No.57445
I don’t get the appeal of tsundere types. An MC has to endure 12-24 episodes of verbal and physical abuse, which could translate into months within the timeline of the anime, to maybe not even getting the bitch by the time the anime is over. So why?
No.57446
once you get past the tsun, you get the dere + it sets up a barrier to NTR as anyone else slightly interested in tsunshit gf would have to deal with the tsun for months
i'm glad the shitty tsundere fad is dead though. remember when zero no tsukaima was airing and every fucking anime had a tsundere love interest?
No.57450
>>57446
That was 4 seasons of torture. But it was somewhat tolerable because it had something resembling a plot that distracted you from wanting to eat a shotgun shell because Louise was such a cunt.
But Toradora. Jesus Christ. I punched my monitor.
No.57453
>>57446
i really enjoyed Zero no Tsukaima, but it was in spite of louise's bullshit, not because of it. the ending was worth it, very satisfying.
>>57450
ToraDora was unironically good. i eventually grew to like taiga, but it was still satisfying to see her get rejected by protag's friend (whom she formerly put into the friendzone).
No.57457
>>57453
Taiga was a bit much for me. She reminded me of the pure masochism of Love Hina where the MC got daily beatings just for looking at the female characters the wrong way.
No.57458
>>57446
>it sets up a barrier to NTR
Rape is still a thing you know
No.57459
>>57445
>I don’t get the appeal of tsundere types
I also don't get why some nips (or anyone, really) are into humiliation play, but whatever. There might be a conection there.
The alternative to being an M would be to have the satisfaction of turning someone who has a low opinion of you into an admirer. Which still isn't my thing. If a girl is hostile to me that just tells me to not associate with her.
No.57462
it's like monstergirls, the tsun is on the outside.
No.57465
Tsundere isn't a fundamentally bad character archetype. A tsundere doesn't have to be violent or assault the male character from the slightest thing, but because nip writers are shit they usually do, which is what makes the characters bad.
Talltaiga is an example of a good Tsundere I think. She's not abusive and understands that her behavior isn't good, she wants to be seen/treated as a girl but she just can't be honest with herself.
No.57471
>>57465
I’m not sure what this type is called, but it seems to be a subset of tsundere. They seem hostile, but if you defeat them in some way, like in combat, they go all dere.
Some examples would be Laura Arseid from Legend of Heroes ToCS or Stella Vermillion. These types seem more satisfying.
No.57472
>>57471
battered-wife-dere
The more you slap her face, the more she loves you. If she doesn't love you yet, her eye isn't black enough.
No.57477
Everyone I've met that like tsundere shit is a massive cuck. I guess it comes from their own insecurities and how they are not really worthy for the relationship or some shit like that.
No.57478
>>57477
Is this an organized effort to fuck with 8chan's anime boards somehow? There's way too many posts along the lines of "X is for cucks/soy/etc" lately.
No.57479
>>57446
>remember when zero no tsukaima was airing and every fucking anime had a tsundere love interest?
that cartoon wasnt the reason for tsundere love interest maymay
>it sets up a barrier to NTR as anyone else slightly interested in tsunshit gf would have to deal with the tsun for months
>implying a character with balls wouldnt just kiss and impregnate her in the spot
>>57453
>the ending was worth it, very satisfying.
how did that shit ended? i dropped when MC got resurrected by titty elf and his wife still treated him like shit.
>>57471
>I’m not sure what this type is called, but it seems to be a subset of tsundere. They seem hostile, but if you defeat them in some way, like in combat, they go all dere.
that is the classical tsundere, they are hostile to the male, but once they finally fall in love for whatever reason they go full lovey dovey
No.57482
>>57446
>tsundere fad is dead
Come to think of it, I don’t remember seeing them lately. Now it’s just lolis, monster girls, and moë
No.57483
>>57479
>how did that shit end
they got married
No.57487
>>57465
A lot of writers just don't know how to do tsundere. If she's bipolar or she's only tsun for a second, that isn't real tsundere.
No.57488
>>57483
but he was already married
No.57489
>>57488
Was he? To who? I don’t remember but that is how the series ended
No.57491
>>57487
Yeah but what was the appeal of that other than dragging out a romance for 12-24 episodes?
No.57492
>>57491
What's the appeal of anything if you don't want to see the relationship progress over time?
No.57496
>>57479
>>57489
>>57488
they got semi-married before he went off to fight the whole army by himself and then died and got resurrected.
it ended by them using louise's void magic to go back to protag's world/earth and live happily ever after. they had to defeat this huge demonic dragon/elemental thing first, however.
No.57498
>>57496
>using louise's void magic to go back to protag's world/earth
This honestly annoys me the most, that's the beginning of potentially the most interesting arc in the entire story, but instead it's basically half a credits scene.
No.57499
>>57498
To be fair the author died so that was tacked on to finish the series.
No.57506
>>57465
She seems like she has an interesting backstory and she’s just misunderstood but in the case of short taiga, there was little reward. Will check this anime out.
No.57510
>>57496
>it ended by them using louise's void magic to go back to protag's world/earth and live happily ever after
why did the MC wanted to go back to earth? did they ever explained that part?
>>57499
>To be fair the author died
damn.
No.57511
>>57510
In the epilogue dialogueless credits he introduces Louise to his parents as his bride and then they go back to their manor.
No.57517
>>57511
>he wanted to go back to his family
that makes sense.
No.57520
>>57517
>have waifu
>have harem of secondary sluts in case waifu is shitty
>have fame
>have status as a knight (or someshit)
[desire to go back to nihon and wageslave intensifies]
No.57538
>>57520
>have harem of secondary sluts in case waifu is shitty
they all shit, anyway
>[desire to go back to nihon and wageslave intensifies]
>MC has a manor back at home
>wageslave
>manor
anon…
No.57596
Tsundere was never about violence or verbal abuse, just haughtiness. That's what separates true tsundere from dogshitdere.
No.57649
>>57478
/pol/ and /qresearch/ bring in droves of meme spouting normalfags and redditors that try way too hard to fit in. Every board is infested with them. That's why half the threads turn into political arguments where anons try to win by posting screencaps of posts and charts from /pol/ in hopes that either side doesn't realize said posts and charts contain unsourced bullshit that someone pulled out of their ass.
No.57864
>>57478
/pol/cucks think anime is means to a end rather then entertainment
No.57900
Go whinge about the /pol/ boogeyman on /leftypol/, not here.
No.57927
>>57487
What is wrong with Stella? She stops being a cunt early on and you actually see their relationship develop.
No.57934
>>57900
/pol/ was perfectly fine. Post election nu/pol/ is full of retards, boomers, and edgy teenagers that don't belong on imageboards. When /pol/ goes back to demanding proper sources and intelligent discussion instead of circlejerking in threads about random magatard tweets maybe I'll respect them again.
>>57927
There is nothing wrong with Stella, the creator of that chart has shit taste. Also her show was one of the better battle harems before they got wiped out by the isekai craze.
No.57939
>Tsundere likes someone but they're a violent cunt around them.
>Guy gets pissed off and actually hits them back.
Has this actually happened before?
No.57941
I also do not find the appeal of this type of tsundere.
The only one I find attractive is Senyogajara from Bakemonogatari.
No.57968
>>57649
>/pol/ and /qresearch/ bring in droves of meme spouting normalfags and redditors that try way too hard to fit in.
Someone in /pol/ said that /leftypol/acks has been pretending as /pol/niggers, derailing thread and falseflagging against anyone in any board slightly leaning left compared to anyone who unironically believes "Hitler did nuffin' wrong".
Won't believe that though, they just can't admit that they're full of shit nowadays and found another boogeymen to complain about.
Taking Occam's Razor into consideration, your statement is much more believable.
>>57900
Compelling dubs.
It's true however. Nowadays both /pol/ and /leftypol/ is all about playing the blame game and waving the victim cards, the really striking difference lies only in their boogeymen of choice.
>>57934
>/pol/ was perfectly fine. Post election nu/pol/ is full of retards
And humans need water to survive.
Big news.
>>57939
Weren't the main couple in Toradora used to fight before getting all lovey-dovey?
That made me think however, how come this almost never happened in anime before?
>>57941
She's more Kuudere than Tsundere, or so I think.
No.57979
>>57864
>/pol/cucks think anime is means to a end rather then entertainment
AN end
No.58107
>>57968
the worst thing about /pol/ and /leftypol/ of today are exactly that, their obsessions with their own respective bogeymen while after the last election it's obvious that both of them will not be able to change things in america to be more in accordance with their respective ideologies through voting at all. compared to that the situation in europe is a lot more clear cut since the nations there have been correct in feeling they have been fucked in the ass one too many times by the eu. america on the other hand was just business as usual from the elite class in providing bread and circuses for their population. not a lefty btw, their shit is way cringier than /pol/'s who at least can make sensible arguments from time to time
No.58113
>>57968
hitler truly did nothing wrong, though.
also, the ones accused of falseflagging aren't the ones who support hitler as such, but rather, the ones who come into threads and say shit like "we need to take action and immediately begin killing all women/journalists/lefties" or, conversely, sperging out to an insane degre to make the pro-hitlerites look as bad as possible by pretending to be one of them.
however, considering that it's not /pol/ (pre-election, anyway) that's trying to worm its' way into anime and vidya and fill them with pozz, it's not really accurate to claim they're both equally guilty, since one group supports pozzing up all entertainment to serve their own ends and the other opposes this.
No.58117
>>58113
>don't listen to generals
>take obvious british bait
>move armies out of position allowing allied invasion of sicily
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mincemeat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barclay
>force best tank commander to commit suicide because of hearsay from a coerced confession
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_Rommel
>lost the war against communism, condemning nationalism worldwide for at least another 70 years by any standard
really the good things he did were inspiring his people after the demoralization from ww1 and switching their currency to cut out the (((international debtors)))
sage for /pol/ faggotry
No.59214
>>57465
I started watching this anime. Talltaiga isn’t actually that bad at all. She’s nowhere near as annoying as Taiga.
No.59236
There is probably a reason for that, OP.
No.59244
>>57939
Didn’t that happen in Nisekoi? I recall the MC fighting back, though more so with choice words
No.59246
>>59236
>Kurisu is Tusndere done wrong
Fucking what?
No.59296
Anime imitates reality, reality imitates anime (in the same way that it imitates/is composed of collective dreams). Tsundere in real life is called Borderline Personality Disorder or anxious attachment. These couples function in real life because the male/non-tsundere partner over-identifies with the pain of the tsundere (the reason for her anger, aka her fear of her own feelings and the terror she experiences when vulnerable). It's usually a sign of past abuse on both sides. For the non-tsundere, he/she accepts the abuse because he believes he can shoulder both of their pain. He is an emotional masochist because he was taught at an early age that he must account for others happiness and give to them in order to prevent being abandoned.
No.59343
>>59296
Interesting insight, mate, but that only seems to explain the behaviours of Modern Tsundere and her partner.
What would happen if those couples have kids? Would they inherit their parents' traits?
No.59392
>>59343
per Akkun to Kanojo, yes definitely
No.59417
>>57487
Houki is good. But best tsundere is Kirino Kousaka. 桐乃很好.
No.59463
>>59343
Yes, in my opinion these things are always inherited, and always a repeat of childhood trauma into adulthood, rinse repeat.
No.59572
>>59467
Naah! I like Kirino. Please edit your image and make Kirino dere. Please. Please. Waaah!!!
No.59637
>>59572
You were supposed to go away, Kirinofag.
No.59658
>>59637
Nooo! Please don't say mean things to me and my waifu.
No.59714
>>59658
After one of you shoah'd this entire board once from sheer hue hue butthurt about /pol/, I can only say one thing to you:
EAT SHIT, FAGGOT
No.59717
>>57596
I thought tsundere was the anime equivalent of a shit test?
No.59721
>>59236
What a shitty picture
No.59735
>>57482
I know, it’s great isn’t it? I hope this fad never ends.
No.59739
>>59735
>Merunyaa
This is an anime board, not a shit taste Quebecois board.
No.59745
>>57491
The point of a tsundere was that the girl had really high standards and she sees that the MC (usually a bumbling retard) has the potential to be that perfect guy but he is too busy being an idiot.
In the end the girl realises that her high standards are stupid as fuck and she starts appreciating MC for who he is instead of trying to turn him into a completely different person.
So instead of being just an annoying bitch that treats you like shit just because she's in a bad mood,she actually was a person that cares about you and wants you to become a better person but is too demanding.
No.59774
>>59714
No. I'll cry.
>>59721
T-thank you, anon-kun.
No.59784
Kirino is love, Kirino is life.
Kirino is Tsundere, done right.
桐乃非常好
我很喜欢桐乃
No.59790
tsundere fans/protags are the original soyboy beta cucks.
>OH MAN SHE TREATS ME LIKE ABSOLUTE GARBAGE AND STRINGS ME ALONG WITH THE RARE ACCIDENTAL DISPLAY OF AFFECTION THAT'S SO MILD IT COULD EASILY JUST BE MY DELUSIONAL IMAGINATION, WHILE I GROVEL WITH MY WALLET OPEN AT HER FEET! ONE DAY I MIGHT GET A KISS! THIS IS AMAZING!
If I wanted to be a fucking orbiter I'd just go after 3D girls.
No.59794
the worst is multi-season shows where the girl starts full tsun, end of season full dere; next season the relationship resets and she is tsun again
>>59790
self esteem.flac
No.60670
>>59790
>If I wanted to be a fucking orbiter I'd just go after 3D girls.
kek, true
I only like tsunderes that turned into full on deres, bc that means she learned her lesson
No.60704
>>60670
aqua never stops being tsun though. she's more like a guy friend than a girl friend :^)
>>60662
clearly a yandere, check your eyes
No.60707
>>60704
>she's more like a guy friend with a hot female body that you would fuck
unfortunately, yes
No.60732
>>59236
>Akane Tendo
>Done wrong
She was just fine given her foil was just as, if not fucking more, tsundere than she was.
No.60733
>>60732
>having constant violent outbursts towards love interest
That's the most terrible form of tsundere that ever existed, anon.
No.60754
>>60733
you cant blame her, she has the worst boyfriend
No.60942
what if it's a fetishization of 3dpg?
cute anime girls <> tsundere, yandere,etc <> 3dpg (yan,tsun,etc)
No.62781
it's cute because they are girls and are feminine, the attraction comes from the allowing them to abuse you, cause you could just hit them back or ditch them, but you love them because they are tsun so you endure. It's cute. They make you want to bully them or protect them. Plus once they love you they wont hit you hard anymore unless you embarrass them or break their hearts. And they love you harder than anyone. And they're so mean and toxic that no one else will like them so they can't cheat. Why wouldn't you want a tsundere gf? They are clingy, they will try to hit you for not paying attention to them and then hit you for paying too much attention to them, or something like that. It's the allowing them to abuse you is why it's hot, I loved toradora, taiga is ultimate gf. They're only tsun because they're weak. Makes you want to protect. Toradora pissed me off with mc's friend though that guy was a cucking douchebag and I dont know why taiga liked him but it pissed me off seeing her like someone else. That was very not tsundere of her in that arc she was a bitch in that arc
No.62783
>>62781
also while I do like violent tsundere because I like the jealousy and whatnot, the tsunderes that are not mean are nice too. Like the ones that just pout or give you the silent treatment. Tsundere is arguably girliest archetype. I think it's cute
No.62816
It's a forced meme, just like all anime girls.