No.87205[Last 50 Posts]
What are the chances of ABDL becoming a semi-normalized fetish in terms of the public similar to furries
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No.87208
>furry
>normal to public
Good joke op
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No.87209
>>87205
If this abdl fetish becomes normalized in the public. I will purge myself of my abdl fetish. I'll still have a little mindset but I don't want this shit to be normalized. It's called a fetish for a reason. I don't want this attention.
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No.87211
>>87205
Zero.
The stigma of diapers being associated with babies, sick people and the elderly will always be there.
Adults behaving like children will be associated with pædo even if it makes no sense, since a pædo wants to abuse the child, not to BE the child.
Just enjoy this magnificent fetish, don't seek approval from others, but don't rub it in the face of everybody else. If you want an example of how bad this can get, simply look at the furfags.
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No.87212
>>87205
Furries aren't really "semi-normalized". They're seen as freaks even among a lot of fringe fetish communities.
As for ABDLs, it depends on the time scale.
10 years? No chance.
100 years? Maybe.
1000 years? There will be much, much weirder things than fetishes for people to get outraged about.
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No.87213
>>87211
A lot of the stigma surrounding pedophilia (as in the attraction, not child abuse) will fade away once technology makes it possible to place an adult/AI mind in a sufficiently realistic child-like body. That might take a few hundred years, but I absolutely guarantee it will happen eventually.
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No.87219
Why do people need it to be normalized? Just keep your sexual fetishes to yourself! Nobody needs to know besides yourself and a significant other. Piss and shit yourself all you want there are no repercussions to it. If it's your 'lifestyle" you are mentally ill. There's a small amount of people but this ABDL "acceptance movement" is very weird.
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No.87220
>>87219
I'm not saying that it should be accepted, i'm just asking what are the chances
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No.87221
>>87220
My bad that's fair but still there are those people and I find it so odd. I'd say the chances are nonexistent. BDSM is the only fetish I think that has been kinda normalized. ABDL will sadly always be associated with pedophilia no matter how obvious it's so far away from that.
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No.87226
>>87213
In a few hundred years we'll probably have something more advanced than diapers
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No.87231
>>87226
Unless you can be born potty trained.
The only improvement is probably more absorvent materials
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No.87232
>>87205
>furries
>normal
My sides. That said, before we can talk about ABDL acceptance, acceptance of incontinence at any age needs to become the norm. When the average person understands that it's not okay to be cruel to others for needing diapers, they'll also be less inclined to be cruel to others for liking diapers.
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No.87233
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No.87292
>>87219
There are a lot of people for whom this is just a minor add-on to their sexuality. The priority is sex, and if their partner happens to be into diapers then that's a nice bonus. They can go on normal dates, do normal sexual things, and then maybe bring up diapers once mutual trust and intimacy have been established.
For some people though, ABDL is more an essential core component of their sexuality. For example, I personally have no interest in vanilla sex so ageplay/diaper-related activities are the main event, so to speak. It isn't really feasible to start with a normal sexual relationship, then bring up kinky stuff later. From my point of view there would be significant advantages to greater public awareness and tolerance of this fetish. I'm not saying people should be walking down the street in nothing but a messy diaper, but it would be nice if there was less need to protect my identity when advertising myself on dating sites.
Also >>87232 makes a good point. More compassionate treatment of incontinent people can only be a good thing for everyone.
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No.87294
Even besides the whole pedophile thing (which only really is associated with the Adult Baby side of it since Diaper Lovers tend to focus primarily on the diapers not any "baby" aspects)
In the end, diapers are USED and this is why they'll NEVER be accepted. It involves defecation. People shitting themselves when they are perfectly capable of using a toilet will always be viewed as a disorder.
It's unclean, pure and simple.
It's super hot to us, but to all them normies, we're just filthy mofos.
Keep it in your bedroom.
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No.87298
>talking to relatives
>pretty ' ' 'woke' ' '
>supportive of gay rights, trans rights, etc.
>mfw they make an off handed remark about weirdos with freaky fetishes
noface.gif
Its even worse when they explicitly mention ABDL related stuff. 'OMG I saw this video once where this man was wearing a DIAPER. Can you IMAGINE?!?'
So to answer your question, I think it'll become tolerated by normies probably when society accepts the fact that fetishes, much like sexual orientation, aren't really a choice. That's gonna take a long time though because under that logic that means we'll also have to have a talk as a society about illegal fetishes. I think the day will come but with our current trajectory it might not be in our lifetimes. RIP.
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No.87300
>>87213
The normies are too idiotic to understand why pedophilia is an automatic ban. I doubt AIs would solve their lack of reasoning.
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No.87301
>>87294
>NEVER
It's a bit of a trite saying, but never is an extremely long time.
Imagine how poorly an early stone age human could predict modern society, then multiply that error by a few thousand or a few billion, depending on how long you think humans will be around for.
>>87300
We're already seeing the first signs of it being discussed in a more civilized and rational way by academic psychologists. These things just move very slowly compared to normal human timescales.
I'm curious what that wordfilter was though. It doesn't appear on the board settings (https://8ch.net/settings.php?board=abdl), so is it a global wordfilter?
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No.87302
Everyone hates furries because they are juvenile.
Men are suppoed to build a career and have responsibilities. Not dress up as childrens cartoons and act like kids in a retard home.
THe mainstream will always hate ABDL for the same reason.
But at least we all know deep down that ABDLs are nowhere near as creepy as furries
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No.87303
>>87219
>Why do people need it to be normalized? Just keep your sexual fetishes to yourself!
No I want ABDL quotas in top companies like they have with trannies.
Every board room needs at least 20% diaper representation. Or else they are bigots.
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No.87307
>>87209
>If this abdl fetish becomes normalized in the public. I will purge myself of my abdl fetish.
Idiot.
>>87219
>Why do people need it to be normalized?
Idk about other people, but I want to be able to find a diaper wearing girlfriend. Normalizing this fetish could make it possible
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No.87310
>>87303
>normalizing this kind of autist
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No.87311
>>87307
fetishes are called fetishes for a fucking reason. no one would do it if they don't have diaper fetish
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No.87326
Literally never, but normalized in the fetish community, maybe sooner than we think. I never imagined 10 years ago that my fetish would ever be anything more than me fapping to obscure diaper fiction alone.
To think that an entire industry would spring up selling adult diapers and ABDL accessories is wild to me.
I think the last 3 years have been great for the daddy kink. I'd say it's almost as mainstream and widespread as vanilla BDSM at this point. Every snapchat thot wants a buttplug up her ass, a chocker round her neck, and boyfriend to call "daddy". I think if the more ageplay aspects of that become more common, then diapers could also become more common, the overlap is immense.
But like all fetishes, it will depend on the number of women openly engaging in it.
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No.87494
>>87310
They say autistics don't have the ability to detect subtle things like sarcasm. Interesting, right?
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No.87599
Never I hope. I just wanna be left the fuck alone. It's not normal and I'm fine with that.
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No.87611
>>87494
the sarcasm was obvious, it's the insinuation that's retarded
they say idiots can't comprehend the idea of multiple layers of meaning, isn't that fascinating
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No.87885
>>87599
I'd like it to get a little normalized so that most people reaction to the fetish isn't an association with pedophilia, but it should never be something that is considered "normal" imo.
We'll always be a fringe fetish, I'd just like to be seen as a kink fiend instead of a god damn pedo.
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No.87888
I don't think it's possible at all. It's associated with the worst fetishes including but not limited to watersports, scat and pedophilia. None of which are remotely accepted by society. We would have to kill the stigma surrounding scat and watersports and somehow get past the PR nightmare that is 'being the kid' vs 'fucking the kid'
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No.87900
>>87888
As already said in this thread, DD/lg is a pretty normie fetish at this point. And even before that schoolgirl outfits have been a staple of fetish stuff like the last half a century. I really don't think this is as big of a a hurdle as you think
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No.87902
>>87885
Same here, I have not heard anyone irl associate it with pedo's but everytime I have heard someone bring it up in a group its with disgust.
It would be alright if people just thought it was a little weird, doesn't need to be normal.
I feel bad everytime they mention it as something really disgusting.
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No.87906
>>87885
Are diaper wearing women associated with pedos? Or is it just us males?
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No.87907
>>87888
I would like to point out that homosexuality was also once associated by the public as pedophilia. And for that matter, they were often associated with scat as well because of the practice of sodomy.
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No.87923
>>87292
You've gotta admit that would be pretty hot though
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No.87931
>>87907
>homosexuality was also once associated by the public as pedophilia
>was also once
>was
sure
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No.87951
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No.87953
>>87923
Not unless I was a lot younger.
It's embarrassing for a 6 year old to be seen in diapers. An adult wearing them openly in public is just weird and disturbing. At best people would react with a kind of uncomfortable pity because they assume you're disabled/retarded. Both situations could be described as humiliating, but they're different kinds of humiliation.
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No.87967
>>87951
>He thinks this is bait
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No.87974
>>87967
So you seriously believe that “the public” aka society at large aka the average person associates gay with pedophilia? What bubble do you live in?
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No.87995
Because furry isnt a fetish. Furry is just zoomorphic humans or anthropomorphic animal fandom. It doesnt have to be sexualized to be furry.
Diapers are a fetish because when you a grown ass man you get hard in your huggies. The adult male body is way more sexualized than an infant.
Wearing diapers in public would be as acceptable as wearing undies in public.
It just doesnt work. Unless you severely mentally disabled.
Unless it's a weird place like Japan or a cuck place like Sweden.
So seeing a Chuck e Cheese mascot would be a lot less normal than diaperman.
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No.87996
>>87995 fuck I meant more normal.
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No.87997
>>87995
>Because furry isnt a fetish. Furry is just zoomorphic humans or anthropomorphic animal fandom. It doesnt have to be sexualized to be furry.
You're lying to yourself and you know it.
Every furry convention is just an excuse for casual sex. I'd be willing to put money on there being more anthro porn than non-pornographic anthro art. Furfags want to fuck animals or be fucked by them.
You guys who pretend it's not sexual are fighting a losing battle. At least in the ABDL community the ones claiming its non-sexual tend to be girls with mental health problems and there's some grounds for believing acting like a baby helps them cope or some shit.
There is literally NO excuse for being into anthro shit unless you're jerking to it.
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No.87998
>>87997
Heres some shoes you can wear before stepping outside the house in diaper and shirt
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No.88001
>>87998
I think they'd match your neon green cartoon wolf costume better
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No.88008
>>87998
yiff in hell you degenerate furfag.
RainFurrest proved that your kind are absolute pieces of shit
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No.88011
>>87974
It is very well known that gays disproportionately molest/rape young children.
A few studies even founded this back when you could do studies pointing out how disgusting fags are.
You know, before faggot defenders like yourself showed up with their dick up your ass.
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No.88018
>>88008
Think they're just as bad if not worse now. Saw screencaps about MidWest FurFest and apparently they hid 30 diapers around the Hilton, 5 with "prizes" in them and 25 with shit in them
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No.88020
>>88011
>It is very well known that gays disproportionately molest/rape young children.
No it isn't, as evidenced by the fact you're having to cite mention discredited studies from 70 years ago.
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No.88025
>>87205
On a serious note.
I think the only way to normalize diapers in public is to make animated cartoons aimed at children where the main hero is diaper clad but an adult or teen of some sort. One with a silly art style.
If such media keeps popping up with such crass absurdist humor then it should be ok.
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No.88028
>>87906
What do you think?
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No.88033
>>87906
Aberrant behavior is only bad when men do it.
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No.88038
>>88020
Well you obviously know the study without me needing to post it which is already a good sign it is well known.
Can you post a study that discredited those figures that are so apparently well known you knew them off the top of your head?
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No.88070
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No.88080
>>87300
This. People don't reason themselves into 95+% of their beliefs*, they hear them somewhere when they are younger, process them emotionally, and if it doesn't conflict with another more important belief or value they already have, they internalize it. Most grown adults who would generally be considered extremely tolerant and kind people will instantly and easily fly into a borderline psychotic rage and confirm without a thought that a pedophile, for instance, should be tortured and righteously murdered at first contact, and that you'd be a bad person for thinking otherwise. Do you really think any of those people have thought of the ramifications of that? Do you think that is rational?
It's just something people get (rightfully and reasonably) uncomfortable even thinking about, so they do anything they can to not think about it, and when they see someone perform the "correct" or even just "acceptable" opinion, they empathetically copy that feeling and that behavior and then go back to not thinking about it so they don't have to feel bad.
Those are the two cruxes of it: Most people are utterly unwilling to even allow a thought that makes them uncomfortable or confused or disgusted into their head in the first place, and are resisting thinking about that stuff at all times on a lower level, and they'll never allow anything to break through that unless it imminently, seriously affects them; Related to that, people are intensely uncomfortable to actually question or actively oppose whatever their social groupthink is, and they'll never allow themselves to even try, unless it is about something that imminently, seriously affects them.
tl;dr Pedo is an automatic ban because just about everybody says pedos should burn alive in fire, and it's much easier to learn the belief that everyone believes if it's never going to affect you, even if that belief literally is "certain people should be proactively murdered, because we suspect that a small percentage of them are capable of committing crimes." Even if said person would never accept that belief in any other context, the vast group consensus about pedophiles makes even questioning the groupthink a personal existential threat, because nobody wants to be seen as defending the indefensible.
*ass-pull number, but do you honestly disagree?
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No.88081
>>88008
something something rainfurrest was an inside job
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No.88082
>>87953
TBH though that's the thing that actually made me okay with occasionally wearing in public. Most people aren't perverted enough, or experienced with the fetish scene enough, to even see the faith glimpses that an adult might be diapered and IMMEDIATELY make the leap to "dangerous sex pervert." Even if they are aware of it conceptually, someone actually needing diapers is just statistically much more likely than "this person has one of the rarest, weirdest, most contemptible fetishes and is engaging in it in public." And even if they actually think the latter, they still aren't gonna fucking say anything, because if they guess wrong, they're publicly abusing a fucking disabled person, and that's real fucking easy to get turned around on them. Even if they're correct, you bet your ass it'll be really easy to make that shit more humiliating for them than it is for me.
I guess this doesn't work if you're wearing, like, your fuckin' pink princess baby diapers under your jeans as a grown-ass man, but most diapers you are 99% gonna go under the radar, and in the 1% situation you actually have a lot of power to turn that shit around.
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No.88084
This whole thread proves that most people are not content with what they have. MOST ABDL's WILL WANT TO TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL BECAUSE ITS NOT ENOUGH FOR THEM, THEY WANT MORE! This is a BAD thing.
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No.88086
>>88084
Does it? I mean there's a lot of posts saying they don't think it will be normal and they're either okay with it or don't want it to be normal.
There's a few saying it'll always be fringe but not as fringe as it was 10 years ago- with no comment on that being good or bad
I don't know why you're so upset
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No.88087
>>88081
Imagine thinking shiddy pee pee poo poo diaper porn of DD sized autism women is more socially acceptable than epic drawings of mutant animals.
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No.88088
>>88082
This is if they even see it. People bring up in the 24/7 thread that most people don't even pay attention to others and it's true. Since it's our-self we assume people see the same things we might, or are looking for it. Most people don't care what strangers look like or are doing. when I worked retail and I would people watch I'd forget about pretty much everything I saw that I found even slightly interesting at the time about them.
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No.88102
>>88086
I don't have to explain myself to you or anyone.
You don't know? That's not my problem.
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No.88103
>>88087
>epic drawings of mutant animals
I'm impressed. This is the same level of self-delusion as that anon who keeps claiming that ABDL is just an underwear fetish.
I've seen the crotchless fursuits.
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No.88123
>>88088
Exactly my point. So the probability that there'll ever be any issue is contingent on so many individual low-probability outcomes in uninterrupted sequence. A person has to actually notice at all; then, they have to be a person who is at all aware of the fetish; then, they have to be the kind of nutter who thinks it's more likely that they found a rare breed of degenerate in the wild then a person who actually needs a completely functional protective garment; then, they have to be the kind of person so obsessed with putting down and humiliating others that they will assume great social risk to themselves to try to out you for something you have complete plausible deniability for. A person that fucking insane is a unicorn already, and they have to also be the precise person who catches you out when they probably aren't paying any attention to you in the first place? It's not that it 100% won't happen, it's that if you take the action at expected value, you'll probably live your whole life and never have an issue.
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No.88343
>>88028
The reason why I asked this question here is that I did not know what to think. I saw nobody asking this question on websites like daily diapers, adisc.. omorashi..
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No.88361
I think there needs to be a distinction between a fetish becoming normalized WITH the public and a fetish becoming normalized IN public i.e. outside in public spaces. As far as people accepting ABDL and not instantly recoiling or thinking "PEDO", we're already there. Look at all the DDLG stuff, it's almost mainstream now.
In our current LGBTQIABRRAP+ atmosphere there's this line of thinking that your fetish isn't truly accepted unless you can parade it around in public wherever you go and inflict it upon innocent bystanders. This is warped, if you have an exhibitionism fetish then be honest with yourself and don't project it on others. Although I'm sure a lot of it is also just people wanting to imitate or latch onto the very visible success of gay pride parades without understanding why.
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No.88386
>>88343
It's the double standard
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No.88387
>>88070
"..what are you doing to your life, man?
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No.88409
never unless shaney the god himself attempt another diaper revolution
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No.88446
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No.89548
All people could be wearing diapers, and it could be considered as normal, if just one generation gave up on potty training. Why not?
Let's look at this from this point of view: If someone blows their nose on tissue, even while being around others, it's not considered as bad thing. At least where I live. While farting obviously is.
Farting and pooping into diaper while being around others could also be accepted same way as blowing nose into tissue is. If diaper technology got better containing all smells, Then why not? What do you know? Maybe in 1000 years, people will just , ban the toilets, because diapers will be more comfortable, efficient, and convinient way to anwer nature call.
Look on that from this point of view.
Do you think grey aliens use toilets? Or do they have some super absorbent material wrapped around their bodies which absorbs their urine and feces? Which can easily be cleaned? Really. If some civilization is really advanced, why should they waste time sitting on toilet? They could just use their super absorbent diapers. And easily recycle them. Why not?
Kids obviously do not want to sit on toilet, it's the parents who want their child to be potty trained. Like my cousin. He refused to shit in toilet, he prefered to do it in diaper because it was more comfortable. Image I told him that there are actually adults, who also prefer to shit in diaper instead of toilet. xD . He would instantly become diaper lover I think. It would be point of no return.
One point of view would be that the parents brainwash their child into thinking that toilet is better, when really, it's not. So, it you ever have kids, let them decide if they want to use toilet or not.
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No.89549
>>89548
Reading too much into that Harry Potter lore. The wizards just shit their pants and use magic to remove it you know?
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No.89584
>>89548
> Farting and pooping into diaper while being around others could also be accepted same way as blowing nose into tissue is. If diaper technology got better containing all smells, Then why not? What do you know? Maybe in 1000 years, people will just , ban the toilets, because diapers will be more comfortable, efficient, and convinient way to anwer nature call.
lol
random guess, but most people wouldn't like to shit themselves in public
and then wallow in their disgusting waste for a long period of time
i feel like this is the kind of thing that needn't be said, except on this board obviously
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No.89590
>>89548
>Do you think grey aliens use toilets? Or do they have some super absorbent material wrapped around their bodies which absorbs their urine and feces? Which can easily be cleaned? Really. If some civilization is really advanced, why should they waste time sitting on toilet? They could just use their super absorbent diapers. And easily recycle them. Why not?
I doubt this would be the optimal solution. It's much more likely they'd just reconfigure their whole biology so they could power themselves using microscopic fusion reactors or something. They might even discard their biological bodies entirely and use artificial ones which are capable of surviving in more hostile environments.
Until that happens, toilets are still vastly more efficient than diapers.
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No.89591
>>88025
Captain Underpants comes to mind…
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No.89592
>>88080
You might enjoy reading Exo-psychology by Leary
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No.89649
>>89591
Super Diaper Baby?
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No.89655
>>87205
None. Nobody likes furries precisely because they're out with their degeneracy. We should keep our shit hidden like they should keep theirs hidden. It's cringe as fuck.
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