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>>69713

Was, until the power turned him crazy.

>>69713

No, since he killed his first victim.

And he wasnt smart because he just outsmarted retards.

>>69713

No, but his actions still had an arguably good effect on the world in the short-term. He was a megalomaniac from the very start though. Changing society was clearly a secondary goal for him with establishing himself as the ultimate 'justice' in everyone's eyes being the primary goal. Otherwise he wouldn't have made such a statement to bring the world's attention to 'Kira' by provoking L and other such things, wouldn't have cared about his personal lifespan as the eye deal would clearly have given him an upper hand in changing the world more effectively, and he wouldn't have limited his killings to people already thought of as criminals that the average person would consider 'bad'.

>>69716

L wasn't a moron, nor were the other police officers. They did good work under some really rough circumstances. Catching a killer who can kill with a pen and a piece of magical paper; that should be almost impossible.

>>69713

He didn't find all "holocaust survivors" and "naive among the nations" to write them down in the death note, so no.

>>69720

He should've been killing important politicians and businessmen and not street thugs that'll probably be shived by a cokefiend in near future.

Yormungand is better series about making the world a better place.

>>69715

>power corrupts

power reveals

is a person really good if the only thing stopping them from going evil is a lack of power?

He's a good swimmer

>>69733

Where do you draw the line then? Even the most generous saint-like existence can turn evil if given a specific extent of power. You can't consider anyone good no matter what they do.

>>69742

> Even the most generous saint-like existence can turn evil if given a specific extent of power.

i disagree

>>69742

>Where do you draw the line then? Even the most generous saint-like existence can turn evil if given a specific extent of power.

If that's true, then why didn't Lincoln let the army and the politicians plunder the South as compensation for the previous 4 years? They had every right to do so.

>>69746

Some people really like to maintain the moral high ground. It's just their way of thinking they're better than everyone else

He lost, so no.

>>69744

Everything after episode 25 is retarded bullshit that never happened.

>>69742

What is morality, and where does it come from? This is a non-rhetorical question with a definite answer.

>>69775

>What is morality, and where does it come from?

Religion

Not really. He was ridiculously full of himself, abused the power he had, and went around killing cops and purse snatchers like a retard so he could revel in "being the god of this world". He saved people in a hostage situation, which was nice, though looking at the history of those they very rarely end well for the one holding people hostage. Maybe killing murderers was a good thing, but I don't know the circumstances of most of those criminals' incarceration or what they killed for so I can't say. As long as people toed the line Light found okay, which seemed to move around a bit, they wouldn't get killed. All we have to work with is Light's own behavior and motivations, which sound pretty on paper but in practice were a mess of self-righteous god complex and little respect for human life. Fucker needed therapy.

>>69732

BULLET IN MY BUTTOCK.

>>69742

I agree with anon. Having the power to actually do the things you want, whatever you want, shows your true colors. It may not be immediate but it will happen. When you can get away with anything it's easy to do whatever you want, it takes restraint and a lot of consideration of your actions to not make a mess of things depending on how powerful you actually end up.

>>69778

Kids who can't understand language at all shows a basic sense of fairness and morality in the most simple sense. Teaching people things with religion is one source, but not the only one.

>>69780

>Teaching people things with religion is one source, but not the only one.

But, there is no better source.

>A little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism; but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion.

-Francis Bacon: English philosopher, statesman, scientist, jurist, orator, essayist and author; called the father of empiricism (the practice of relying on observation and experiment especially in the natural sciences)

>Of course, the sovereign cure

for worry is religious faith.

>The turbulent billows of the fretful surface leave the deep parts of the ocean undisturbed; and to him who has a hold on vaster and more permanent realities, the hourly vicissitudes of his personal destiny seem relatively insignificant things. The really religious person is accordingly unshakable and full of equanimity, and calmly ready for any duty that the day may bring forth.

-William James: The first educator to offer a psychology course in the United States, James was one of the leading thinkers of the late nineteenth century and is believed by many to be one of the most influential philosophers the United States has ever produced, while others have labelled him the "Father of American psychology". Along with Charles Sanders Peirce and John Dewey, he is considered to be one of the major figures associated with the philosophical school known as pragmatism, and is also cited as one of the founders of functional psychology.

>During the past thirty years, people from all the civilised countries of the earth have consulted me. I have treated many hundreds of patients. Among all my patients in the second half of life-that is to say, over thirty-five-there has not been one whose problem in the last resort was not that of finding a religious outlook on life. It is safe to say that every one of them fell ill because he had lost that which the living religions of every age have given to their followers, and none of them has been really healed who did not regain his religious outlook.

-Carl Jung: Swiss psychiatrist and psychoanalyst who founded analytical psychology

>Prayer is the most powerful form of energy one can generate. It is a force as real as terrestrial gravity. As a physician, I have seen men, after all other therapy had failed, lifted out of disease and melancholy by the serene effort of prayer. … Prayer like radium is a source of luminous, self-generating energy. … In prayer, human beings seek to augment their finite energy by addressing themselves to the Infinite source of all energy. When we pray, we link ourselves with the inexhaustible motive power that spins the universe. We pray that a part of this power be apportioned to our needs. Even in asking, our human deficiencies are filled and we arise strengthened and repaired. … Whenever we address God in fervent prayer, we change both soul and body for the better. It could not happen that any man or woman could pray for a single moment without some good result.

-Alexis Carrel: French surgeon and biologist who was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1912 for pioneering vascular suturing techniques, invented the first perfusion pump with Charles A. Lindbergh

>>69786

>>69778

Ah, so those Mayan religions, the ones that sing the virtues of torture and human sacrifice–They're a great beacon of virtuosity? Islam, which forbids music, art, and reasoning, is a definitive source of morals?

Is that really what you're going with?

>>69792

kill all jews

>>69789

Well, let's actually look at the facts. When the Mayans existed centuries ago, just about every corner of the world followed one religion or another, and they were defeated by followers of another religion. Same things with the Muslims back then.

Now let's fast forward to today's world.

Religion is dying in the Western world (With it projected to sharply grow over the next few decades), and it seems to come almost as some surprise that the ones overtaking much of the Western world are Muslims (Devout followers of a religion).

>>69792

>He's probably one of those "missionaries" from /christian/ hoping to convert we godless anime-loving heathens to a more constructive path.

I'm just bringing up the subject on religion in general. You're the one talking about Christianity. However, if you want to talk about it, how about let's bring up how both it and Judaism are actually dying in Europe and America?

>>69796

Mentioning a board because they've been known to do "missionary work" on other boards doesn't mean someone is actually discussing Christianity. If the board when by the name /blobfetishists/ and acted the same way I'd have still mentioned them.

>I'm just bringing up the subject on religion in general.

Instead of talking about the series at all.

>However, if you want to talk about it, how about let's bring up how both it and Judaism are actually dying in Europe and America?

I don't. This is an anime and manga board. If I wanted to argue about religion I'd have gone somewhere else. I'll leave you to it.

>>69720

>wouldn't have cared about his personal lifespan as the eye deal would clearly have given him an upper hand in changing the world more effectively

That was clearly a bad deal. If he had shortened his life by half then he would have died even earlier than his ability to supposedly defeat the supergenius kids the cops always have on call.

>>69792

>What would you do if you had a Death Note?

Kill every single billionaire in the world and then move onto their bought off politicians.

On the topic of death note, what would happen if

>someone after legally changing his name (marriage, immigration, etc.) would have either new or old name put in the note.

>What if a possible condition for a kill was written beforehand, but namespace was physically cut out of the note: "___/will die in a car accident"

>>69780

> Maybe killing murderers was a good thing

Killing murderers is the clearest, most basic action of justice.

funny how in (((EU))) it's outlawed

>>69789

Without a religion it's hard to introduce morality beyond "don't murder, steal, and rape"

>>69814

Underrated post but just to be more down on earth I just perceive religion as a social and psychological necessity for eusocial sapient animals. A creature that has the potential to rationalize its inherent urges for survival and reproduction is prone to perceiving them as pointless and therefore prone to blackpilling and nihilism, not to mention what it'd mean for social interactions in which everyone tries to be a trustless manipulative sociopath and/or a yolo-hedonist. Even is societies where there's millennia old social contracts like the West and China the moment secularism became the mainstream degeneracy and doubt of the original attitudes that held social cohesion together started to rapidly crumble. There's a good reason leftwing thinking has become cult-like and liberalism has paradoxically become a politically correct tyranny, gods and traditional morality have been replaced with the idol of egalitarianism in an attempt to prevent society from crumbling back to barbarism **that would also mean the end of their naturally unsustainable ideologisms".

>>69848

Very badly formulated post, should not have typed before my coffee.

>>69821

And then everyone lost their jobs because their bosses died

>>69850

Oh no, people might be self-employed again instead of working in cubicle farms or Jeff Bezos' WAGECAGE™

>>69789

>Islam, which forbids music, art, and reasoning, is a definitive source of morals?

As much as I hate Islam, especially after 400 years of the vilest enslavement my people were subjected to, we both have to admit that they are currently thriving and rapidly expanding, that makes them more darwinically fit than any other mainstream religion and especially much more fit than secular societies.

>>69851

That's as likely to happen as you are to be self employed right now.

>>69821

Fuck off, /leftypol/. Back to your hellhole.

>>69792

>What would you do if you had a Death Note?

Exterminate humanity.

>>69852

>that makes them more darwinically fit than any other mainstream religion and especially much more fit than secular societies

Secular societies have no hard counter against degenerate bullshit that the Jews are pushing, so that's why the West is failing spectacularly.

As for other religions, they have very loose and unstructured foundations; which makes them very easy to be secularized, and cucked.

It's good to see that Orthodox Christianity (the only uncucked Christianity) are still anti-degeneracy.

>>69792

Exterminate every government official in the US, the EU, Russia, and China, and also as many heads of corporations as I can get.

>>69858

I don't see how that is bad advice

>>69792

>What would you do if you had a Death Note?

I would find a way to destroy it and then kill all the demons or what ever the fuck that thing was.

>>69713

He had the right idea but was too autistic to execute it.

>>70082

Idea of becoming a god was pretty bad and accomplishing it by killing random shoplifters was even worse.

>>69792

kill all jews and 3d roasties