/animu/ - Anime & Otaku Culture

>>9436

>dragon half

Mi negro, I still need to read the manga.

<Call Me Tonight

<Cosmo Police Justy

>>9494

>>9495

And, I forgot about Devil Hunter Yohko, which should have been a much longer series than 5 episodes.

Some great looking stuff in this thread. Time to watch.

Project A-Ko is pretty much my go to movie whenever I'm in a shit mood and need some cheering up.

>>9436

Superior taste. tbh I think Dragon Half is the funniest anime ever created. Shame the creator got sued for Zelda parodies.

Are you sad you'll never own a decent Mink, Ryoko, Lina, or Deedlit figurine? I am. I am really depressed. I spend hundreds for cute Ryoko figure.

>>9737

What else could have happened

>>9866

clearly the cartel is behind the disappearance of the thread

>>9901

I've got the entire series on my hard drive, just waiting for a good moment to watch it. I love the 90s visual aesthetic of the show.

>>9862

I want a fully adapted series of Dragon Half, not just OVAs.

>>9924

>Akira

It's not like the manga is remember for its storytelling either, Otomo is definitely style over substance. It's also not like there's any reason the movie should've been trying to adapt 1:1, it's obviously impossible to take a 2000-page manga and compact it into one movie cohesively. As it stands it mixed the order around where it pleased and managed to end up with something satisfying enough to not detract from how gorgeous it was visually.

>googling Ghost in the Shell brings up that awful Scarlett Johansson travesty

Fortunately, Hollywood turd-of-the-months are always forgotten within a couple years unless they keep milking them.

>>9915

Not gonna happen. Sadly. Which is god damn shame cause it ages like fine wine and is probably one of the funniest mangas out there. Watch the commentary if it's still out there. I can upload if you want. People were really upset there wasn't more and the creator response was legal issues for link. Nintendo shut that shit down

>>9931

Nintendo is called the Disney of videogames for a reason.

>>9931

Seven Seas translated the manga and its sequel Dragon Half Z.

>>9737

>Faggot OP limited thread to pre-2000s anime

>In the previous thread we were talking about anime up to 2006

We need to fucking recognize that time is fucking passing.

>>9924

If I see another normalfag talking about how something is overrated I'mma choke a bitch

>>>/reddit/

>>9973

>2006

>old

Kill yourself

>>10030

But I've seen "pre-2000s anime" threads for a fucking decade. Discussion of pre-2000s in itself is no problem, but that's become the defacto definition of "old" anime, despite plenty of time passing since that definition being created.

>>10069

Arabs and Italians really love Tiger Mask.

>>10078

It's a number that roughly represents a historical change in animation style, common genres, and content. It can also serve as easy distinction between anime the thread audiences general age-group recognizes as old and something they can remember coming out when they were already adults. It's a pretty good cut-off.

Sorry laddy, but 2008 anime is not 'old.' It won't be for another 15 years or so. Until then, it remains more in the realm of nostalgic and doesn't quite fit the thread.

i ended up interested in "highschool Kimengumi"

it was a gag anime that was supposed to be very popular around the time Urusei Yatsura.

Mostly because some anon used to post the OPs & EDs during the first GG exodus.

i could only find a french dubbing of the show so yeah…

>>10333

>i could only find a french dubbing of the show so yeah…

Weird, I only found raws on AB and Nyaa. So just watch the movie (this is the only thing that is translated). The french dubs are awful by the way.

>>10313

Holy shit, I started rewatching my Chinese bootleg copy of this just last night. The last time I watched it was before I learned moon and had to rely on subs that were barely passable for the first 2/3 of the series and google translate tier for the rest. Last night, I watched it with subs turned off, and needless to say, I'm enjoying it a lot more this time around.

>>10344

why is it so lewd?

>>10313

Classic. The films are God tier too.

>>9923

>Angel Cop

This was pure ham and cheese but I loved it.

>>10344

> Miss Machiko

Those kids have good taste.

>>9939

No, it's from something far more retarded.

>>10313

I think I'm the only person who enjoyed the first, more episodic arc than the Kyoto arc of Kenshin. And RIP Watsuki.

>>9896

You can leave >>>/leftypol/

>>9939

It's from Gundam Stardust Memory. Good show.

>>10591

Man, I fucking love the first opening song for Stardust Memory. That sexy saxophone.

>>10591

Nigger, Stardust Memory is trash. Every character in it acts like a goddamn retard the whole time. All it has going for it is the animation.

>>10593

Also the music was it's only strong point.

>"HD version" with shittier saxophone and out of place sound effects

Disgusting

>>10602

>>>/reddit/

filtered

>>10603

Nice argument, I'm sorry you think show that shoehorns in a love triangle at the last minute with flimsy foreshadowing and tries to make a murderer like Gato look cool is good.

>>>/cuckchan/

>>10602

My bad. I got lazy and just picked the first result on youtube.

Also, speaking of openings. Why is the opening credits to Dirty Pair: Project Eden so damn cool.

>>10438

I've been really itching to watch that after reading some of the comics and embed related, do you have a link to it by any chance?

>>10775

I used a private tracker for uncut and best quality, don't know the public trackers situation tho.

>>10438

OMG so many feels. I loved this film as a kid. Can't believe it never got a dvd release or bluray.

Posting opening and ending because they're so lovely.

>>10837

Vampire Princess Miyu OVA looks pretty interesting, added to backlog. What's Night Crawler? Can't seem to find it.

>By the girl who did Inu yasha, right?

Yeah, Inuyasha, Ranma, Yatsura - lot's of stuff.

>>10879

>>10861

What totally forgot that movie existed. It's classic. Nemo flying around on his bed with his little squirrel companion. I had a girly moment, give me a break.

>>10975

You are not helping your case

>>10975

I came here to call you a fag

>>11044

Looks like fujoshit tbh

>>11164

I think the writer was heavily influenced by original fujoshit, Anne Rice. kek. The best episodes were the ones when he went out killing other supernatural beings. The little demon kid one and mourning mother was very rememberable. The final episode is great too, although I wish they didn't pussy out and follow up on it.

>>11164

Many years later, I watched Shiki (which is better despite the character designs) and very, very nostalgia pleased to hear Buck Tick do the ending. Nightwalker is a mediocre show honestly, only a few episodes are worth watching.

>>11077

>Having reached the second part of blue comet spt layzner, I just feel the whole show took a huge nose dive.

I'm only about a third of the way through the series and was hoping it would get better towards the end. I guess I'll give up on it because I'm not enjoying it that much anyway. All the characters feel so bland and shallow.

>>11228

Could you please continue to keep us up to date about what all your friends on reddit are thinking?

>>11542

what?

>>11542

Nice projection >>>/reddit/

>>9537

Just watched this, very good indeed.

bump

>>16976

Kenichi Sonada's character designs ruled the 80s.

what's your reaction to the fact that Evangelion first came out in 1995?

>>17505

god this place is becoming reddit fast

>>17505

Would have said 97, but that seems about right.

>>10438

Found a decent link if anyone wants to watch it.

https://fantasyanime.com/anime/little-nemo-sub

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>>17909

Nice find anon, will post impressions later

I watched Kanashimi No Belladona the other day - it blew me away.

I just watched Kyou Kara Ore Wa and Blue Seed, I felt that the former was overrated but the latter was great. Probably going to watch Jigoku Sensei next.

>>19394

>Blue Seed

Have you seen the OVA yet?

>>20285

You should watch Lupin III: The Secret of Mamo when you get the chance. It's much better than Castle of Cagliostro in my opinion.

so far i vae been unable to find the "Maps" Ovas (the 80s and the 90s ones)

>>20362

Since this is a thread for pre-2000 anime, where's a good place to start for somebody looking to get into Lupin? I cought part of one episode of the newer series on adult swim/nu-toonami one night and liked the characters. But there's just so much of this shit, do I just start at the absolute beginning with the oldest shows?

>>20382

Honestly, you can jump in at any point because there's no real continuity between shows and movies. I would say a good place to start is with the second series that started in 1977. It's episodic so you can basically just pick a hand full of episodes that look interesting and watch them to see if it's your style. If you prefer modern stuff, the 2015 show that recently aired on Toonami is pretty good. There's also a brand new show that just started today actually. I haven't watched the first episode yet, so I don't know how good it is or if it ties into the 2015 in any fashion, but if you want to get in on the ground floor on it, it's there.

>>9436

I'm having a hard time getting into Slayers. I slogged through the first and now I'm several episodes into Next, I don't get why everyone talked this up so much.

It's not really bad, it just feels painfully average in everything it does.

>>20362

>Miyazaki

The only good Miyazaki is Hidetaka Miyazaki

Since bakabt went private and nyaa torrents for old anime are dead most of the time, where the fuck do you get old shit? [INSERT SHITTY STREAMING SITE] usually have most old anime, but you know.

There's like a gazillion different sites for downloading old vidya without having to deal with private trackers, but finding old anime is suffering, especially raws. FantasyAnime that was linked earlier has some nice stuff, but it's a small selection. Any sites similar to that one?

>>22798

>douchebag space high elves: the anime

Breety good taste, anon. I watched it in early 2010's, actually thought it was a more recent anime. I thought the poor resolution was my fault for finding a shit source, but it's a 90's anime, to this day I don't know if a higher rez was ever made.

>>22798

>Shame about the non-vanilla ending to the love story, though.

what happened?

>>22793

This shit is why we need IPFS. >>>/tech/793208

>>22793

>where the fuck do you get old shit?

AnimeBytes, in my experience. Although BakaBT is probably a bit easier to get into at the moment, because what you have to do is read the BakaBT wiki and join the appropriate IRC channel on Rizon to do the interview where they ask some questions about torrenting terminology and about the website's rules. AnimeBytes, you have to know somebody with an invite or you wait for the next time they open up applications, and who knows when that will be.

>>22801

Given the space-elves long lifespans, they've developed a curious mating dynamic: Rather than being together for centuries and eventually getting bored with each other, their monogamy climaxes and ends with the first child. So the protagonist that has spent several seasons being lovey-dovey with his waifu and trying to get into her pants, gets dumped when he accomplishes it.

>>22793

Virtually every old, obscure anime has been uploaded to YouTube with subtitles. They haven't been taken down because they're so obscure that no one cares about them. You could try just downloading them from there. It's far less than ideal, but it's the only option for a lot of anime. This is how I found the Vifam OVAs.

The Hylia has a lot of old anime too, but the website only allows ten downloads per IP.

>>22808

Thehylia has various series hosted on it, but still have a big blacklist of shows that have been DMCAed off of their site, and if memory serves a ten episode per day unregistered restriction limit. Still might present an option if really needed though.

>>22882

>>22864

Thanks for the suggestions, but I'm already aware of both of them. YouTube videos that are softsubbed are usually serviceable but TheHylia is mostly hardsubbed and some of their stuff is dubbed as well. They have some raws, which is nice though.

>>22798

What is the correct order to watch this in?

The summary for the first(?) part says

>Three years after their adventure

which implies an even earlier installment?

>>22901

Yeah, there's an earlier installment. I haven't watched the show in years, but I think there were 3 seasons. You may find more parts by looking for 'Seikai no Senki'.

>>22908

The earliest title i can find even when searching for the jap name is from 2000 and that's the one saying

>Three years after their adventure

Does it just refer to the manga or something?

>>22909

From what I remember, the first episodes in the series are about the girl meeting the guy, the protagonist, on his home planet. Doesn't sound like you have found the first season.

>>22911

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banner_of_the_Stars

i feel rused

>>22914

You're not. It's been so long since I watched it, dude. Look up Crest of the Stars. That's the season I was talking about.

>>22916

Nevermind, Crest of the Stars is an OVA.

>>22916

>>22917

So i just start with

<Banner of the Stars - TV Series [2000]

?

>>22919

Seikai no Monshou → Seikai no Senki → Seikai no Danshou → Seikai no Senki S2 → Seikai no Senki S3

Protip: use MAL next time.

>>22919

No, search for an OVA with the name 'Crest of the Stars'. I looked around in my anime folder, and managed to find it.

>>22921

Disregard that I suck cocks. Use anidb instead, they even have fancy graphs.

https://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=1

>>22924

Gonna ignore the summary specials and start with tanjou i guess

well the prequel was pretty shit

heres hoping Crest of the Stars is better

>>22926

Shit, I already said I'm sorry anon. I kept using that ad and spyware infested place and blocking all that shit kept breaking the site because I didn't know that anidb was better.

In my defense I never engaged with their hideous community and only used it for looking shit up. It wasn't always an ad infested hellhole.

>>23070

I saw the Space Cobra film, I'm looking to download the TV series.

>>20807

I'm in the exact same boat. I watched the first season, the first movie, and around 6 episodes of Next. Next does seem quite a bit more entertaining than the first season, but it's still not quite as engaging as I expected.

I was also let down by Dirty Pair so far, which also feels very average to me. I watched a few episodes months ago and still haven't gone back to it yet.

>>20292

though luck, all i could find years ago was some BR subs of the 80s OVAs, but i think its gone now

>>23122

I find the Slayers OVAs and films to be more entertaining than the TV series, same with Dirty Pair and a few other franchises from back in the 80s and 90s. I think that's mostly due to faster pacing and a nice bump up in animation quality.

The TV series are still okay, they're just kinda easy to "burn out" on if you try to marathon them. At least that was my experience, anyway.

Why do people hate Ninja Scroll again? I just rewatched it - thought it was fantastic.

>>25756

People hate Ninja Scroll? Those people are faggots

>>25756

It's an excellent film. I imagine the bloody violence and tits are too much for your average CR subscribing soyboy that's still wanking off to Yuri on Ice. The TV anime that came later was shit, though.

>>25748

Tell me that's not real promotional material. That is so horribly photoshopped I want to puke.

bump

>>29202

Probably a migrant from /hypno/.

>>29202

Faggots like that are leeches. They want to leech off, but they never contribute.

>>29206

that sounds really _bad_

Dragon Heaven

felt very simple, but also very Mobius like, also, found an ArtBook related on sadpanda.

Rayearth

Back in the day when isekais were not a plague, good twist, 2nd season had best girls, but they went underused and the conclusion was pretty meh.

Neo Ranga

13 minute episodes and i am not sure what the fuck did i just watch

Shoujo Kakumei Utena

Movie Anthy > TV Anthy

>>9430

I watched Gundam Wing when I was a kid on Toonami. So I returned to it at 30 years old and frankly it sucks.

>>29218

>Dragon Heaven

That's a great one shot OVA. Birth is another great one.

I've been slowly working my way through Legends of the Galactic Heroes

I'm at episode 62 (of 105) so a little over half done, and I gotta say the alliance episodes are really boring and somewhat repetitive (alliance leaders push for war, they get their asses handed to them, yang pulls their bacon out of the fire, they promote yang but then saddle him with some shit so he can't be on the frontlines they next time they try this stupid shit) and Yang Wenli is a fucking scumfuck.

I suppose it's Reinhard's fault for not executing all of the enemy generals and commanders to prevent a rebellion after "defeating" the alliance also Julian is a shit. Really fucking makes me angry when Yang acts innocent when he had the opportunity to tell his alliance cohorts to stand down instead of taking over some base and later giving them the info on where the ships were being decommissioned

Also wish they showed more of civilian life in the free planets alliance under empire rule, I think the citizens really wouldn't have given a fuck either way to whom they pay taxes since shit just werks under empire rule

>>29230

I like Gundam Wing precisely because it's cringe aimed at 14 year olds who think they're more mature than they actually are. I enjoy watching it and laughing at myself for taking it so seriously when I was younger. Reveling in the show's cheesy melodrama. G Gundam is the better 90s Gundam, though.

>>29230

>when you originally watched Love Hina because of that shitty flash dating sim.

>>29343

A lot more effort and detail.

>>29346

everything

>>29349

well first off I think you're suffering from a bad case of nostalgia, but to the broader point I'd have to blame the current way studios are funded – let me explain:

they get a certain budget to make a show

thus they have to drive down costs by lowering animation quality, outsourcing, or selling merch

but who is going to buy merch for a shit show with unlikeable characters right?

so they have to pick very conservative plots and character archetypes.

thus we get a lot of samey plots and cookiecutter character personalities because they must sell merch or go into debt and seriously damage their own reputation

>>29343

The artists had bigger budgets and the writers were less self-conscious.

>>29377

Budgets are mainly used to pay staff. Source? Hiroshi Harada.

>>29932

It's from one of the 90s Gundam anime. If I had to guess I'd say 08th MS Team.

>>29960

rad, bless you anon

>>29343

Honestly it's all the same shit, older anime is still interesting because you can see how certain themes and trends came about. Certain trends are more prevalent during certain time periods but it all evened out in the past couple decades.

>>29218

I finished Rayearth recently and have to say it was a fantastic show.

The ending was not outstanding in any way, but it served its purpose and left you with a rough idea of what may have happened next.

>>9436

I remember the final 2 seasons of Slayers being absolute shit, but the rest was very good.

It's been like 8 years since I first watched it though.

>>29343

Because you watched Toonami and then filled your head with 4chan memes about fictitious modern anime.

>>10024

Genshi-kun is great. Used to watch the dubbed version bitd, I was surprised anyone out there actually subbed it, let alone complete it. These kinds of shows tend to get ignored and the old edited dubs are all we're left with, which is a shame.

Been on a real 80's and 90's OVA kick lately. Specifically went out searching for sword-and-sorcery fantasy shows but I've been checking out all kinds of shit

>Fantastic Adventure of Yohko: Leda

Really fun watch, this is where my obsession with 80's bikini-warrior animu girls has begun. Cute girls, a talking dog, cool robots, and a fucking giant castle mech. Pretty damn decent animation too, and the art kind of reminds me of Heavy Metal/Mobius which I suppose is typical for the era

>Legend of Lemnear

Now this one REALLY reminded me of the movie Heavy Metal with a bikini warrior chick flying around on pterodactyl-like thing. Animation didn't seem quite as good as Leda but it has everything I want from 80's fantasy anime: tits, blood, and evil sorcerers so it did the trick. Dumb as fuck but really fun.

>Gunsmith Cats

This one's pretty well known but I'd never seen it before and holy shit is it good.

>Riding Bean

Found it because Rally Vincent's in it, and holy shit is it REALLY FUCKING GOOD. The car chases are so well-animated they blew my mind. Everything about it blew me away, great watch.

>>29218

>>29233

Dragon Heaven is really cool, I couldn't believe they made that huge ass model mech just for one low-budget OVA, they must have been really passionate about it.

>Birth is another great one

This does look cool, hopefully I can find where to get my hands on it.

>>32804

Supposedly the Gunsmith Cats manga is worthwhile too but I haven't read it yet.

>>32804

You might want to try Plastic Little, Capricorn and Outlanders. They may not be as good as what you've already watched but they sound like they'd be up your alley. The Lemnear manga is fun too.

>>32807

The manga is very good. It's a fair bit darker than the anime.

>>33020

Vampire Hunter D

>comedic and fun, generic 80-90s artstyle

Vampire Hunter D - Bloodlust

>grimdark and serious, detailed as fuck

I find the contrast hilarious.

>>33022

>>33020

As great as Bloodlust is I don't think the original Vampire Hunter D movie gets enough recognition.

>>33043

I went through that a few years ago, circa 2007 (I remember not even finishing Gurren Lagan due to that feeling of burnout)

First I turned to only watching old series. Then series became too tiring, so I went with OVAs only. And eventually stopped completely as everything seemed to be the same.

I recently came back to anime through seasonal series and eventually tended to my old unwatched backlog and I've been enjoying myself (yes even with seasonal anime).

So my conclusion is that I must haveoverdomne it. Plus seasonal trends take time to change. So a bunch of seasonal shit will seem the same throughout the span of a few years, and that can be tiring. The seasonal anime that I watched these past couple years seemed fresh to me in many ways (well, moeshit is still moeshit, but on steroids).

And finally, nostalgia goggles are somewhat justifiable due to"survival bias". As in the 80s and 90s sure had a LOT of shit anime. But these simply didn't leave a mark. So of course we see old anime as being superior, as we can pick and choose from the best these eras had to offer.

>>33062

>And finally, nostalgia goggles are somewhat justifiable due to"survival bias". As in the 80s and 90s sure had a LOT of shit anime.

First of all, I was not old enough during those era to be watching anime so I have not myself experienced these series in my childhood and thus can't feel really nostalgia towards them. I've also been doing a shitton of research to find stuff to watch and yeah sure, there are series that are a bit mediocre at times but they're never shit. And you're fucking lying to yourself if you even claim there was a lot of it. There wasn't and even the worst of those eras were not nearly as bad as random stuff coming out now. I haven't just being watching the best it had to offer.

Also, the best the current seasons have to offer (at least according to the internet, including this place) is still DOGSHIT in my eyes. Rampant CG, barely any 2D animation, characters are reduced to being walking tropes, rehashed stories, entire shows that hope to become popular through a single gimmick (cute girls doing X). No, you're fucking wrong, modern anime is garbage and I'm not looking at anime with nostalgia goggles, you're looking at it with low standards goggles. Anything can be fun to watch if you don't even give a shit about what you're watching and just want it to be made in Japan. You might as well watch drying paint you fucking retard.

>>33070

Yup, I maintain all I've said. You're acting the part exactly like you should.

Dude, I'm not saying you're wrong in not liking seasonal anime. It's a matter of feeling burnout or not, and it can happen to anyone. And the reason you don't hear about bad anime from back then is PRECISELY because it was bad. If you're so concerned about proving you're not wearing nostalgia goggles, then don't say stupid shit like "back then anime wasn't bad"

>>33074

Can you give me some examples of actually shit old anime from the 80s? I've read that MD Geist and Mad Bull 34 are "bad" anime but both of those are incredibly fun. I've seen people say that the Ys OVA and the Wizardry OVA are bad but they're just as fun to watch as the first two I mentioned. The only way I see an anime being bad is it being boring. What are some examples of that from the 80s/maybe 90s?

By the way I'm not >>33070 but I find myself agreeing with him.

>>33085

Like I said, people don't know bad anime from back then simply because our ears BAD. But the answer is literally one search away

>Art of Fighting

Made to cash in on the video game's fame, this movie apparently is utter shit.

We can keep searching if you want. But just ask yourself these questions:

Do you really think that across two decades an entertainment medium maintained an overwhelmingly positive output?

Really?

That if no good anime idea turned up, producers and publishers would say "I guess I'll skip this one out, yep better not air anything this season unless it's something critics would like"?

Or that Japan didn't had their own product placement anime back then?

Jesus man, get off your high horses. I'm glad that we're have great anime from those decades to watch. But imagine being in the 80/90s and acting all high-nose and shit because "not everything that comes out nowadays is good so I won't bother watching seasonal anime"

>>33097

>simply because it was BAD

>>33043

>I have spend the last half a year or so mostly watching OVAs from the late 80s and early 90s

Good, you've spent it better than I have. I was treating this season and the previous as backlog seasons, and intending to do something like what you did, but in total I only got through half of LoGH and most of Miracle Girls. That's less than one episode a day.

>>33070

>First of all, I was not old enough during those era to be watching anime so I have not myself experienced these series in my childhood and thus can't feel really nostalgia towards them.

Survivorship bias is still relevant because the good anime that survived are the ones you would have been more likely to pick in the last six months.

I hear a lot of people compare the best of the 2010s' anime with the best of the 80s' or 90s', but has anyone rigorously sifted through the bad stuff to determine which decade had the worst trash too?

>>33085

I've seen a ton of old, obscure OVAs from back then and the only I would call bad is Violence Jack and even that can be amusing because of how over the top everything is. A lot of OVAs from back then do feel rushed and unfinished, but what's there is usually amusing at the very least.

>>33162

>something something Dungeon

I think I watched that piece of trash.

>While we're on the topic of anime that are considered bad anwyay, I had seen that one of these old OVAs called Teito Monogatari had a very low score on MAL and was generally badly recieved yet when I watched it I thought it was damn amazing. It had some very fluid animation, some of the best body horror sequences I have seen in anime and the story was pretty interesting for something that only lasted 4 episodes (though I must note it was adapted from literature).

Might be worth checking out if it's just four episodes. I tend to regard the "old anime good new anime bad" opinion as just a contrarian meme because I see it all the time on shitposting boards but I am thinking you might have a point. By the time I actually watch a non-negligible amount of anime it's plausible that I could agree with it.

Currently watching Macross in order, not having too much fun with Macross Plus, as it feels like not!Evangelion. I'll keep at it 'cause I hear Macross 7 gets really good. Overall, the theme of songs and love being a weapon to end alien conflict is really fun.

>>33188

>skipping

you go all the way, anon.

>>33184

I'm pretty sure Macross Plus came before Eva. You might enjoy the movie adaption of it more since the story was originally supposed to be a movie but the studio forced the writers to pad it out because they wanted to make it a 4 episode OVA.

>I hear Macross 7 gets really good

There are good things about it but a lot of bad too. The first 14 or so episodes are pretty much the same thing.

>>33188

The first Macross show is one of the best mecha shows out there in my opinion. The movie retelling is good too, but no substitute for the show.

>>33219

The cool thing about Do You Remember Love is that it's supposed to be an in-universe historical movie based on the events depicted in the show. Some characters in Macross 7 watch it on tv in one episode.

>>33219

DYRL is exquisite but it practically requires having seen the series first, despite being a 'retelling'. Anyone who recommends skipping the series and only watching the movie can be safely dismissed as an idiot/hipster.

>>33250

And it's also still dripping with Evangelion aesthetic.

>>33162

>Bitter nostalgiafag

Guys like you have been around since the 90s. You liked a few older shows, but in the end anime isn't really your thing. You never got over it, as indicated by your angry wall of text.

This shit always fucks up these kind of threads, the old vs new shitflinging is pointless and the arguments are always based on cherrypicking and wilfull ignorance.

>>33301

>but in the end anime isn't really your thing

Nigger shut the fuck up, I have seen hundreds of anime. And as I explained in another post, I can't be nostlagic about something I didn't actively experience.

>the old vs new shitflinging is pointless and the arguments are always based on cherrypicking and wilfull ignorance

You're describing your own post.

>>20292

Welp, found the Maps 1987 movie/OVA

It was very meh.

Also the 4 '1994 OVAs, had a btter scifi adventure films, but despite their flaws only made me more curious about the mango.

>>34093

I prefer the old anime artwork

even though I hate Evangelion with a passion, I love it's artwork.

My favorites are Outlaw Star, Ys 1&2 (saw them recently), and Lain.

Also, I remember from my childhood watching reruns on Nick Jr. an anime series called Grimm's Fairy Tale Classics.

>>33307

Nah, I think I hit the nail right on the head.

You're angry that people can enjoy new anime as much as the old stuff and you haven't figured out it's really all the same shit. There are tweaks to aesthetics and art styles, and there are trends that cycle around, but nothing really goes away forever. Almost everything you're complaining about existed in anime before the 2000s, you've either gone out of your way to avoid it or you're in denial.

>>34518

I think David the Gnome and Maya the Bee were kids anime shown on Nick jr. as well.

>>34531

>There are tweaks to aesthetics and art styles

Nah, animation has drastically devolved in the last few years. To imply that these high-budget OVAs from the early 90s and late 80s look exactly the same as the shit that's coming out now which is animated by low-wage Chinks makes me think you're the one in denial here. Again, it's pretty clear that you just want to be contrarian, modern anime obviously looks like shit to someone who isn't blind, if you want to watch it because you enjoy anything regardless of how mediocre it is that's your problem but do not act like the shows coming out of today are on the same quality as those of previous eras. Not even movies come fucking close and have to make use of shitty PS2-tier CG.

>>34533

>>>34518 (You)

>I think David the Gnome and Maya the Bee were kids anime shown on Nick jr. as well.

>

David the Gnome is not listed as anime but the art style at the time made it hard to distinguish it from the anime at the time. Original anime from Japan was inspired by western animation especially Walt Disney.

>>34548

>everything is bad because I say it is!

Okay. Have fun with that.

>>34554

>everything is good because I say it is!

Okay. Have fun with that.

>>33307

>>33301

>>34531

>>34548

>>34554

>>34555

Will you two just fuck already? Record it and post the video in the webm thread.

i am looking for the name of some OVA that later got adapted into a short TV show from the 90s

All i recall is that it was mostly a parody of the RPGs of that time. The female MC skill was making maps or something like that.

Most of her team had crappy skills like hers except for like 2 characters.

I forgot the name of it.

>>34980

mahoujin guru guru https://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=418

>>34980

Might be Fortune Quest ?

it had 4 OVAs and then a TV show in 98

Recently finished The Vision of Escaflowne. I haven't seen the movie yet, some say it's better than the TV show and some say it's worse, I hope it's the former.

I was interested in seeing it because it seemed like it was trying to be a mix of serveral genres like Shoujo and Mecha. I have to say, it's one hell of a clusterfuck but it was an enjoyable one for the most part, with the exception of the last few episodes where it was obvious the writers no longer had a clue what they were doing and just wanted to wrap up everything as fast as possible. I had read that it was originally meant to have two times the amount of episodes which explains why it felt so rushed. I haven't seen a show with this many moodswings and genre swaps since Samurai Flamenco.

>>35692

But anon, the mood swings were deliberate. They were meant to symbolize the erratic and bipolar emotions that teenage girls experience. You just didn't get it :^)

In an interesting turn, Discotek is releasing Angel Cop on bluray with brand new, uncensored English subs. Whether it's actually faithful or not, I'll believe that when I see it.

>>35732

no anon, they were just Gag comedies disguised as harems…

>>35731

What about Tench Muyo and El Hazard?

>>35731

You have shit taste.

>>35746

I recently dropped that after trying it out a second time. I wanted to like it because the visuals are great, the OST is great and the setting is pretty original but the character interactions are just so strange.

It's like everyone suffers from dementia; there's this episode where someone's father dies and an episode later she doesn't seem to care about it that much nor does she feel any hatred towards the moonpeople. The meonpeople's motivations are also a bit strange, they just randomly decide to attack the earth when it doesn't seem like the earth people would have minded a migration that much and then when things aren't going as planned they completely cease fighting even though they have the upperhand in weaponry and mechas.

>>35747

How far did you get? The girl you're talking about develops a hatred for the moon people because of her father's death, and she becomes a mecha pilot for the militia as a result.

I'm not far into it but I thought a lot of the character motivations were fairly clear. As for why the moon people didn't go into all out war seems to be out of caution after the gundam shows up, but it already seems other factions among their people intend to escalate the conflict and bring about a more aggressive approach.

It's an oddball of a gundam show, so I suppose it isn't for everyone.

>>35751

>I'm not far into it but I thought a lot of the character motivations were fairly clear.

Really? To me it seemed like everyone's motivations just change on the spot. I never even understood why the MC wanted to help earth when he was sent by the moon government and seemed to be loyal to their queen. I dropped it around the time where the MC got into the news for saying that he was from the moon or something. I was just fed up with it at that point, the entire show felt like a fever dream.

I tried out the original Macross series. I couldn't get into it sadly. Normally I don't like to see this term used but it was just too "dated" for me. It looked and felt more like something from the 70s like Galaxy Express 999 than the kind of stuff I'm used to from the 80s like Gunbuster and Nausicaa. I guess 1982 is too far back for me, I'll just watch Do You Remember Love, that seems to look better as well.

>>35746

The coming of age ceremony is an orgy right?

>>35767

No, they put leeches on your back to create markings similar to what you get when you link with the gundam.

>>35847

Try Violence Jack.

>>35847

Battle Royal Highschool looks fun, any idea where to find it? All the usual places I look turn up nothing.

>>35988

>searching "highschool" instead of "high school"

fuck me, that's why I couldn't find it. I would appreciate a quick upload somewhere though, I'm currently waiting on this slow as fuck Guyver torrent to finish and would rather not wait another 15 hours.

>>35990

>and would rather not wait another 15 hours

The BRH torrent took me around 50 minutes to finish. Guyver is superior to it (in my opinion) so that's worth your time more.

Anyway, where should I even upload it? I don't normally do these sort of things.

>>35994

https://volafile.org/r/BFwgl2

The anime vola might be a good choice, maybe some other anons wanna check it out too

>>36088

From what I remember, the show isn't as good as the movies but it's not bad.

>>36088

>Anybody watched the 1998 series?

yeah, it was a fun watch, dont remember much about it, but the readhead girl was a cute, didnt know it had movies, i guess i will download them

I don't get the infatuation with Rurouni Kenshin to be honest. If you look at it as a typical shonen/seinen anime it is not that bad but it is a very shitty example of jidaigeki manga. The publishers seem to somewhat acknowledge this as well which I suspect is part of the reason why the anime movies used a more mature artstyle. It is very telling that a lot of people prefer the villains to the actual protagonists, to the point of preferring the likes of Aoshi etc before they actually joined Kenshin's team. For me personally Shishio did nothing wrong and was a much more respectable character, all things considered, compared to the ginger scarface faggot. It really doesn't help that literally all of the series' villains have better visual design compared to Kenshin's, and a lot of them are also portrayed as more sympathetic although perhaps unintentionally.

Plus there are tons of better samurai manga/anime which never got the attention they deserve, such as Kubikiri Asa and Oogami Itto, but Kenshin's all people talk about when discussing samurai stuff.

bump

>>36088

The 1998 series is fucking boring as shit, not to mention ass ugly as it switches from early digi-paint animation to cheap hand drawn during the episodes I remember. It's not really worth watching, especially after the movies. It's only high point is the opening.

I say Ghost Stories series was pretty good, only dub worth watch and it came out OCT 2000, so its still a 90's anime.

I watched Jin-roh earlier this week, as for world building and visuals its pretty great, graphic and the plot was driven the whole time and gave the feeling of something bigger going on the whole time.

I read the director has been building this universe for like 30 years now of some neo tokyo shit timeline but some of its live action some of its anime and I really dont know if its worth getting into or not.

And tbh I didnt really sympathize with the girl at the end as much as the wolf. I did like that at each time they repeated the wolf fable it took on a new meaning.

3.7/5

Midnight eye goku

Golgo 13 : Queen Bee- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWzG4qUbeXc

Emblem Take (yakuza slice of life anime) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw7Xvt40N0w

ANN had an anime about some swingers that were seducing women to make extra money or something. The main guy joins a troupe of men who recognize each other as "like themselves" who exist only to take women home from the club or something…it is pretty cool and bleeds with that 80s/early 90s style of "cool" that anime was known for back then. ANN did a story about it but I can't remember what it was called. Very similar to emblem take now that I think about it.

>>42267

The men talk about exercise and staying in shape.

I watched Nausicaa for the first time last month. The first Ghibli film I saw was Howls Moving Castle when it first got released in American theaters. I had only seen about 5 "miyazaki movies" until working through them this year. I have to say that watching Nausicaa makes me resent Miyazaki. All his films are the same.

1. gliders (always gliders)

2. female protagonist (who falls in love but never kisses the male love interest)

3. antiwar message (often bashing the axis powers)

4. physical disability used as a gimmick (often poorly implemented)

5. ORPHANS

Come on now, Miyazaki, stay in retirement.

>>41471

Jin-roh is really cool to 17 year olds but deserves the score most people give it. there's not a lot of grimdark anime so I salute their effort. However, the story was clearly written in somebody's 6th grade Advanced Engrish Crassu and remembered 20 years later. The directing is pretty atrocious too. Did we really need to hear some Mary Sue commie running and panting through the sewers for 5 minutes straight, only to be killed and replaced by the same exact character who happens to be her sister but oh wait shes not actually her sister also she loves the guy who is literally paid to murder her entire rebellion movement.

To make things worse, the film has been co-opted by alt-right schoolchildren including myself years ago, unfortunately.

>>42277

Miyazaki films have great visuals and settings but they tend to get overrated, especially his newer stuff. And even then the visuals are more a result of the talent of the animators and not so much his direction.

Too bad he's now more famous for his meme opinion and the shitty b8 threads it generated.

>>42279

Oh, he has a point. Even if the text in the jpg is a fake translation (which it is if youve seen the video he elaborates) - he is definitely butthurt (rightiously so) that anime has been turned into the Sword Art Online extended universe. He popularized films which are actually very powerful compared to the usual 2-cour runs in telling a story, unfortunately not so powerful at generating revenue and merchandising rights. CoMiX Wave Films is kind of like Ghibli where they rely on doing the same stuff over and over again with slight variations, but the more films there are, the better. Eventually something will turn over a larger profit than the Japanese market and I'm pretty sure the Chinese are not going to be including transvestite-pandering characters into their storylines.

>secondly

We also forget that Ghibli films are mostly rated PG and are family friendly. Eventually some of us are going to be blessed to have families (if you didn't get too brainwashed by the japanese plot to destroy america) and we can revisit some of the more wholesome stuff for nostalgia and share it with its intended audience.

>>42278

What the fuck are you talking about. The animation and direction are great and it's being remade in south korea as a major live action film. i can't wait to see it.

If anything the grimdark elements are the only parts that are bad about it but if you know what the ffuck a sociopath is then maybe dodo's like you need someone like oshii-sensei to repeat the point multiple times until you get it.

oshii has no conscience and you should be afraid

>>42310

I don't think anime has become corporate money-making. It is soulless. Whenever I think of anime, I think of hentai.

>>42670

The way anime seems to be made now is that a bunch of suits look at what gimmick has become popular and base their new show on that.

Madoka Magica created the edgy mahou shoujo boom, SAO created the self-insert isekai boom, Konosuba created the somewhat self-aware isekai parody boom, then there's all the barely animated, low-budget "cute girls doing very specific outdoors activites" shows cough Yuru Camp.

Why bother coming up with an interesting concept when you can just copy+paste whatever is popular in any given era, the seasonalfags with zero standards will throw cash at anything that looks like anime regardless.

>>42683

you thin 90s anime came from nowhere? it was all based on what shit oav's people were buying.

no difference

>>42767

>Ghibli films are for normalfag niggers

Trying too hard to fit in with elitism maybe >>>/a/ would be more your speed.

>>42770

>thinking elitism is exclusive to /a/

Trying too hard to be a poor, victimized newfag, maybe

>>>/reddit/

>>>/facebook/

>>>/tumblr/

>>>/somethingawful/

are more your speed.

>Studio Ghibli

Spirited Away is the only one that I actually like. The rest are either bland or boring.

>>42776

i thought that princess mononoke, porco rosso, spirited away, castle in the sky, howl's moving castle, nausicaa and tales from earthsea were really good.

'the wind rises' was ass tho. disregarding the blatant anti-axis bias, it was just a really flat movie. i had to struggle to finish it.

>>42767

for gods sake you act like i even bothered to watch that just now.

do you want me to link you to a reddit torrent request for a raw?

eat one (a dick)

>>42282

>Anime is bad now because I cherrypicked these specific examples

Oh good the nigger that hates modern anime has come to bless us with his angry walls of text and retarded opinions again. You may as well just post your ironic weeb chart and kill this thread so we can have a better one later.

>>42761

a shitty meme series, and it has a pretty liberal bent. I hate how they virtue-signaled that faggot character.

and there's utterly no substance to it, pure superficial stylism. People say Akira is superficial style, and that's dead wrong, but Bebop really is just "dude, cool" bullshit.

the whole vicious arc was retarded and horribly developed

>>35987

youtube has a ton of OVA's for w/e reason

>>42724

Not really. How were some of the best series from that era like Cowboy Bebop, Eva, Ima Soko ni Iru Boku, Big O, Cardcaptor Sakura, Utena etc. inspired by OVAs. Especially since OVAs were mainly a big thing in the 80s, by the mid-90s it was already dying.

>>42761

I think it's a masterpiece.

>but a lot of people think it's surface level shit

That's just people being little faggots as always and basing their opinion on how popular something is. For example, if Cowboy Bebop was a really obscure and not that well-known series, people would be calling it an arthouse hidden gem or whatever. They do the same shit with Evangelion.

It's true that Cowboy Beop was the entry to a lot of westernes to anime but how does that mean it's a bad series? Would that mean that if it had not aired on Adult Swim and it would not have blown up in the west, it would suddenly be a good series after all?

>>42778

>flat movie

What do you mean exactly?

>>42797

I felt that the ending to Nadia would serve as a sort of inspiration to Gurren Lagann's ending seeing as Gainax has a history of re-using certain plot elements from older shows and it ending with a shift in technological advancement, the crew being different from the first half and an over-the-top spaceship battle.

>>42831

>youtube

Yeah I'm aware, I subscribed to a few channels that have some OVAs. Youtube has been the only place I was able to find Cybernetics Guardian, unfortunately it's only a dub and has kind of shitty quality so I can't reallly tell what's happening in it half the time since it's so dark and grainy. If anybody know where I can find a better copy I'd appreciate it.

>>42889

>Youtube has been the only place I was able to find Cybernetics Guardian

Nigger, I downloaded it from Nyaa, the torrent is still up with one seeder. Are you a streamcuck that you're this bad at finding anime? I guess you must have searched for the English title rather than the Japanese one.

Stop watching shitty dubbed anime on youtube like some third world normalfag. Same goes for >>42831, Battle Royal Highschool is also on Nyaa.

>>42890

didn't have any seeds when I checked but hey, thanks faggot

>>42892

Oh really? When did you check? Because I torrented it somewhere in May. Just admit you're too retarded to use torrents.

>>42831

>>42889

Streamcucks out. >>>/reddit/

>>42819

>Waaaah ur mean!

No >>>/reddit/

You eat a dick.

>>42843

>waaaaaaah people don't like my entry level anime!

I'm sorry you're a normalfag who hasn't branched out from your Toonami bubble.

>It's true that Cowboy Beop was the entry to a lot of westernes to anime but how does that mean it's a bad series?

Bebop is not terrible, but don't act like normalfags constantly throwing it a parade for the last 20 years hasn't tarnished its repution among weebs who've actually watched shit out of the Toonami bubble and know for a fact there's way better anime out there than Bebop.

The resentment for the show isn't born from nowhere, it's born from niggers prying their way into our hobby by watching basic shit and acting like they're "in-the-know" about chinese flipbooks.

>>42896

Does it really surprise you these posturing hipsters who think they're special for watching older Taiwanese basket weavings also can't torrent?

>>42898

I'm not saying that Cowboy Bebop is the single best anime ever made but it is definitely up there. It stays as far away from generic anime archetypes and gimmicks as possible and is influenced by old films and music genres rather than other anime like so many shows of today.

I have seen 400+ series to date so I wouldn't say that I'm stuck in a "Toonami bubble".

>The resentment for the show isn't born from nowhere, it's born from niggers prying their way into our hobby by watching basic shit and acting like they're "in-the-know" about chinese flipbooks.

So you hate the people who like Cowboy Bebop but haven't seen much more than it, that doesn't mean you have to hate the actual show. Don't base a series' value on its fans or a loud minority among them.

>>42890

>Nigger, I downloaded it from Nyaa, the torrent is still up with one seeder

This. Even if a torrent is lacking seeds they usually come up within a day or so. There's no need to watch dubs on youtube like a mouth-breather.

>>42910

it's a shit anime, fuck off

>>43006

>wanting to be contrarian so badly that you bash one of the most original and creative anime ever made just because it's popular

Let me guess: you're a seasonalfag?

>>43008

>"most original and creative"

<whitewashes nigger music

<spams a faggot and tranny character

<generic edgelord cold steel antagonist with zero depth, "ugh everything is shit, look at how philosophical XDD"

<le coolio protagonist that is just….cool

<generic feminist subplot with the bald guy and how women should be "independent"

<basically the series is shitty western propaganda in cartoon form, not even good propaganda, just very shitty and lazy with "le cool" stylism

no wonder it was popular

let me guess: you're a dumbshit?

>>43013

>whitewashes

Leftist memeword.

>spams a faggot and tranny character

Are you talking about Ed? I'm pretty sure Faye said in one episode that she was a girl.

As for the faggot, I guess you mean the guy who liked Vicious who only appears in one episode. I think it is implied (or at least it's a logical conclusion to come to) that he ended up a faggot due to the female hormones he was taking (which he couldn't stop taking due to his addiction to it). Which I'd say is somewhat redpilled in a way as the series showed that injecting hormones into your body will fuck you up and turn you into a monster that is neither man nor woman.

>generic edgelord cold steel antagonist with zero depth, "ugh everything is shit, look at how philosophical XDD"

This is absolute bullshit, Vicious believed his leaders were not strict enough and was against their descision to make peace with other crime groups.

>le coolio protagonist that is just….cool

Oh now you're just complaining about a fictional character behaving like a fictional character. "cool" is completely subjective, maybe I didn't think he was cool, how about that faggot.

>generic feminist subplot with the bald guy and how women should be "independent"

Again, only one episode, wouldn't call that a subplot. I wouldn't say the meaning of that episode was that women should be independent either seeing as she got together with some dumb criminal who got caught when she could have just stayed with Jet and remained happy. So it's more like the exact opposite.

So, in conclusion, it is good and you're a faggot.

>>43018

>implying I'm a leftist

>I explicitly criticize the faggy western liberal/leftist propaganda inherent in the series

yep, you're a dumbshit

>does mental gymnastics to try and convince himself that he wasn't duped by good ol' liberal/leftist propaganda while he was cleaning his nostalgia goggles

moron

>VICIOUS IS ACTUALLY A PROFOUND GUY HE WAS…..STRICT! LOOK HOW PROFOUND BEING…STRICT IS!

wow bro, didn't know being strict was a super duper philosophy and depthful

>more denialism

>and more denialism

neck yourself immediately for being such a stupid, underaged retard.

>>43021

I wasn't sure if you were just ironically shitposting from the start, thanks for unsubtly anouncing it so I don't have to continue this bullshit.

>>42910

>So you hate the people who like Cowboy Bebop but haven't seen much more than it

Nice projection normalfag.

>that doesn't mean you have to hate the actual show.

I don't hate it, but it's impossible to discuss it these days because it's been discussed to death and overhyped by normlafgas such as yourself.

>I have seen 400+ series to date

Sure you have newfag, sure you have.

>is influenced by old films and music genres

That's not special, tons of anime before and after bebop takes influence from movies you dipshit.

>is influenced by old films and music genres

No wonder you're in this thread, you think somehow all anime before [year] weren't formulaic at all, no sir all anime before [year] were these untouchable works of art hand crafted on cels folded one thousand times over.

>>43026

>gets so btfo that he has to resort to calling it shitposting in his head so he can calm down

rent free

>>43026

haha, good ol' 8gag, "if you disagree with my shitty opinion, it's shitposting!!"

it's like we're trapped in Gamergate forever.

>>43027

>Nice projection normalfag.

What? I even quoted your own post on that, you said:

>The resentment for the show isn't born from nowhere, it's born from niggers prying their way into our hobby by watching basic shit and acting like they're "in-the-know" about chinese flipbooks.

>I don't hate it, but it's impossible to discuss it these days because it's been discussed to death and overhyped by normlafgas such as yourself.

Transalation: I don't hate it but some people like it more than I do therefore I shall pretend to hate it when it's brought up.

>Sure you have newfag, sure you have.

Nice projection, normalfag.

>That's not special, tons of anime before and after bebop takes influence from movies you dipshit.

I'm aware that 80s anime took inspiration from western films a lot but that doesn't change that from the late 90s and onwards anime started becoming more otaku-oriented and took its inspiration from works inside its own medium instead.

>>43037

All he did was just call me a dumbshit and moron after attempting to present serious counterarguments to his claims, how is that not shitposting?

>8gag

Oh it's the cuckchanner, what a suprise. It's pretty obvious you're just fucking with me at this point.

>>43041

yeah dude, everyone disagreeing with you is just shitposting and fucking with you, and we're all from 4chan. B.r.i.l.l.i.a.n.t.

So does anyone have any real arguments for why Cowboy Bebop is supposedly bad outside of low-effort bait and "it's too popular"?

>>43087

So do you have any real arguments for why Cowboy Bebop is supposedly good outside of low-effort regurgitated normalfag opinions?

>>43041

>anime started becoming more otaku-oriented and took its inspiration from works inside its own medium instead.

>anime not taking inspiration from pedowood trash

>Bad

No wonder you enjoy Normalfag Bebop, you're a nigger raised on a diet of kike media.

>>43087

see >>43013

>>43088

The whole discussion started because some faggot called it "entry level shit" which is memespeak for "I don't like it because it is popular". I'm simply interested in hearing any genuine arguments for why the show would be bad from a artistic/writing standpoint rather than because it was a big deal in the west. Funny how much this triggers people, almost as if there really aren't any good arguments and it is a genuinely great show.

>So do you have any real arguments for why Cowboy Bebop is supposedly good outside of low-effort regurgitated normalfag opinions?

God-tier OST, detailed art, well-choreographed and enjoyable to watch fight scenes, likeable main character, subplots and the respective characters they revolve around are developed as much as main characters would have had in some less greater series and makes you feel sympathy for them even if they are the villains, most satisfying last episode I have ever seen, overall good job at creating a world that mixes different genres and mediums like blues, jazz and noir film, high rewatch value etc.

>bad

I'm talking about stuff like M.D. Geist who took obvious reference from Mad Max. Or something like Gunsmith Cats. Don't be an autistic faggot and ignore the obvious to make another thread about politics. I hate western media for the most part but it seems that Japs can actually turn it into something good and use it for reference material to shape an interesting work. Anime nowadays is just a circlejerk revolving around the same fucking archetypes and episodes (bathhouse, beach etc.) every season.

Don't bother replying if you were going to write another variation of "lol you're an idiot".

>>43094

I said no low-effort bait.

>>43097

>"entry-level shit"

That's true, and the reason it is entry-level is because it's so superficial and is coded with Western propaganda, which our moronic western audiences (who like it) are programmed to abide by unbeknownst to themselves.

>genuine genuine genuine genuine genuine

just because you say a word over and over doesn't make it true, sorry.

>God-tier OST

deliberately whitewashed nigger music. That's what it is, the studio took Jazz, which is nigger music, and de-niggered it so dumb white gaijin could digest it without reacting to it politically.

>detailed art

ok but there's plenty of good detailed anime out there

>well choreographed fight scenes

lmao what a faggot, I'm thinking YOU are the bait now.

>likeable main character

yeah, le ebin ironically nihilist cool guy that smokes cigarettes, wow, what a revelation.

>"respective" "developed" "greater" "makes you feel sympathy" "most satisfying" "mixes different genres" "noir film, high rewatch value"

1/10 word salad tbh

>>43098

>m-m-muh bait

what I said was true and I said it in a deliberately antagonistic way because it is a shit series and thus doesn't deserve respect but rather deserves to be antagonized and shit on. If you can't take that heat and want to try and trick yourself into thinking it's all just a 4chan meme conspiracy, be my guest, 8gagger.

Bottom-line: it's shit, you are shit, and your word salad is shit.

Alright, since I've already countered the only serious post regarding this topic and everything else is just cuckchan shitposting, it seems that there really is no argument for why the series is bad. Good to know I was right. And no, I won't give you any more (you)s.

>>43103

>"waaaahhhhhh, *sniffles* waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh"

>"m-muh cuckchan"

>"m-m-muh bait"

>"e-e-everything is shitposting"

sage negated

Only cuckchanners call this site "8gag" but I'll reply to one part of your post to calm your nigger-tier behaviour.

>what I said was true and I said it in a deliberately antagonistic way because it is a shit series and thus doesn't deserve respect but rather deserves to be antagonized and shit on

I specifically asked for real arguments, I'm not interested in your cancerous "it's bad because [MEMES] epic troll!!! WORLD SALAD" posts. So fuck off or think of anything to counter my arguments that isn't a buzzword.

>>43109

>cuckchanners call this site 8gag

8gag is what /intl/ called 8chan to emphasize this website's hypocritical advocation of free-speech and severe moderation and circlejerk attitude amongst users (you). I find that critique of theirs useful, so I borrow it.

>in b4 muh /intl/

unlike your dumbass, I'm capable of seeing good or useful things in people I otherwise despise

>cuckchan

the reason your muh cuckchan is stupid is because you're implying that 8chan is somehow freer. This is absolutely not true, these days 4chan has more freedom in posting.

>in b4 OMG SEE U ARE CUCKCHAN BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T USE MY SPECIAL CUCKCHAN WORD, YOU USED 4CHAN AND YOU SOUND LIKE YOU SAID SOMETHING NICE ABOUT 4CHAN OMG

you're a moron

>muh arguments

if you want some kind of self-serving fedora serious discussion, fuck off to reddit

>>>/reddit/

otherwise what we've said about your shit series is 100% true. Can't take the heat? Bye bye, kid.

and sage negated.

>it's an /intl/fag

Thank you for sparing my time by showing your true colors.

>>43097

>a bunch of subjective shit means show is good

Not an argument

>Anime nowadays is just a circlejerk revolving around the same fucking archetypes and episodes

t. normalfag who claims to have seen 400 series but spits out same normalfag opinions about anime because he's too fucking lazy to look for new things he might like.

>I'm talking about stuff like M.D. Geist

Nigger, it's time admit MD Geist is also shit, it's enjoyable to watch because it's a trainwreck.

Don't bother replying if you were going to write another variation of "lol show is god tier because i hate modern animu".

>>43103

>>43109

Downboat negated.

>>>/cuckchan/ is more fit for your normalfag opinions.

>>43113

>didn't read the post

>dumbshit did exactly what I said he would do

dumbshit

>>43106

impkampfy pls

>>43119

>YouTube

Torrent nigger, we just discussed this.

>>22798

There are some full series and OVAs I found on YouTube. /a/ watches (the channel) has pretty much the entire Urusei Yatsura library.

>>43121

Nigger, do you know want torrenting is? Why is this thread so tech illiterate?

https://nyaa.pantsu.cat/view/978489

>hooktube

You're really out of the fucking loop.

>>43122

It's not that I don't know how to torrent. Downloading them via a converter is another alternate.

>>43121

And I just realized that I quoted the wrong post.

>>43123

>Downloading them via a converter is another alternate.

A shitty alternative with no upside. Torrent, streaming is for niggers.

>>43123

Why do you go this far out of your way to deny you don't know how to torrent? There's nothing difficult about it, third world children know how to torrent so there's no excuse for being a streamcuck. If you require spoonfeeding just say so but you could easily just google it and find out yourself.

It's time for a Ranma reboot. In America kek.

>>43142

Thank god

>>42773

Jesus you really aren't from around here.

>>42898

too funny

>>43087

Outlaw Star was superior.

>>43008

>The autist screeching about seasonal anime in every thread across several boards is a casual that jerks off to Bebop like a toonamifag

This explains everything.

>>43262

>That's my main motivation for watching old stuff at the moment

I've been doing the same thing for a while. A major inspiration for these sort of "journeying through an ancient and mystic land" series and OVAs was NHK's documentary The Silk Road where they traveled all the way from China's old capital to Rome. I highly recommend it, even if not anime.

>>43268

I'll shamefully admit I haven't seen it yet so I'll come back to you once I'v done so.

I recently finished Ima, Soko ni Iru Boku for the first time and saw I had not made a post about it back then so I'll do so now. It was really painful to watch at times but it was exactly that which made it the most realistic portrayal of war I have seen in anime to date, it was even better in that regard than Grave of the Fireflies. It was interesting how the show started off with a lighthearted shounen-esque first episode and I guess that was supposed to show the stark contrast between the lives of children in peacetime and during wartime.

My only possible complaint would be the character of Lala-Ru who seemed like she had some sort of big backstory behind her but the writers didn't have the time to tell it in the span of the show so they just left her a rather strange mystery.

Highly recommended to everyone looking for a "no bullshit" show which is just pure suffering and gets more painful to watch every episode.

Also, embedded is the documentary I mentioned in >>43312, it's believed to have been a major inspiration for the Arslan manga/anime as well. Keep in mind that this is a really slow-paced documentary which mainly shows footage of deserts and historical ruins so it's best watched as a sort of SOL experience. The second season is also highly recommended although they sadly changed the narrator in that one whom I thought wasn't as good as the one from the first season.

>>43464

>The second season is also highly recommended although they sadly changed the narrator in that one whom I thought wasn't as good as the one from the first season.

The second season of the documentary?

>>43438

It's painful, but just remember that if a sequel series were made today, it would almost assuredly look many times worse than the original. The cel days just aren't coming back.

>>43262

>>43266 (checked)

Is there a term for fantasy similar to Lodoss, Dragon-Half, and Bastard!! ? All three are clearly influenced by standard western fantasy, but elevated much higher than any of that generic /tg/ crap. Amon saga is somewhat similar, but that's more sword and sorcery ala guin saga novels.

>>43566

>Is there a term for fantasy similar to Lodoss, Dragon-Half, and Bastard!! ?

Actual fantasy with no RPG bullcrap.

>>43506

This, and the fact that they also animated Angel Links (which Outlaw Star was actually a spin-off from) afterwards, and it was absolute trash. I'm not one to shit on current anime, but a modern sequel would be full of CG and potential bouts of QUALITY depending on the studio and budget/time constraints.

I'm also okay with it ending on the note of Gene and pals going on more adventures after getting out of that mess than watching them suffer in a mediocre cash cow sequel.

>>43570

It's kinda sad that they were originally going to make a sequel OVA soon after the series ended, but it never got anywhere due to its lack of popularity in Japan. As much as I'd like to see Gene and the gang on another adventure, it's better that it ended on a high note.

>>33184

Loved the original series to death, but stopped after that because I got too attached to watch other pilots

However,

>not having too much fun with Macross Plus

Oh man, I'm sorry to hear that. It was only like 2 hours though.

>>37414

That's the whole point of the series. Kenshin doesn't want to fight anymore, he doesn't want the action like in the prequel movie. His whole life was getting beat up by his master, killing people and doing as he told, but he left that behind. You could say it's a story about being rehabilitated. If you think becoming a decent human being is gay then that's your opinion, but that's what makes the series makes so special.

>>43568

>Actual fantasy with no RPG bullcrap

That makes the most sense, as dnd is at least 85% Tolkien plagiarism even if the original developers swear they never read his work. Anti-Tolkien might be a good alternative, seeing as many of the mentioned anime have no obligation to be tied down to European myths.

>>44138

i recall gary gygax mentioning that he was heavily influenced by tolkien. the tolkien influence is everywhere, so it makes sense that he was.

i personally love the dnd/rpg aswell as the tolkien-style fantasy settings.

dragonlance in particular was amazing.

>>43110

I have no idea what you and the other are arguing about, but you seriously need to kill yourself.

>>44240

Just ignore it and continue with the thread

>>44240

It was originally meant to be a discussion about Cowboy Bebop but the guy derailed it.

>>44241

NO

let them keep going

throw in a knife or something

>>43566

Actual fantasy.

>>44138

It's almost like you never read Appendix N.

There was a whole wealth of fantasy from before Tolkien was a thing and Gygax makes a pretty good list of all the good shit that inspired him to make D&D. It's not all Tolkien.

>>43568

>Actual fantasy with no RPG bullcrap.

>Lodoss

You're kidding, right?

Are all the Ys stories generic? Finished Ys 1 recently and the story was a bit too corny for my taste, and I usually love corny medieval settings.

>>50078

Yes. Ys and the Tales series are the pinnacle of generic JRPGs.

>>49537

>she

>>9436

>Tenchi Muyou and Yu Yu Hakasho

I thought I was the only one whoever liked these shows. Tenchi Muyou is such an underatted series that was overshadowed by Evangelion over the years. If anyone has not watched it yet I would advise them to do so.

>>9924

Back then Story and plot was not really the main focus. Entertainment was. You did not really have a lot of people come into their own until the 90s during that time.

>>54650

>I thought I was the only one whoever liked these shows. Tenchi Muyou is such an underatted series

Tenchi Muyou was fairly well known in it's prime from what I recall. Though yes Ebinjellion seems to overshadow it in terms of popularity among animu nerds later on. But Tenchi is still pretty good.

>>54655

Just before the toonami kicked off the western anime bubble of the late 90s the most popular anime of the time was stuff like Ranma 1/2, Tenchi Muyo, El Hazard, Slayers, Dirty Pair, Galaxy Express, etc.

Evangelion was big but the largest chunk of western fans didn't come around until years after it came out. 90s era toonamitards poisoned western anime fandom, I liked it better when anime fans were unapologetic nerds and ex military guys that got hooked on manga while stationed in Japan. Now anime is forever plagued with retards that can't get over shonenshit and edgelords that get mad about cute girls in anime because they need to validate their masculinity through foreign cartoons.

>>54874

I should add Eva wasn't a toonami show, but oddly enough that crowd got drawn to it as babby's first DEEP anime. Eva was good and I don't have anything against it, but holy shit did it bring out a lot of faux-intellectual asswipes in western fandom. Basically you had some DBZ/Bebop kiddies seeing Eva and thinking it was the equivalent of being "redpilled." That's probably why newer generation anime fans are confused and turned off to the franchise. That and the rebuild movies go from interesting and full of potential to a nonsensical trainwreck within one film.

>>54876

>that whole post

Are you me? Seconding this.

Eva isn't exactly bad, much on the contrary. But was ruined by fandom. Serious discussion of it is impossible but also unnecessary, it's one of those series that was analysed front to back already

>>56061

Key's the sort of show where finding anything out about it from anything other than watching it does it a huge disservice. I'm pretty pleased with how rare spoilers are, but I realize that's probably because most people never watched anything but the OP.

>>56266

I used to but I sold my dvd player. I regret doing it.

>>56266