
>>525286
>>_<
ed3a0d No.525352
>>525312
Have you tried talking to your bishop about this?
2c2e33 No.525355
d2897f No.525364
>>525281
>I will say that it was an english speaking Russian orthodox church in northeast states.
Sounds like you went to a Russian social club, and yes the meme is still real, especially in and around New York where there are a lot of ethnic Russians.
260c88 No.525366
Happy Feast of the Exultation! Today was pretty good, a reminder of taking up our own cross and being a light to lead others to the cross.
77dde6 No.525369
>>525208
Pretty good, I'm new to Catholicism and have been looking around. Today was a Maronite church and it was by far the best experience I've had so far.
260c88 No.525374
>>525236
>>525236
If a beliver thought that about someone else in the Church they should refrain from communion. And the priest should not commune them. See 1 Cor 11. Anglicans even have explicit instructions around that:
>…
>When the priest sees that there is hatred between members of the congregation, he shall speak privately to each of them, telling them that they may not receive Communion until they have forgiven each other. And if the person or persons on one side truly forgive the others and desire and promise to make up for their faults, but those on the other side refuse to forgive, the priest shall allow those who are penitent to come to Communion, but not those who are stubborn.
>In all such cases, the priest is required to notify the bishop, within fourteen days at the most, giving the reasons for refusing Communion.
BCP 409
>Therefore if any of you be a blasphemer of God, an hinderer or slanderer of his Word, an adulterer, or be in malice, or envy, or in any other grievous crime, repent you of your sins, or else come not to that holy Table; lest, after the taking of that holy Sacrament, the devil enter into you, as he entered into Judas, and fill you full of all iniquities, and bring you to destruction both of body and soul.
The 1662 (OG?) version.
92414e No.525466
>>469037
I didn't go today I recently re-converted again should I have gone? I don't feel sometimes my spirit wants to know more about God but I am always fearful of him
260c88 No.525468
4b1fa6 No.525469
I went to the 'contemporary' service today, which strangely happens earlier in the morning than the traditional service. I don't think I'll be going back to that service. I'm not much of a singer, but I don't much care to be sang at. I hope that makes sense.
>mfw the entire time
1736a3 No.525812
>>525469
Do you mean, it was a concert, not a worship service?
3a9302 No.525827
>>469037
>How was Mass/Church?
44d8d5 No.532581
>priest gave good sermon today
>had good catechism session with him too
>start attending Orthodox church couple weeks ago
>pray for a qt white girl to possibly make tradwife
>week or two later, two qt white girls that are in town for the college started attending
>this week met two more qt white girls for the first time at church
>got one of their numbers to be in touch about local orthodox youth fellowship
>I'm the only college age guy that isn't an altar boy at the church that's there regularly
Today was good.
763a7f No.532607
>young-ish priests deliver passionate sermons
>old priests deliver sober sermons
>usual parish had old priest
>like younger priests better
>all priests in my town have old priests
My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
763a7f No.532609
77dde6 No.532618
It was ok, there seems to be a new priest taking over and he's pretty stiff, his sermons seem to lack much any emotion as reads it off a script like an 8th grader. But I'm sure he's just nervous so I'll pray for him to be more confident
1736a3 No.532626
>went to a parish under the Church of Romania
>we did the kiss of peace
<"Christ is among us"
<"He is and forever shall be"
2a405c No.532627
>>469037
I got a blessed mango.
d50a35 No.532628
My Mass today was really great. Went to a different Church this week. The inside is a lot more modern than my old Church, but the priest and rituals were traditional. Saw some friends of mine there that I'd not thought were Catholic, talked to them for a bit, and met a nice girl from the university who remembered me for my beard. Really intelligent, might try and talk to her again next week. Too bad she's an atheist going because of family.
f0cfbf No.532645
Went to my parish church today due sister's preparation for Confirmation. Pastoral letter was read and there was big talking about "praying rosary on border" event that will take place in next saturaday. My heart rejoiced when I heard that 2000 people signed for this from my decanate alredy and that this whole thing is from laity and not clergy.
Also, it was first mass isnce ever that I did not have o confess that I masturbated (not that I didn't went to confession, I cannot keep my mouth shut. But I see progreess! Pray for me pls)
6945ae No.532646
>>532581
Dude nice! I'm still looking at my end.
>>532627
Nice!
>>532626
Amen!
Sermon was great today. Continued the preaching of the infamous James 2:14-27 passage, but this time, we concentrated on the practical application that James intended it to be.
4b1fa6 No.532659
I went to the oldest Methodist church in town and the pastor's wife, who does all the outreach stuff for the church spoke today. She made it all about herself and virtue-signaled the entire time. >mfw the whole time.
At least the organ sounded nice I suppose.
edb08c No.532702
>two different mass times combined into one
>way more people than my usual
>music felt way more powerful than usual because of the size
>everything goes smoothly despite the size
>relevant sermon about what the Catholic in Catholic Church actually means
Absolutely excellent. I also spotted a girl with the same hair styling/color as Christ-Chan, I thought you'd only see those in really small conservative towns. Looks excellent in real life.
b7d551 No.532746
>>532627
Blessed mango, best mango
d62b84 No.532772
>>525236
>go to Orthodox church
>get treated like shit
What did you expect from heretics?
33c4c4 No.532872
>"youth group meeting" after 11am mass
>show up to 8:30 and 11AM mass
>sermon is okay, younger pastor spoke about the importance of doing god's will even if someone initially denies it vs. going through the motions and being not genuine
>choir is fantastic
however
>youth group is sheltered valley girl/homeschooled beta types that went to catholic college or active duty military
>nothing in common
Thought this might have been an answer to my prayers for companionship but I guess I'll have to keep looking.
4c8c47 No.532880
>>532772
>>go to Orthodox church
>>get treated like shit
>What did you expect from heretics?
lol nice fruits
4a4e1e No.532885
Bros, is RCIA required if one wants to begome gadolig? I’m ready to become a Christian, but I don’t want to wait a year.
75836b No.532928
>>469037
I recently moved and am now within easy distance of a FSSP Latin Mass Church. Relatively large, relatively young congregation. 90% of women had chapel veils. Church held of procession for Our Lady of the Rosary. It was really good. I don't think I can go back to Novus Ordo after this.
13d4f6 No.532930
>>532885
RCIA doesn't take long. If you start now you'll be baptised by Easter.
My parish hasn't even started the RCIA program yet, there's just a short preliminary course first.
51d866 No.533035
I should start going. I've been to mass like three times in my life.
edb08c No.533120
>>532885
If you've been baptized you can shortcut some of the process, but you should go either way. The main reason to not attend is if you already know a ton about the Church, but it still helps ease you into the community and get to know people. They can accommodate for you if you're starting late, just speak to the priest about your interest and they'll find a place for you.
ecb5cc No.533265
Church in her left hand is a carbon copy of one near me.
But i went to a new church at 6pm (woke up late). Was atmospheric and beautiful, fits fall perfectly. Singing was absolutely angelic. And the lead singer was a qt redhead (like Christine-chan)
All this despite it being NO! Bell ringing too during the Eucharist prep
ecb5cc No.533266
>>525236
Lmao the culture club thing is true apparently
087af4 No.533267
The ethnic thing is a big problem in my mind. I know people who converted to Orthodoxy but I feel like I would be judged, if not openly then behind my back. Also I'm very right wing and maybe they'd think I was just LARPing as Orthodox, rather than agreeing with the theology. I don't want to be the one non-Serbian or non-Romanian everyone just tolerates.
2ad79a No.533270
>>533267
We will judge you if you kept the western lifestyle or whatever you want to call it. Other than that you will be fine.
459ec6 No.533289
>>525236
>Few months ago
>Discover that there's an Ukrainian-Catholic church nearby
>Normally attend Tridentine but heard that orthodox/eastern catholics have a good liturgy too
>Arrive 15mins early
>Someone there asks me where I'm from
>I ask for the priest to go to confession so that he can give me the Eucharist in good conscience
>Go to confession, he was serious
>The other guy who welcomed me hands me a booklet with phonetic text to follow along
>People give me a few stares but afterwards are very nice and welcome me
It was a nice day with nice people, I'm going back in a few weeks.
c3e387 No.533475
>First orthodox liturgy
>Have a qt explaining everything to me, I did my homework too so I can keep up
>Light a candle
>Feel bad because I can't receive communion
>Newborn gets a 40 day blessing
>Here comes antidoron
>"h-hey father"
>Go to the bookstore, browse icons and meet the presbytera
>"So who's your patron saint going to be, anon?"
>Get lunch afterwards where qt talks about how much she hates turks
Overall pretty gud. Qt's mom was a bit standoffish but I'm not ortho (yet) or greek so that's understandable I guess.
b05204 No.535454
Pretty good. During communion, a ray of sunshine suddenly illuminated the church, which was bretty awesome since it has been gray and rainy today.
8a44bb No.535467
>be in TLM parish
>it's before mass has begun
>man walking up the aisle, has a dog with him
>uh woah weird, okay I guess he's got a service ani–wait what
>dog has no service animal vest
>or collar or leash or anything
>man and dog are still walking up aisle entering the sanctuary (it's a recent conversion from a NO church we still don't have a proper rail and gate yet)
>is now walking to sacristy
>ushers have realized what's happening and are stopping him and the dog.
>man leaves the dog, walks back down the aisle to the doors
>One usher removes belt, uses it to muzzle dog
>as he is walking he shouts
>"Woe to the Church!"
>"Respect my husband!"
>Thankfully nothing else happened but I was on edge until the end of mass
Why the dog? Did he get us confused with muslims? Did he hope it would bite us? Was the dog his "husband"?
6945ae No.535493
Today's service was somber, a week after the suicide of a son of a family who goes to my church. Sermon was on Jesus walking on water during the Galilean storm, and how that shows that God directs the sorrow and suffering in our lives ultimately for His glory and our own good and that He will never abandon us during the toughest storms.
That sermon hit close to home, having been suicidal myself a decade ago and having to currently deal with a depressed brother.
There was a girl I wanted to ask out, but she wasn't there this morning. Oh well, she's usually helping her dad and mom set-up Wednesday night dinner.
e18a02 No.535497
>>535467
Never underestimate anti-catholics and their stupidity.
2ebdc2 No.535523
>>533475
>Get lunch afterwards where qt talks about how much she hates turks
tfw
71040a No.535524
>>535467
Wew. That must have been something to witness.
d50a35 No.535532
>>535467
>"Woe to the Church!"
>"Respect my Husband!"
I don't get it. Was the guy a gay who only heard that Christians (((hate))) them and mixed us up with Mohammedans?
c3e387 No.535649
>>535467
wew
>>535523
Honestly though I don't think it's gonna go anywhere. I feel like she gave me this weird shit test recently so I'm on edge. I just need to get through the catechumenate and hopefully make more friends.
b05204 No.538903
I enjoyed mass today.
wbu, /christian/?
4e119b No.538904
>>538903
First reading was pretty good. I think it was Isaiah 25.
366c36 No.538907
I was sick and I didn't go
22b97f No.538909
There was a baptism which was good but people clapped after it. I dunno how much that should bother me since it was before the liturgy of the Eucharist started.
6945ae No.538916
Great Sunday School study of church history, concentrating on 70's-500's. Sermon was on James 2:20-24 (again), but this time my pastor preached about the evidence of genuine faith.
Asked the girl out that I wanted to ask out. She said yes, though we'll have to wait a month after she returns from a vacation to Spain and Italy.
>mfw
6776ee No.538918
>>538916
>Asked the girl out that I wanted to ask out. She said yes, though we'll have to wait a month after she returns from a vacation to Spain and Italy.
Red flag, unless she's going with family
6945ae No.538920
>>538918
She is, and with my Pastor and his and some other families. My pastor is preaching in Italy on Reformation Day/Halloween.
d3fe48 No.538934
>>538909
That overwhelmed baby is qt.
7672b4 No.538939
Anyone have a list of the most common choir songs used in High Mass? The Kyrie Eleison was really nice today, lads
2c2e33 No.538955
>parish borrows a Catholic chapel
>Trisagion is sung in Latin
schism's over, lads
I've made a couple of threads on the different perspectives on justification between Orthodox, Catholics, and Protestants, and it turns out today's homily was relevant.
The readings of today were Timothy 3:8:-15 and Luke 8:5-15.
We are not saved by our works, rather, we are saved by our faith in Christ, our submissiveness to the grace of God, that allows us to "put on Christ", to let Him live in us, so that we can fulfill the Law not by our own works, but by the works of Christ working through us. If we have faith, but give no good works, then Christ does not dwell in us, and we are not of Him, but when we have saving faith, the works we do are not our own but Christ's. This is why we are saved by faith in priority, and by the works of Christ working through us (and themselves giving us more faith if we continue to love God), but all of this is a gift of grace from God.
Do Protestants and Catholics disagree with this?
1da53d No.538971
Mass was nice. Homily of the great gift that Eucharist is and how many reject it and will be punished for it with armies of God.
Also, after mass there was gathering of signatures under civil project to change abortion law i.e. ban eugenic abortion, which is 95% of abortions here (other two possible options are aborion that saves mother's life and rape). And by God, I am really sad at world. For here there is great debate over yearly 1000 killed children and society, the young people in majority even, is really want to put end to is. But rest of world? O tempora, o mores!
>>538955
We do but we would still say that merits that Christ working in us are "ours" not in the sense of some semi-pelagianism of sorts but that merits unworthy of heaven are meriting by Kindness of God, for they are united with merits of Christ.
>>538939
There are liturgical hymnal I think. You can probably go to choir and ask for some.
6945ae No.538974
>>538955
>Do Protestants…disagree with this?
Looks good to me, which is so strange, sometimes an Orthodox source says this, but other times another source rails against Sola Fide louder than the Pope around Oct. 31st. You Orthodox really make me think. Maybe We should meet each other sometime and go take back Constantinople or something.
22b97f No.538989
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>538934
Orthobros don't mess around with their infant baptisms.
47fce6 No.539032
>been reading several Catholic apologetics and the Catechism
>started praying the rosary
>cast aside the autism and go to my first mass in years
>confronted with blaring guitars and tambourines(?) the moment i set foot in the church
>shortly after notice a big ass projector to the left of the crucifix in the center, almost rivaling it in size
>guitars every 5 minutes
>lay people and women reading and talking, maybe even more than the pastor
>midway in a video ad for a youth program plays for way too long and feels phoned in
>did i mention guitars
Is this normal? Do I find another church in the area? Is this your mind of Novus Ordo?
22b97f No.539035
>>539032
That definitely sounds like one of the worst cases of the NO mindset. In general, the more suburban a parish the worse it will be. Try to find a traditional Latin mass or a parish that is more rural or more urban.
7672b4 No.539040
>>538989
Post the funny webm
7672b4 No.539041
>>539032
Wtf
>Tfw my diocese holds High Mass and Latin Mass throughout the week with traditional choir and historical building
Am I just lucky?
47fce6 No.539067
>>539035
Yeah my parish is in the dead center of a New York suburban neighborhood, I'll admit I didn't have the highest hopes for it initially. Also, the closest TLM is about an hour away but I'd probably make the trip every now and then for the experience, just not weekly.
22b97f No.539084
>>539067
>Also, the closest TLM is about an hour away but I'd probably make the trip every now and then for the experience, just not weekly
Yeah my nearest TLM at a non-schismatic church is about 2 hours away and I go to one every month or two.
2b1c0e No.539101
Based priest this Sunday talked about Jews and protties during his homily.
71040a No.539108
>Middle of service
>Dog walks up to the front of the church
>It almost comes into the altar before people near the front stop it
>They lead it back to the owner, a woman near the back
>We thought the woman brought her dog into the Church because she was blind (service dogs are allowed)
>It turns out she just brought her dog to Church without a leash
W H Y
H
Y
2c2e33 No.539111
>>539108
"Let the little doggos come to me"
2c2e33 No.539112
>>539101
What'd he say exactly?
What denomination are you?
be77d2 No.539113
>>539108
Strange how the same thing happened to another anon last week that you replied to …
>>535467
>>535524
71040a No.539117
>>539113
I know, it's an insane coincidence! Fortunately, just a silly dog lover for us and not a madman like the other anon had to deal with.
4c8c47 No.539148
Father keeps going full redpill. I think something is going on. Also he kept showing us these memes lmao. I pray that God will keep him alive long enough to finish his magnum opus.
471fa8 No.539222
My family keeps on taking me to a Church of God and I hate the music and just the way people dress and act. I've seen rednecks look more respectful in Church. Want to go to somewhere more traditional but can't drive
682b00 No.539257
Yesterday mass was quite good: the homily was about how we cannot compromise the Love of God for the love of worldly things, and that Christ was never politically correct. I finally found a good parish in London!
eae5c0 No.539264
>>539108
>It turns out she just brought her dog to Church without a leash
>without a leash
2b1c0e No.539322
>>539112
Roman Catholic. The Gospel reading was Matthew 22:1-14.
>And Jesus answering, spoke again in parables to them, saying:
>2 The kingdom of heaven is likened to a king, who made a marriage for his son.
>3 And he sent his servants, to call them that were invited to the marriage; and they would not come.
>4 Again he sent other servants, saying: Tell them that were invited, Behold, I have prepared my dinner; my calves and fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come ye to the marriage.
>5 But they neglected, and went their own ways, one to his farm, and another to his merchandise.
>6 And the rest laid hands on his servants, and having treated them contumeliously, put them to death.
>7 But when the king had heard of it, he was angry, and sending his armies, he destroyed those murderers, and burnt their city.
>8 Then he saith to his servants: The marriage indeed is ready; but they that were invited were not worthy.
>9 Go ye therefore into the highways; and as many as you shall find, call to the marriage.
>10 And his servants going forth into the ways, gathered together all that they found, both bad and good: and the marriage was filled with guests.
>11 And the king went in to see the guests: and he saw there a man who had not on a wedding garment.
>12 And he saith to him: Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? But he was silent.
>13 Then the king said to the waiters: Bind his hands and feet, and cast him into the exterior darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
>14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
The priest charitably compared the first invited guests, who did not show up, to Jews. Those that came to the wedding without their wedding garment are Protestants, who do not have good works. Funny also, that he noted it interesting that the parable ends with the word "chosen." He did not elaborate, but I think I got his drift.
1736a3 No.539370
>>539322
tbh, what I got from Orthodox homilies was that anyone who is invited to the banquet of the Eucharist without sufficient preparation (having confessed, being on time for the liturgy, having fasted since the previous evening) has not put their wedding garment on, and so drinks and eat to their condamnation.
Your priest is right, though - the Jews are most definitely those who were first invited but didn't show up, and my own priest has said that. But as for those without wedding garments being Protestants, well, I'll say that it's not my or anybody's job to decide whether heretics are or are not in good standing with the Lord. Clearly they have faith in Him, and wish to be counted among His flock, so it's not like I can decide whether the Lord grants that or not.
2b1c0e No.539379
>>539370
Indeed. I agree with you. Though I am pretty astounded that my priest would make these points.
6776ee No.539394
63cccd No.539428
>>525364
Is this true for Greeks? There's a large Greek Orthodox church near me but a less overtly ethnic one a little further away. Thinking about going but can't decide between the two.
Greek one: http://www.dormitionchurch.org/
Normal one: http://hrocboston.org/
Which one should I try out, bros?
1736a3 No.539431
>>539428
It really just depends from parish to parish. Some are ethnic clubs and some are full of zeal for the gospel.
If you have multiple parishes around you, it's best to check them all.
Unfortunately, Catholics have the same problem - but instead of the poisoned parishes being nationalists, they're liberal modernists instead.
I've never been to a Bulgarian parish, and I have been to several Greek parishes - some were really good and one was very bad.
d3d20c No.539488
>>539431
The names of literally EVERYONE associated with the church are Greek so maybe I'd be best trying my luck elsewhere
1736a3 No.539498
>>539488
Not necessarily. Just give it a go and you'll see.
The other church you listed is Bulgarian, and as I said, I don't know about those. Maybe check that one first if you're worried about the Greek one.
794c46 No.539940
How do I even go to the church alone properly? My mother goes to a spiritism church and I've gone there with her. It's basically Christian but believing in reincarnation and multiple worlds (which aren't meant to ever know each other so probably in different universes). They purify water and people too. It's a nice church but it's more philosophical than studying the bible and the word of God. Most of the sermons are about how the spiritual world is or how one should behave to avoid after death problems and what God wants from you. To be honest they aren't bad at it either but it's very chewed down to the point where you don't even mention (or say which) part of the Bible they got that from(even though you can recognize it some times).
I'm 19 and sincerely I'm not looking to make tons of friends and stuff but I feel like it would be weird to go there alone, stay and leave without ever talking to anyone ever.
I like San Anderson even though I've seen videos where I think he misinterpreted the Bible. I'm pretty strict too.
1736a3 No.539942
>>539940
What?! What's the name of that church? That's not even Christian at this point. Reincarnation? The spirit world? These things are anathema to Christianity in any way, shape, or form.
Go somewhere else. Anywhere else. Orthodox, Catholic, or Protestant. Even Pastor Anderson's church would be better than this nonsense. The "church" you're going to is no better than a Mormon temple or a Muslim mosque. They do not believe in Jesus Christ.
fce044 No.539944
>>539940
> It's basically Christian but believing in reincarnation and multiple worlds (which aren't meant to ever know each other so probably in different universes)
Here's some bible verses for you
Matthew 19:28
>And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or fields for the sake of My name will receive a hundredfold and will inherit eternal life.
794c46 No.539964
>>539942
>>539944
They do believe in Christ. They do not do rituals or possessions. Also, I said my mother goes. I went there when I was younger, haven't gone in about 5 years. I'm looking for a new church. Something more focused around the Bible and its teachings.
517b75 No.543716
I've been seeing more girls at church as of late. How does one actually start talking to them? I just see a few cuties at church from time to time. I'm getting to know the greeters at the front door better since I've been going to Mass every Sunday for about four months now. I just don't know how to…start talking to the cute girls at church. Maybe I'll have my chance when we do the church fair later this month or next month.
517b75 No.543717
>>480250
Non-denom is generally bad and can be near-atheistic or even agnostic-oriented depending on the actual non-denom group. Be careful.
5750d7 No.546338
Rough. Our pastor had a big service planned for Reformation Sunday, but there were a lot of screw ups in the service. I honestly just kinda feel bad for him, he was really trying.
5750d7 No.546342
>>539940
>believing in reincarnation and multiple worlds (which aren't meant to ever know each other so probably in different universes
That isn't even gangrenous doctrine at that point, that's just cancer.
c75771 No.546346
>>546338
>a lot of screw ups in the service
such as?
e7697a No.546353
>>469037
The girl I liked wasn't there, so it was much easier to concentrate on the mass.
5750d7 No.546375
>>546346
Getting some of the hymns mixed up, the organ started blaring incredibly loud in the middle of A Mighty Fortress, stuff like that. It really is a shame, the sermon was good.
f15faa No.546418
>>469037
It was great, I really enjoyed it. The sermon on why we sing hymns was excellent. My church recently purchased new land and is building a new location (The repairs at our current building are too much. The building is historic and protecting, so nothing meaniningful can be done for repair cheaply), so that's going well.
7fc8fe No.546419
955e6d No.546448
Pretty crazy day. One of the young altarboys had a seizure and passed out right after the homily. We had to carry him to a couch in the back of the church so he could rest. His name is Johann, please keep him in your prayers.
132639 No.546451
>>546448
Definitely going to be praying for him.
955e6d No.546468
>>546451
Thank you. He seemed to have recovered when the Liturgy was over, but it could easily be a symptom of something serious. Lord have mercy on him.
0ac185 No.546518
father was ranting about the jews again lol. he was so heated he delivered 2 homilies today. God bless him
c75771 No.546521
>>546518
what state are you from?
b075e8 No.546564
>>543716
i have the same question, someone please answer
9241c9 No.546579
>>546375
You did a mighty fortress today too? Wow. Anyway, sermon was in contrast between shape and narcissistic love, using example of old pets in animal shelters and old people in homes. Pretty hard stuff - how we use rather than love others.
9241c9 No.546581
>>539940
I don't think this is in keeping with an orthodox understanding of the faith anon. Start going to a nice, normal church.
569b30 No.546583
>>538974
>Looks good to me
Why in the world does that look good to you? Did "our submissiveness to the grace of God" and "the works of Christ working through us" not set off alarms? You need to read the reformers, lad
ea2293 No.546584
How do I learn to understand what is being said in the Latin mass? I try reading the missal but they skip around and I get lost less than halfway into the mass and it makes me feel like I'm being left out of a joke that literally everyone else is in on. I love the conservative sermons but it's important to me to understand what is being said (sung) and doesnt help that this church along with every other catholic church I've been to since converting has been unwelcoming. Instead of thinking about Christs sacrifice I wonder what the hell am I doing here? Everyone has 5 kids and I am a single 20 something convert, couldn't be more out of place. sorry for the blog
728128 No.546587
>tfw almost clapped today at mass
189253 No.546589
>>546587
>tfw put my hands together twice causing sound before quickly stopping
2a850e No.546596
>>546587
Stay strong brother.
>>546584
You're young enough you could probably learn by becoming an altar server.
fa686a No.546602
Going to churches lately trying to find one that is good for me, I feel like I met the gates of hell today.
Today's visit was above the average novus ordo tier bullcrap. So the people were dancing on front of the stadium and two of them suddenly went of the rest of the choir. Two women, a adolescent started suddenly going left and right with her trunk and mostly dancing in place, its difficult to describe. The other started randomly circling in places, and got knocked out and laid in the floor. People covered her in a black sheet and let the sermon continue until she recovered.
I was so mystified I forgot to scream at the Priest for saying he was selling bread some time afterwards.
I'll seek repentance for completely allowing the Priest to break the law of god and start commerce in his Temple, and after that, Holy Spirit(and posters in this board) help me understand what just happened.
728128 No.546625
>>546589
>tfw last week the same thing happened to me
They have kids going up for confirmation enrolment so there is clapping.
9241c9 No.546629
fa686a No.546653
>>546629
They were Pentecoastals.
5750d7 No.546680
>>546579
Well, it's Reformation Sunday! What other hymn is there to sing?
Sounds like a good sermon. Kind of reminds me of that one Buddha quote about the difference between like and love.