No.47858
So /animu/ what are your thoughts on Miyzakai's works and the man himself in general?
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No.47871
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I respect the man and the love he put into his craft and unironically agree with a lot of his stances on the anime industry. His films truly have beautiful artwork and animation and manage to take the viewer on a journey to a fictional world in a way that you normally could only experience with a fictional work when you are a child. If anime continues to decline like it does now, I doubt that anime will ever see a film director (or director in general) that will top the likes of his best works like Mononoke and Nausicaa.
He has become a controversial figure but the fact that people talk shit about someone who has worked for anime in decades because he said anime lacks interesting characters and creativity (which it does) when he himself has put his fucking soul into everything he made says a lot about how retarded western anime fans really are. When I look at what he was making in the 80s and 90s and compare it to the kind of shit that gets "hyped up" today, I almost feel inclined to call his works underrated because his works are the kind of thing that's going to be in museums someday.
Now, on the infamous quote of his: it does seem like Miyazaki is one of those boomers who like to complain about young people not being social enough but lack the experience of growing up in modern society to understand what the cause of that is and how depressing it can be to live in a society that seemingly does not give anything, only take. Ironically, he himself has stated in some book he wrote in his 30s that when he was in college he mainly watched anime for escapism and in this book he does actually seem to acknowledge that the modern-day otaku is a result of depression and social isolation caused by the stressfulness of Japanese society so maybe he does actually understand but is just not willing to admit it now that those same otakus have ruined the medium he loved so much when he was young himself.
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No.47874
The whole "Anime was a mistake" quote is actually a misquote. His problem with modern anime according to him is that mangaka and writers in the industry for the most part regurgitate older popular works and give them a fresh coat of paint pretending to be new. He's disappointed in the lack of innovation and how the industry would rather play it safe reusing the same old formulas.
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No.47876
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No.47880
>>47874
>>47876
The product goes where the money is. Like post >>47871 noted, people are depressed and socially isolated, so what people want from anime has changed- frontiers look more dangerous and creature comforts look more satisfying when you're sick and tired. Expecting anime producers and directors to effect deep cultural change is expecting far too much from what remains a niche aspect of the Japanese entertainment industry. If any Japanese entertainment has a chance of changing Japan's culture, it'd be their much larger live-action television and movie industry, and they're not going to do it. In fact, I'd say Miyazaki's lament shows his realization that all entertainment is a byproduct of the greater cultural condition, which is currently not healthy.
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No.47881
I've seen this post around here and on other boards, thoughts?
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No.47903
>>47881
Valid criticism on societal values differing between the generations but it doesn't do much to explain why people are still uninspired and/or unable to create anything as inspiring. If you were to draw an analogy to music, you would have some of the greatest compositions made during periods of constant warring that have managed to survive the greater part of an epoch.
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No.47908
>>47903
My personal thoughts on this are, I don't think He is necessarily to blame but more his gen aka ww2 and boomers.
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No.47909
Him being critical of waifufags is hypocritical considering he was/is one himself
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No.47910
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No.47912
>>47910
Yeah I don't have the pic but he went to see an old chink movie a dozen times because he liked one of the girls in it
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No.47916
>>47912
This if true is pretty hypocritical.
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No.47918
Over rated.
He was a genius at world building but awful at story structure and pacing. Ive seen so many of his films but couldn't tell you what happens in any of them. I just remember specific set pieces and bits. (Like water dragon washing scene)
I consider "The Matrix" to be nearly flawless when it comes to pacing. I could grab a piece of paper and write out the timeline from memory.
Miyazaki's work lacks this level of competent pacing. His movies never say anything in specific. Missed opportunities
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No.47925
He's a good illustrator, but from what I've seen his pacing really doesn't suit films.
>>47910
>>47912
Yeah, he waifu'd a girl from the first full-length colour anime film, Panda and the Magic Serpent. It's a pretty important part of anime history even if it's just Toei trying their hardest to turn a Chinese folktale into a knockoff Disney film.
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No.47928
>>47918
To think Anime has only gotten worse over time for most part.
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No.47931
Overrated hack loved by normalfags. Also is a true bitch nigger whrn he talked shit about Tezuka after he died.
Tezuka broke way boundaries and was far more influential in being the true "Disney of anime".
>>47916
>>47910
>>47912
Here.
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No.47932
>>47918
>He was a genius at world building but awful at story structure and pacing.
In other words, a common criticism people have with most anime.
Miyazaki is a hypocritical fuck responsible for the same problems anime has today. If you fancy yourself as one of those posturing 90s anime hipsters who bitches and moans anime sucks now, Hayao is the last person you should cite as a credible source for criticism.
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No.47946
>>47931
Tezuka took direct inspiration from Disney and is considered to be the father of anime post rubberhose era. Tezuka was the one that created the famous "manga eyes", which became the basis of eyes most anime taken inspiration from. The inspiration for the eyes, according to Tezuka was Bambi. Bambi and the other animals in the movie had really huge adorable eyes, he liked them so much he decided to incorporate them into his human characters. The human characters are also based on Disney humans, but with the large Bambi eyes slapped onto them.
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No.47954
>>47931
>Miyazaki talking shit about Tezuka
sauce?
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No.47958
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No.47993
>>47954
>>47958
It happened in 1989 when Tezuka had just died. He basically shitposted about Tezuka's production style for the man's obituary message, which anyone would agree was done in bad taste. There are also multiple other comments by him which shows that he admits he is definitely influenced by Tezuka but he also actively tried to subvert the influence on himself by doing everything in a complete 180 degree turn from how he thought Tezuka would have done it, making him sort of a tsundere admirer if you catch my drift. Much like GRRM's relationship with Tolkien.
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No.48131
>>47881
Don't Japanese schools force students to join clubs exactly to increase social interaction among them?
>>47931
Maybe he's just ashamed of that part of his life (I'm talking about the waifu thing) as it was a result of loneliness and social isolation and he doesn't want other young people to end up like he did. Maybe he's just one of those angry grandpas who really do care but just show it though tough love.
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No.48155
>>48131
No, he's a hypocritical faggot.
Ghibli as a whole is shit. Hayao is an ungrateful liberal curmudgeon who churns out nice looking movies with bad writing and Takahada was a dictator who worked his subordinates to death.
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No.48158
Didn't expect to get such a passionate thread
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No.48164
>>48155
>nice looking movies with bad writing
Well, in the end he intended to make his films for children and I believe that his films do have more depth to them than the average western children's film. In terms of writing, his films were always more about the underlying message rather than telling a full story. Nausicaa and Mononoke were about pollution, Spirited Away was about child prostitution (I'm not making this up), Kiki's Delivery Service was about dealing with depression as a child etc.
It's true that he's a commie but every Jap who grew up after the war became one so that's more to blame on the people who conquered them and the social changes in their society.
>>48158
/animu/ is a passionate board.
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No.48169
>>48164
>/animu/ is a passionate board.
NO ANIMU IS A COMFY BOARD
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No.48170
>>48169
We're passionate about being comfy.
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No.48175
>>48170
I get excited about relaxing.
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No.48178
>>48164
>Spirited Away was about child prostitution (I'm not making this up)
Really?
> he's a commie
He isn't really a commie just a huge asshole, who has views that actually would be more in line with traditionalist values.
>While he is a feminist, his brand of it is basically you have the power but actually use it to be useful to society
>Believes in a traditional family
>Believes if you want change or something done you must do it with your own hands
>Good work must be made off the merit of convection
Miyzakai is an asshole, but he is one who did actually live through shit, WW2 had a really fucked up effect on him, especially since his father helped make the planes. I can understand why Him and Takahata had issues with War since they saw bombs that literally made people explode into ashes in front of them.
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No.48182
>>48164
>/animu/ is a passionate board.
Yes it is.
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No.48186
>>48164
>Spirited Away was about child prostitution (I'm not making this up),
You are making that up you fucking retard, since that theory was written by your average film critic who knows fuckall about anime.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirited_Away#Themes
Child sex trafficking has nothing to do with it.
>It's true that he's a commie but every Jap who grew up after the war became one
Yes, the country that had its first communist candidate for PM executed on live national TV is communist.
>>48178
>He isn't really a commie
He has a lot of commie tendencies such as his continued preaching of wanting to keep Japan a weak disarmed nation, or how he started up a labor union at Toei while working on Horus: Prince of the Sun.
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No.48196
>>48186
>says that theory was written by clueless faggots
>uses cuckpedia to get the list of themes
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No.48197
>>48186
>his continued preaching of wanting to keep Japan a weak disarmed nation,
It's a generational thing due to them living through being bombed to death.
>how he started up a labor union at Toei
I sorta understand due to how animators in japan are treated, but the right winger in me thinks all unions even ones based off good intentions will end up corrupt shitholes.
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No.48198
>>48178
>Really?
Spirited Away is about a young girl who is abandoned by her parents and then meets a strange man who tells her that her only way of surviving the hell she has found herself in is by working in the bathhouse. Here, she meets the "Madame" of the bathhouse who gives her a new name and forgots her old one (similar to how prostitutes normally have their own nickname like "candy" given to them by their pimps and are not allowed to use their real name when dealing with customers).
Then there is the fact that bathhouses used to actually have a secondary function as brothels during the Edo period, which were often used by older men who paid the servants of the bathhouse to have sex with them. The visitors of the bathhouse in the film are all seemingly male, the servants who have the task of washing visitors are female.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onsen_geisha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_prostitution_in_modern_Japan#Soapland
>Onsen geisha (温泉芸者) is are Japanese geisha, or entertainers, who work in onsen (hot spring) resorts or towns. The term onsen geisha has a negative connotation in that the term has come to be synonymous with prostitute. This is due to several reasons.
>Soaplands began when explicit prostitution in Japan became illegal in 1958, as a simple form of bath where women washed men's bodies. They were originally known as toruko-buro, meaning Turkish bath. Following a 1984 campaign by Turkish scholar Nusret Sancaklı (JA, TR) denouncing the use of this name for brothels, the new name "soapland" was the winning entry in a nationwide contest to rename them.
Lastly, in pre-WWII Japan, it was actually common for parents to sell their daughters to brothels if they felt that they were not disciplined enough and weren't of any use to them and the MC of Spirited Away does leave the bathhouse as a more matured person.
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No.48202
>>48198
Didn't Miyazaki himself outright state that there wasn't any of that in it?
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No.48256
>>48198
I forgot to mention that the actual term "Spirited Away", in Japanese Kamikakushi was used for strange disappearances, often seeing as something caused by angry gods. But in reality, it is believed that when Japanese women dissapeared in the past, it was because they were kidnapped from their homes and forced into prostitution.
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No.48284
>>48196
Post your "theories" then fag.
>>48198
>>48256
You also forgot to mention none of this is substantiated by Miyazaki and is speculation based on interpretations of film fag "critics".
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No.48310
>>48284
All of his films have an underlying message related to modern society, why wouldn't Spirited Away? Maybe he doesn't want to say it directly because it will ruin what seems like an innocent children's film to most people. Are you the same faggot who posts that screenshot of Anno talking to a bunch of children saying "it sounds complicated" all the time and therefore thinks Evangelion is just one big joke?
Directors don't always feel the need to reveal the exact meanings of their works, Kunihiko Ikuhara never revealed the meaning of certain things in Shoujo Kakumei Utena even though the show is 20+ years old.
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No.48331
>>48284
>I refuse to believe any speculations if they're not from kikepedia!
Imagine being this new.
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No.48348
Don't care for most of his other films to be honest, it feels like hardly anything ever happens in them. But Mononoke is definitely up there in my top favorite animus.
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No.48454
>>48310
>he thinks Eva was serious
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No.48667
>>48197
>It's a generational thing due to them living through being bombed to death.
It's a weird mindset. If your nation disarms it sure as hell doesn't mean your enemies/allies/other nations are going to do so too. UN sanctions mean basically nothing since even if everyone disarms according to UN resolutions or such shit, then the UN will be the only ones with weapons, and the ones with the weapons are the actual rulers of any society. John P. Hogan wrote something similar in theme which was later mangaified by Hoshino Yukinobu.
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No.48689
I liked all of his films barring ponyo, but hey're overrated by normalfags, particularly Spirited Away
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No.48693
>>48667
The Gen who lived during WW2 were fucked for life by it.
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No.48898
I can't believe Miyazaki is fucking dead.
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No.48900
>>48898
He'll live out of spite.
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No.48902
>>48900
What if Miyazaki is a ghost who cannot leave this world due to his never-ending hatred for the modern anime industry? How can we help him find peace?
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No.48917
Here is my two cents:
>Everything the guy has made is just a remake of his first five works (Pictured above)
>His last good film was Castle in the Sky
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No.48919
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No.48922
>>48917
Shuna no Tabi, I read at my school library and I'm still surprised to this day they had it.
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No.49104
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No.49106
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No.49137
>>48131
School clubs still mean being at school, doing things the school wants you to do, the way the school wants you to do them.
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No.50816
How come Miyazaki completely lost his ability to pace films after The Castle of Cagliostro? I've heard friends say his TV shows and manga had better pacing.
>>49104
>not making it greyscale
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No.50823
His movies are OK. But I would love them if they had big titty anime girls or pantyshots. I cannot enjoy anime without them.
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No.57359
>enjoyed Sabaku no Tami
>search around on the internet
>realise it was originally published in a fucking Japanese Communist Party magazine
>a fansite also claims Miyazaki was a Marxist until the late 80s and the Nausicaa manga somehow ties into him abandoning the Marx meme
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No.57360
>>50823
>pantyshots
Oddly enough all the pantyshots in Miyazaki's films are that of underage children. Same with topless shots and nude females. All kids.
Pedo much?
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No.57363
>>57359
Is it this one: https://archive.fo/q9sV4
>He was strongly influenced by Marxism. You have to understand that in Japan, the word "communism" isn't as demonized as in the US. Marxism as a theory to analyze society and history has been taught in universities. The Socialist Party had been the second largest party in Japan for a long time, and the Communist Party still holds seats in the Parliament. During the war, any political or labor movement was banned, and the communists were almost the only ones who vocally opposed the war. After the war, labor unions were allowed to be formed, and many of them were led by communists or communist sympathizers. Many were idealistic young people who believed in the future of "truly democratic Japan." Miyazaki was one of those young people, as was Takahata. (As the Russians say, "If you don't believe in Communism by the time you are 15, then you have no heart.")
>Miyazaki was the chairman of the animator's union at Toei Doga. The early works in which Miyazaki was involved, such as Horus or Conan, show his political beliefs somewhat. He once said he wasn't even sure about making Nausicaä a princess, since that "makes her an elite class." Pom Poko was basically the story of how the liberal movements in post-war Japan failed, according to Miyazaki.
>Around the end of the 1980s and the beginning of the 1990s, Miyazaki came to the conclusion that Marxism (and Historical Materialism) is wrong, and he totally forsook it. He said that his realization had more to do with writing Nausicaä than the collapse of the communist bloc. (As Russians continue, "And if you still believe in Communism by the time you are 30, then you have no brain.") You can clearly see how this turnabout affected him in how he ended the manga Nausicaä.
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No.57367
>>57363
That boy was a hero.
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No.57374
>>47858
His stuff ranges from great to mediocre and severely overrated. The memes about his bitterness towards the industry are cancer, and he's one of several old farts in the industry that are pissed that otaku didn't ride their dicks for 30+ years.
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No.57390
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No.57402
>>47858
The Sakuga that he makes is very good but the plots are nothing special, although that is not always the case.
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No.57416
>>57359
>>57363
>a fansite also claims Miyazaki was a Marxist until the late 80s
I can see why they thought that. In truth, he's an incredibly talented man with great ideas, shame that after those two big fireworks he got DETERRED hard and started resenting the losing side.
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No.57542
>>47858
There could've been a Ponyo 2 and My Neighbor Totoro is overhyped.
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No.57546
Most of his work is kinda of shit as a movie by standard definitions. They're incredibly pretty to look at and it's neat to see some dude's imagination just explode on screen for 2 hours, but I don't like his movies almost at all. Plot wise they're all meandering and incredibly indirect. Mononoke is one of the few that actually feels like it has a legitimate story and even then it takes way too long to tell it. I do genuinely appreciate the skill and imagination that goes into them but I can't enjoy the movies at all because I tend to focus on things like plot and writing. I don't mind that people love the movies, but it does irk me that people refer to them as "masterpieces" when most of them are horribly underwritten.
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No.57549
>>57363
Sounds like he was just another retarded radlib who never actually bothered to read Marx.
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No.57554
>>57546
Miyazaki, like most anime directors, is an illustrator promoted to director because people really liked his drawings. Sometimes this makes happy accidents Hideaki Anno is a good example but usually you get well-intended artfags who know little about cinematography, editing, or pacing but trying their best anyways. /film/fags like Mamoru Oshii have a serious advantage over their peers thanks to this and their work hints as what anime could become if only the average director knew what he was doing.
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No.57565
>>57549
Marx's book is absolute trite and it seems like Miyazaki woke up from the /leftycuck/ bullshit, he grow up and realized that this shit is retarded.
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No.57798
His storyboards are all amazing.
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No.57807
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No.57818
>I watched Nausicaa on a big screen. For me this was a re-encounter after 26 years. Near me sat Miya-san. When the screening room's lights dimmed, I tensed up. My firsts clenched, and became sweaty. Then, Nausicaa started. Whenever we finish making a film, we don't watch it again, neither do we want to. This is the only way we can go to the next film.
-Toshio Suzuki
What kind of autist never rewatches his own work? How can you learn from your mistakes if you never look back?
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No.58129
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No.58133
>>57818
>the the first experince with nausicaa was a doujin where she gets knocked up by a bunch of bugs
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No.58134
>>58133
damn i remember that one; came across it on sadpanda a few years back.
was pretty fucked up, but not so much that i was unable to make use of it.
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No.58135
>>58133
I used to love reading that. Don't know why.
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No.58141
>>58129
>Evangelion was a mistake
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No.58142
>>58141
The doc of this is hilarious, they legit got him on because they wanted to bully Anno.
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No.58150
>>58146
Speaking of his movies, a stream of one of them is going on.
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No.58158
>>58134
>>58135
It had some damn good art though.
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No.61442
>Miyazakifags never shut up about Porco Rosso being an amazingly underrated movie
>I like the premise
>watch it
>less interesting characters than Miyazaki's previous films
>women throw themselves at Miyazaki's self-insert for no obvious reason despite having a fucking pig's face
>usual lack of pacing
>a couple good scenes don't make up for the rest of the movie
At least it was pretty and had lots of flying boats.
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No.61445
>>58142
Wait, it's real? I thought those were joke subs
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No.61456
>>61442
Porco Rosso's fine, but my favourite is Spirited Away. I don't know how else to describe it, but it feels the comfiest of all his movies.
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No.61459
he did good animes
but I do not know if that's what they say, what he said about the otakus
If so, then I do not know what to think of the man in question, it is almost as if he were denigrating his direct market
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No.61468
>>61445
No they legit bullied him
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No.62869
>>57549
Marz is a gay fag.
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No.62899
>>48917
This explains a lot now.
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No.62933
>>48917
>Everything the guy has made is just a remake of his first five works
Even that manga adapting a German tank commander's autobiography?
>His last good film was Castle in the Sky
>not Kiki's Delivery Service
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No.63001
All of the best Ghibli films were the ones directed by Takahata
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No.63009
>>57818
From what I've seen this isn't uncommon. Once they've left editing and it's out to print, a lot of them move on. I know Rowan Atkinson has said he's never watched anything he's been in, except once on an in-flight movie.
I think Miyazaki's best stuff is his artbooks. His films can be really good, but ironically I love him the most when he's just going full otaku over plane/tank designs. This is probably why Porco Rosso is my favorite, since a good amount of the film is just seeing his designs flying about.
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No.63042
>>63009
He is autism over planes, but it's the right kind of autism.
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No.64709
>>63009
>>63042
>massive /k/ autist who obsessively draws diagrams of tanks and aircraft
>wrote multiple manga about /k/ stuff
>very little of this makes it into his films
>autistically refuses to pace his films properly
>ghiblishitters grow up with these movies and turn into annoying leftist pansies
It still hurts.
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No.64718
>>64709
He also drew a fuck ton of guns and types of Guns used in Nasscia the manga.
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No.64725
>>64718
Please learn English.
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No.64739
>>63009
>>64709
Fuck, knowing that hurts.
Myiazaki is the ultimate sellout.
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No.64750
>>64725
Your /jp/ is showing
please stay, also make idol threads, I need 3d japs in my life
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No.64753
>>64750
Sorry to disappoint you, but I think I've only visited /jp/ once in my life.
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No.65394
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No.65400
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No.65403
>>65394
Is that shittingdicknipples?
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No.65407
>>58129
laughed my fucking ass off
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No.65409
>>65407
Anno just exist to be bullied.
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No.65467
>>63009
His plane and tank designs are the shit, that's one of the reasons why I love the Nausicaa manga so much. Those huge fortress planes get my dick harder than any big tiddy ara or lewd loli in the world
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No.65539
>>65467
A true /k/ommando.
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No.65568
>>65409
The master doesn't deserve this.
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No.65569
>>65568
don't know why but this made me laugh.
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No.65615
>>47871
>Ironically, he himself has stated in some book he wrote in his 30s that when he was in college he mainly watched anime for escapism and in this book he does actually seem to acknowledge that the modern-day otaku is a result of depression and social isolation caused by the stressfulness of Japanese society so maybe he does actually understand but is just not willing to admit it now that those same otakus have ruined the medium he loved so much when he was young himself.
I think the source is Starting Point: 1979-1996.
>>47993
When you read this post, and then find out that Anno and Miyazaki were best-of-buds, this clip either depicts Miyazaki as one of the most spiteful people in the industry or a grade A shitposter: >>58129
>>57360
>Pedo much?
Read second pic: >>47931
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No.65627
>>65615
Miyazaki I guess is a weird mix of both, as he is a spiteful old fuck and in the same breath is master shitposter.
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No.70665
Thoughts on Studio Ponoc?
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No.70698
>>65627
>in the same breath is master shitposter.
I doubt it since the left can't meme.
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No.70699
>>47931
This. Also self-proclaimed communist scum and you now know why he is so overrated.
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No.70700
>>70699
Didn't he snap out of the marxist meme?
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No.70703
>>70700
Only death can cure marxism.
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No.70713
>this entire thread
Well I just like Ghibli's movies.
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No.70716
>>70699
That's fucking tragic if true. Guy's an obvious dick that overworks his staff and hogs all the glory but I didn't think he'd be any worse than that.
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No.72301
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No.72311
>>72301
fugg, that's my cue
Otto Carius - Tigers in the Mud
Some of you faggots haven't read this adaption of the famous German tank commander's autobiography. I'm here to correct that.
1/7
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No.72312
>>72311
Why didn't he animate this shit?
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No.72314
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No.72316
>>72314
3/7
>>72312
The comic is really fond of its notes, maps, and old man grumbling. None of those would really work in an animated movie and you'd be missing out on his grungy watercolours.
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No.72317
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No.72318
>clock time matches the year of the historical manga you're uploading
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No.72320
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No.72322
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No.72324
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No.72325
The artwork here is so good and it makes me question why didn't he do shorts of this?
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No.72340
>>72311
>>72314
>>72316
>>72317
>>72320
>>72322
>>72324
This is a damn beautiful story, and the best work I've seen him create.
Why is it everything else of his is so dry and preachy?
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No.75155
>>63001
This has always been my opinion as well. As far as the "Miyazaki is a communist" thing goes, he appears to have grown out of communism like so many others. His hypocrisy is typical boomer shit, but he does have some valid points.
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No.75161
>>75155
>Miyazaki is a communist" thing goes, he appears to have grown out of communism like so many others
I think as soon as he started to getting into higher roles and running his company he realised that being a commie is fucking retarded.
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No.75178
>>75161
The hippies of the 60s became the yuppies of the 80s.
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No.75191
>>47858
He is a bitter old man suffering a severe case of sour grapes. It also doesn't help that his communistic bias shows in every aspect of his work and public life.
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No.75238
>>75191
He's largely right about the problems of modern anime.
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No.75244
>>75178
Pretty much.
>>75191
Miyazaki is an asshole but he isn't really wrong about his criticism of modern anime.
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No.75246
>>75191
Miyazaki's probably closer to eco-fascism than communism.
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No.75276
>>75246
Honestly I'm not sure what to point him as exactly, since there are times he comes across as a radical traditionalist and even his feminism is less women need equal rights as it is women need to pull their fucking weight equally.
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No.75952
I recommend checking out Nausicaa's audio commentary with Hideaki Anno and assistant director Kazuyoshi Katayama (who later went on to direct Gainax's Appleseed OVA and The Big O) if you ever stumble across it. It starts off a bit underwhelming, but as the film goes along the conversation gets better and starts getting derailed into weird stories about Miyazaki. For example:
Miyazaki's music listening habits, which Hideaki Anno discovered after lending him a cassette. Apparently the autist loves to loop the same song for hours loudly without headphones and laughs his ass off at the exact same part every single time. He does this until he suddenly grows tired of the song and loses his shit if he ever hears it again.
He somehow wore out the tape within a single day. Hideaki Anno never lent him a cassette again.
>>63001
>>75155
Not coincidentally, Takahata was also the music director for Miyazaki's best film, Kiki's Delivery Service. If you rewatch it you'll notice it's much sparser musically than Miyazaki's usual stuff.
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No.75955
>>75952
>spoiler
Wot, that's hilarious. Impressive how some autists manage to became famous rather than infamous for their weirdness
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No.76013
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No.76030
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No.76033
>The Unknown Youngest Brother of the Giants (知られざる巨人の末弟 Shirarezaru Kyojin no Mattei) : A king of a Vulcan country orders the construction of a huge airplane.
>The Pride of Steel (甲鉄の意気地 Koutetsu no Ikuji) : A story about the Monitor and the Merrimack, two ironclad ships of the American Civil War.
>Enter the Multigun Tower (多砲塔の出番 Tahoutou no Deban) : A pig creates a huge tank and kidnaps a girl. Her boyfriend comes after them, and he and the girl finally destroy the tank. Miyazaki wanted to make an anime out of this. He even said, "I want to make the tank go at full speed with Country Road as BGM." (!) There was a plan to make it into an OAV, but the project never materialized.
>The Eyes of a Farmer (農夫の眼 Noufu no Me) : Based on Andre Malreaux's semi-autobiographical novel L'Espoir, this is a story about a farmer who finds an enemy base during the Spanish Civil War. It features a Potez 540 bomber.
>Steel of the Dragon (竜の甲鉄 Ryuu no Koutetsu) : A story about the Teien and the Chinen, Chinese battleships in the China-Japan War of 1905.
>Heavy Bomber over Kyuushu (九州上空の重轟炸機 Kyuushuu Joukuu no Juugousakuki) : A story about a Chinese heavy bomber (Martin 139W) which flew to Kyuushuu in Japan to conduct a night "air raid". But instead of bombs, it dropped fliers calling for peace.
>The Antiaircraft Guntower (高射砲塔 Koushahoutou) : A story about a huge antiaircraft guntower in Germany and the many Allied air force attempts to remove it.
>Q Ship (Ｑ・ｓｈｉｐ) : A story about a "Q Ship" during World War I. A "Q Ship" was an English battleship which disguised itself as a civilian ship by putting sails on its radio mast to fight against German U-boats, who were fooled into taking it as their easy target.
>The story of Anshoumaru (安松丸物語 Anshoumaru Monogatari) : A story about the Anshoumaru, a Japanese make-shift aircraft carrier.
>Over London, 1918 (ロンドン上空１９１８年 Rondon Joukuu 1918 Nen) : A story about the German air raids of London.
>The Poorest Front (最貧前線 Saihin Zensen) : A story about the Japanese fishing boat Kisshoumaru and her crew, who were commandeered by the Japanese Navy.
>The Age of the Flying Boat (飛行艇時代 Hikoutei Jidai) : The manga that Porco Rosso is based on.
>The Pig's Tiger (豚の虎 Buta no Tora) : A story about Hans, a German mechanic and a Tiger tank.
Man, we're missing out on a shitton of untranslated /k/ manga. Ghiblifags truly are useless.
>>76013
As the commentary ends they describe him as a fairly average middle-aged man once you work with him. If this is accurate and their other stories about him are true, working with boomers must be awful.
They also insist Miyazaki is a breast man.
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No.76034
>>76033
A man of culture then
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No.76036
>>76033
>They also insist Miyazaki is a breast man.
Faggot it's all about the ass meat.
>working with boomers must be awful.
If that one cap >>47881 is true then wew.
>Man, we're missing out on a shitton of untranslated /k/ manga. Ghiblifags truly are useless.
Might be a Que for this board to work together and translate/find these.
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No.76038
>>76036
They're all up on exhentai at https://exhentai.org/g/111408/3eb854c6b2/ . Supposedly there's translations for a couple floating around, but they aren't typeset or anything.
Of course asses are superior.
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No.76040
>>76038
This would take work but I think it could be typesetted. if only I didn't work so much
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No.76377
>>75155
>As far as the "Miyazaki is a communist" thing goes, he appears to have grown out of communism
<still bitches about muh unit 731 and how Japan should stay de-militarized
Nope, he's still a faggot.
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No.76829
>>76036
>>76038
Only niggers take asses over tits.
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No.76839
>>76829
Are Iceland niggers?
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No.76847
>>76829
Fuck you ass is great.
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No.76866
>>76377
Just to play devil's advocate, Unit 731 was extremely fucked and Miyazaki's gen were kids while bombs that turned people to ash in front of them dropped in mass. So while I agree with you, Miyazaki while an asshole is saying army bad due to having to dodge bomb shrapnel daily as a kid.
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No.76873
>>76866
>dropped in mass
A paper lantern getting knocked over in Tokyo is what Miyazaki lived through. It's not like he's Barefoot Gen.
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No.76876
>>76873
He did live through the Tokyo fire bombings.
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No.76890
>>76876
Read my post again and see how what I said was nowhere inaccurate.
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No.76896
>>76890
Sorry I'm half dead.
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No.76967
>>76839
They will be soon.
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No.76975
>>76967
Europe's fate makes me sad.
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No.87150
I've grown to respect Miyazaki more over the months since I've read his Otto Carius manga. He's less the libshit Ghiblifags and most anons paint him as and more of a very blackpilled traditionalist who just wants to make children's stories.
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No.87163
>>47858
Nausicaa is still the greatest mango I've ever read, the art alone eats Berserk for breakfast and it's been plagiarized forever.
I adore most of his classic animated stuff like Totoro, Laputa and Conan - but everything from Mononoke onwards feels too cold and calculated. Except for Ponyo: there's personal sentiment there. Also featuring the elusive nimble ara.
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No.87169
>>87163
Shame Ponyo gets overlooked these days. I honestly think it's one of his best movies even if I ignore the nimble ara.
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No.87183
>>87163
Nausicaa is great even just for the dieselpunk giant airplanes. Miyazaki has actual talent for drawing /k/ type stuff and its wasted on being an auteur
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No.87198
>>87150
> more of a very blackpilled traditionalist who just wants to make children's stories.
This is pretty much him in a nutshell and honestly the best way to describe him
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No.87201
>>87169
Ponyo was pretty cute. The water dad with his backpack was cool.
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No.87207
>>87201
I should stream ponyo sometime.
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No.87246
>>87201
Miyazaki loves the early 20th century, the Belle Epoque destroyed by kikes. They had their planes, they had their comics. Now, no one realizes in the American fandom, but that weird design of his old hags (Ponyo's sea mother, Spirited Away's witch) is specifically inspired to one ancient author.
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No.93309
>Hayao Miyazaki Seems To Hate Lord of the Rings, Indiana Jones And Hollywood Movies
https://archive.is/0fS3l
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No.102478
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>"huge fans" try adapting Nausicaa into a short film
>garish colors everywhere
>trailer text hints they'll drop what little subtlety the movie had
>director poses for the camera with his manga and talks about how he wants the props to make it into the Ghibli museum
Fucking hueniggers. Why can't they just let the movie and manga stand on their own without desecrating them?
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No.102633
>>102478
Because the movie sucks compared to the manga. It makes no sense and adapts none of the nuance or depth of the story and characters. Nausicaa is crying out for a 2-cour adaptation by studio Bones.
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No.102637
>>102478
>garish colors
>brown on brown with a few pieces of bright plant life
Evaluate yourself.
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No.103250
>>102637
It isn't just the plants, the entire trailer is way too saturated. It's like looking at one of those awful Disney VHS covers.
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No.103252
>>102633
>bones
Why, does the ending suck?
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No.103257
>>103252
It is very different from the film, but I haven't finished the manga yet so I don't know what happens.
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No.103258
>>102478
>movie starts in a desert
>Soon switches to an alien fauna environment
>just like the original, but for real
I'd like to introduce you to the difference between paintings and real life.
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No.103364
>>102478
>Fucking hueniggers. Why can't they just let the movie and manga stand on their own without desecrating them?
Because nothing of value has ever been produced in Brazil except cash crops, so they have to steal from other cultures.
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No.103374
>>103364
Still better than a possible burger Nausicaa. The 'native versus empire' plot fits very well in the anticolonialist trope, so they would definitely made her a brown feminist.
Don't piss your panties over anything that doesn't follow the Hollywood homogenized style. You've learned to digest the most abhorrent, stupidest shit in animu format. Might as well learn the hue style.
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No.103499
>>103374
>The 'native versus empire' plot
It only looks that way in the movie.
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No.103528
>>103499
IIRC, isn't the finale of the manga pretty much the final Resident Evil film and Beneath the Planet of the Apes?
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No.103619
>>103528
I haven't seen either so I can't say.
Most people don't get just how different the Nausicaa manga is from the movie. I certainly didn't expect it. The plot takes a hard fork early on, with the manga aiming for something much grander and more nuanced than the movie. There's a shitton of factions, worldbuilding, and character development that never show up in the movie and it only continues to grow better and more blackpilled as it goes along.
To give you an example of just how fucking different they are, the Torumekian empire aren't the Valley of the Wind's enemies in the manga, but their very uneasy allies.
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