No.42714
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No.42718
>>42714
Hello my dear British anonymity, the truth is that we are not worried about the invasion of these countries, since we are invaded by Cuba, Russia and China, the last two countries with big economic interests.
the truth I hope to get my university degree to go live in Argentina forever
>and you tell me how are these prepared for the brexit and the Muslim invasion
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No.42719
>>42718
I just hope that you bros are OK. I know that you guys are in a shitty situation right now with the hyper inflation and the economic sanctions that have been imposed by the us. The United states is also trying to fuck with the sandinista government of niagara I just am sceptical that a united states intervention would go as you expect it to be. considering the state of post war Iraq and Libya with ISIS and open slave markets and all. these counters have had there oil reserves strip form them and there republican government have disintegrated into radical Islamic theocracy and having the standards of living plummet.
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No.42720
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No.42721
>>42718
>the truth I hope to get my university degree to go live in Argentina forever
Man, you should practice a little bit more your writing abilities. Maybe is just me, or maybe what I write is at the same shittier level of that what you wrote. But I mean, if you read your sentence it appears that was written by a kid with down syndrome.
Also, I bet that op is a proxyfag.
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No.42723
>>42719
We are not doing OK and we are not your bros faggot.
We would welcome and help the US marines burn alive as many chavistas as possible.
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No.42730
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No.42747
>>42719
> these counters have had there oil reserves strip form them and there republican government have disintegrated into radical Islamic theocracy and having the standards of living plummet.
we might be brown but we're not sandniggers alright? get that straight.
the only possible (((ISIS))) kind of scenario that would happen here is the ELN magically taking over the country ala ISIS, but they're all vine swining monkeys with aks and keep to their jungles/hills.
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No.42753
Mira gringo español tu como que eres marico de verdad
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No.42776
>>42721
>Man, you should practice a little bit more your writing abilities "a little bit more". Maybe is "it's" just me, or maybe what I write "my English" is at the same shittier "shitty" level of that "as" what you wrote. But I mean, if you read your sentence it appears that "looks like it" was written by a kid with down syndrome.
>Also, I bet that op is a proxyfag.
De nada.
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No.42810
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No.42824
>>42719
what kind of fucking retard are you
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No.42853
es demasiado facil sacarle replies a ustedes
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No.42883
>>42718
Holy shit, that english is… Don't even try, also stop replying to venezuelan proxymaricos.
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No.42884
>>42719
Go back to >>>/leftypol/ you braindead faggot.
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No.42887
>>42884
Verga como te gusta mamar bocho, dejen de bumpear esto.
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No.42889
Winning a war against Venezuela isn't that hard at the moment. Be it by letting US do its thing quickly, be it an attrition war with Brazil (alongside Colombia) and slow territory domination (even though we, alone, right now, are very vulnerable from air strikes; fuck social-democrat emasculating ruling).
Problem is… What should happen next?
We don't want long term trouble and resentment with Venezuelans. The fear of resentment with Paraguay ended up with Brazil giving away tons of free electricity for them and the submersion of Sete Quedas (Saltos del Guairá) - probably one of the greatest treasures nature gave to mankind, now gone to avoid future wars.
We don't want Northern South America to become another Middle East. And we know the American deep state (as well as yours, OP, and the secret court kikes) are warmongers who would do anything for profit in such conflicts, trying to extend wars forever; we are also aware globalists need those conflicts for their immigration and chaos madness, so they can destruct local culture. We have our own Social-Democrats, who are our political establishment since the Military Regime ended, to be worried about; they would profit from an extended conflict (just like general kikery always do). We have our own internal cancer to sabotage us and so we should deal with Venezuela while thinking about them. Bolsonaro is not going to be forever in presidency, we don't even know if he's not dying from a sudden untreatable infection in his belly where he was stabbed. He tries to be what he sees as virtuous the most as he can and once said he wouldn't be running another time. I'm afraid he will stick with what he said and, seriously, the man looks like he aged a decade in a single year. I don't know if he will have the stamina to rule for 8 years among so much problem (our internal problems are already way bigger than a war would be).
So we have three options as I can see it:
-Win the war violently, make it like we did with Paraguay but with Bolivarianists. All the male population who would insist to support Bolivarianism and not surrender should be exterminated. It's a hard thing to do these days… It would take decades to get to an ending to the conflict. And we should be sure Venezuelans submits completely to us, just like US did to Japan and Germany. It's an ugly scenario, to be honest, and we all get vulnerable to jewry's chaotic plans.
-Keep assassinating, capturing and torturing the Bolivarian leaders, just like we did in our Military Regime, and without any large scale war. Brazil killed and tortured like 300 commies in 20 years of the regime. If you think we killed by the thousands or something, that's just a leftist meme. Brazil was the most peaceful country against Communist revolutionaries, and that was our mistake. Well… We could try to clean Venezuelan universities and schools alongside our Venezuelans allies. I don't know how to deal with any resentment for that, it wouldn't be a war resentment, but it would cause trouble in the future. The resentment would be a problem for Venezuelans to deal with.
And the third and the best scenario:
-Convince the Venezuelan Military it is suicide to don't overthrow the current regime and they should do that as fast as they can, so they keep Venezuelan sovereignty and unity. I don't know the odds of it happening, /arepa/ could tell us about that. I really hope it happens that way and I know under Bolsonaro our military would be happy to rebuild Venezuela and free it from any chaos, in a peace mission.
What I DON'T WANT IT TO HAPPEN:
-Create a war where we don't put all of our effort in ending it, creating unending chaotic conflict that would end with a lot of innocent lives and would cause mass immigration, bigger than the current one, and the strengthening of dangerous warlords and military groups.
-Create and invest in Venezuelan rebels, that would bring chaos and a civil war, so bad as the scenario just above.
-Transform Venezuela in a new Cuba, for indefinite time, due to sanctions. That would be cruel and is a thing that doesn't seem to work.
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No.42891
>>42889
>so they can destruct local culture
And genetics as well. I forgot to write about that.
And there would be Chinese and Russian interests, I'm not sure if I'm oversimplifying it because I think they wouldn't dare to do anything with USA by our side (not only situationally about Venezuela, but we got actual defensive treaties that include most of the countries in our continent).
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No.42893
As a Brazilian,I can say that fighting Venezuela isn't very profittable to us.Brazil also never went to a war since WW2 and even though support for Bolsonaro and against Maduro is higher than ever,we don't support war that much.Also,Brazilian army is underfunded and is crap compared to Russian-backed Venezuelan army.
What we can do is to use a joint navy and do a Blockade on them,not letting any ship pass without a check.Do you think Venezuela isn't receiving weapons,drugs and money from outside?And do you think they come from official ships?
BTW,Roraima is full with Venezuelans,a war would just worse the immigration problem there 10X,and we aren't cucked europeans,we don't say "welcome migrants" like you.
The sole reason we accepted many African migrants to this day is because they didn't make any trouble unlike in Europe,but the Venezuelans who did were properly kicked out by our own citizens in the frontier.If we enter in a war,the hate against Venezuelans would rise,after all,we don't think you are only victims.
You had the opportunity to not vote on Chávez,and as far as I know,protests against him existed back in 2006.You deserve Chávez and Maduro just as much as we deserved Lula for or own stupidity,the difference is that we were fast enough to avoid becoming you(we would become a bigger Venezuela if Haddad had won the elections).
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No.42900
>>42893
Don't be mean. The Chavistas did their best to eternalize themselves in power. Be a good Christian and give a chance for Venezuelans to repent and fix their own country. Right now, they can't do shit alone, even if regretful.
I'm up for work camps in Roraima (extending it to inside their border in the future) and I bet the immigrants are worth way more than the vegetal coal they could produce and sugar cane they can cut. The ones in Roraima use to say they would return if Maduro were to fall. I bet it's true as long as they are kept in Roraima and don't go south.
Plus, there's the global movement sponsoring immigration and chaos. You know very well about the NGOs bringing and moving Haitians and Venezuelans over our country. You also know their situation is partly our fault since we are electing social-democrats for the last 30 years and elected Lula, keeping PT in power for 13 years. So they didn't have just Cuba's participation in their disgrace, but Brazil's as well. The good Venezuelans have the same enemies as us.
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No.42907
>>42714
literally nothing will happen Muslimbro, Bolsonaro is another cuck that won't do anything.
Now dont get me wrong, i would be very happy if we get nuked, but nothing will happen except the same talking & negotiation shit while we get harvested by China and Russia.
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No.42915
>>42907
Our VP, General Mourão, has already said that the next peace mission will be in Venezuela.
Tenga fe, hermano!
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No.42918
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No.42921
>>42915
dejen de darnos falsa esperanza
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No.42939
>>42921
This.
But, really, the Bolivar state is up for grabs right now, shits full of gold and fags larping the wild west gold fever and all. Just roll in, kill all the brown larping fags and take the gold. EZ as 123.
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No.42940
>>42714
Taking aside the fact that you're just another proxy faggot. The answer is no, no one is afraid of a fictional invasion from any of those countries. For starters, no one's gonna do shit for us, and it's not their fault, this isn't the sixties, or the eighties, hell this isn't the 00' and it just so happens that none of those countries are as "balls to the wall" as the countries we got already deep in our asses (China, Russia). At most, the only thing those countries can and will do is keep choking the current government with economic embargos and shit. The downside being that those economic embargos hit us (normal people) harder than they hit the higher ups; so get ready for another 💯 years of socialism. Also, the US couldn't even get Castro out of Cuba, and he's literally steps away from American territory, and they don't even have a conventional army. You think they would invade Venezuela, who has, in top of support from great powers who would love to make the US and any countries aligned with them look bad, a conventional army? Hell fucking no, that's just wasting money, unless Maduro goes on a Hitler spree and manages to invade and conquer Guyana and proceeds to try to take on Colombia or some really stupid - not gonna happen in a million years - shit like that, no one's doing shit.
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No.42965
>>42940
Literally this.
Based.
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No.42968
>>42719
Weak bait
2/7 make me reply
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No.42978
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No.43018
>>42893
>enezuela isn't very profittable to us.Brazil also never went to a war since WW2 and even though support for Bolsonaro and against Maduro is higher than ever,we don't support war that much.Also,Brazilian army is underfunded and is crap compared to Russian-backed Venezuelan army.
Believe me my dear Brazilian friend, his army is more than enough to make a REKT the size of Sambodromo to our armed forces, shit, even the Colombian army rapes us in a scandalous way
Yes, it's true, we have weapons financed by Russia but we have not had and we will never have culture of war, we do not have to maintain the Suhkoi, we have tanks of the XX century, the airstrips of the planes are lacking maintenance, you bombard them our three refineries and a basic troop of 300 well-armed men on each border is more than enough to get to Caracas. The military here (especially the land forces) only serve to extort the common citizen .. To give you an example, investigate what the ELN has done in the mining arches of Guayana and you will realize that we can not even with a paramilitary group of old data.
We can resist the Vietnam style but the Venezuelan military at the first of the ambushes are surrendering.
PD: You had the war of the Triple Alliance or the war against the Uruguayans in your history … the Colombians have spent more than half a century in fucking their own guerrilla … we have nothing of experience in war.
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No.43099
>>42719
You came to the wrong place fella, everybody here likes sucking USofA's cock, what you say is true, but these faggots like to believe that USA is some kind of holy knight in white armor that saves the poor from their evil oppressors, when in reality they are just another great power that only does things that give them more power.
To answer your question, i'm not worried about such an invasion, because none of those countries seem to have any reason to invade.
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No.43102
>>43099
>t. yohan
Most of the people here knows that USA isn't that holy knight that you're talking about, but everyone prefers to be the playground of USA than China or Russia.
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No.43110
>>43102
Yeah but what he says is right, USA doesn't give a fuck about this shithole, they'll just put some puppet government to make sure that all the oil goes to them and then get the fuck out of here, and even if the country goes to shit again (and it probably will) they won't care, as long as they keep getting that sweet oil, being a US puppet doesn't guarantee a prosperous country.
Si pero lo que dice es cierto, a USA no le importa una mierda esta vaina, solo pondrán alguna marioneta o algo similar para asegurarse de chupar el petroleo relajados y se iran pal coño, y si el país se va a la mierda otra vez (probablemente lo hará) no les importa, siempre y cuando sigan recibiendo su petroleo diario, ser una marioneta de USA no significa que seas un país prospero.
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No.43114
>>43110
>being a US puppet doesn't guarantee a prosperous country
Except it kind of does, every country in this sphere that has aligned with the US has become prosperous or at least somewhat prosperous, and worst case scenario more prosperous than our current Venezuela.
Say what you want, but becoming friends with the biggest, and richest kid in the hood is always a good thing. You get free advertising from them, just like they've been doing with Colombia, you get free support from them via certain agreements, get to participate in meetings and agreements where the biggest and most prosperous countries in the world participate.
I don't like the USA, in fact, I hate foreigners and I hate having to immigrate because I fucking hate having to deal with gringos, or Colombians, or Argentinians, or Chileans. But you can't deny that being an ally to USA, brings a LOT more benefits than being an ally to China or Russia, especially because they don't even hide their true interests and will, right in your face, take as much advantage from your country as possible, whereas the USA since it's so heavily influenced by globalists and all that shit, they actually somewhat care about not being total dicks to your face.
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No.43115
>>43110
>they'll just put some puppet government to make sure that all the oil goes to them
Thats what Cuba, Russia and China are doing right now, but they don't care if Venezuela is a shithole, in fact, they prefer it that way. Also, a lot of oil goes to USA even right now.
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No.43117
>>43114
Yeah but none of those was invaded, and none of those got a puppet forcibly put on the government, they just get along with the US to avoid any repercussions (like getting sanctioned, because trust me, sanctions actually affect the economy) but they are still independent and with an independent government, their ties with USA are the same as any other country, meanwhile look at every country that was invaded by the US, they all are complete garbage nowadays.
>>43115
And how does that make it better? It's like stopping to eat your shit just to eat someone else's shit, in the end you get nothing, the only way to make Venezuela a prosperous country is to do it ourselves, not by depending on foreign (((help))).
Also, you talk as if i was denying that Cuba or China are fucking us too, but that isn't the case, i don't want Venezuela to be a puppet of anyone else, be it China, USA or some fucking island with three times less population filled with niggers.
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No.43122
>>43117
At this there is nothing we can do without foreign help, because we don't have weapons, in fact, we don't have anything. Maduro (or whoever from chavismo who gets his position) will stay there until the military wants more power and do a military coup or when some foreign country decides to do something here, but we don't any other realistic option.
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No.43123
>dos marrones argumentando en ingles
tan pasao e' maricos ustedes
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No.43125
>>43123
>El mismomarico que cree que en todos los hilos hay solo 2 personas
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