/abdl/ - Adult Baby - Diaper Lover★

I love how you incels think that it's because of your physical appearance that you can't get laid and not your cringe worthy attitudes.

delete this nephew

>>72926 (OP)

I would give some advice but I doubt it would be worth much, you seem convinced

I'm somewhere between an incel and a mgtow in that the idea of a gf sounds nice but also a lot of hassle and its probably not worth it. i've always heard what makes an incel is that they try and fail, i haven't even bothered to try

>>72927

Why can't it be both?

>>72938

I guess I'm similar.

Sex doesn't appeal to me, so in that sense I'm "voluntarily celibate".

I plan to pursue some kind of relationship at some point, but a combination of circumstances and laziness have made me keep putting it off for the future. I've actually turned girls down because I figured it was extremely unlikely they'd be into any of the same stuff I am.

Then again, those circumstances definitely make it somewhat involuntary. If the world was a bit different, I'd probably already be in a long term relationship.

>>72927

Strawmen like that are rarely entirely true. Incels are simply unfortunate. Your attempt to place the blame on them is just as misguided as their attempts to place the blame on women. Free will doesn't exist, so trying to assign blame is a fools errand.

>>72953

>Incels are simply unfortunate.

Well, most importantly, they're pieces of shit, but I suppose "that's beside the point" or "irrelevant" or something. God forbid someone says "SJW" in this thread, I'll have to get my bingo card.

>>72971

Here let me give you some free spaces

>SJW

>It’s not my fault that girls like assholes instead of good guys like me

>I’ve never actually been with a girl but trust me they’d never go for diapers anyway I know

>>72954

As to interests from women? Most vanilla girls won't be put off by a man that doesn't hound them for sex constantly, and gratefully spoons them after a not-messy orgasm - that they didn't have to do much. They get with the program when they get the benefits.

This is rarely true. Some women like lots of sex. Most women want to see their man as uber-manly. I'm lucky I'm so manly in ever other respect that, even with this fetish, I'm still well above average.

Good luck finding a girl if you're not tall, built, rugged, or skillful -and- you have this fetish. There's some girls that like effeminate men, but they're a clear minority.

>>72953

>Free will doesn't exist

We're not talking about sexual orientation or even gender identity, here. Being an incel is basically having such a shitty attitude towards life that not only repulses everyone from considering the incel for a serious relationship, but also leads the incel to behave as if it was everybody else's fault but their's, usually coupled with the idea that they deserve an 8, 9 or 10 that would magically love their sorry ass.

If most incels could and would settle for the 4s, or 3s, or 2s they deserve, they wouldn't be incels anymore, but they believe so hard that they're somehow superior and deserve an attractive significant other that will make them look good, that they'll ignore everyone who would actually make them happy if they'd only lower their standards a little and pursue everyone that aren't interested in doing so, and who will inevitably reinforce the vicious cycle of rejection, leading them to delve even further and deeper into this toxic mentality.

Let's face it, if you're ugly (or even normal, but not overly attractive), poor (or even middle class, but not rich enough for a trophy wife) and also are unwilling to settle for someone that is actually in your league, chances are you'll end up "incel", but why would you blame anyone else for it but yourself?!

Then again, I guess incels could blame Western society and the way movies, TV shows, magazines, etc… leads us all to believe in fairy tales, where everyone finds love and lives happily ever after, but that would also be blaming others for their own shortcomings.

If an "incel" gets really desperate for a woman, they can simply travel the world. Different countries have different values and women over the world are different and seek different things from a man. If all else fails, just travel to any shithole country and "buy" yourself a wife. There's plenty of places where women are so poor they'll settle for anyone with enough money to travel to their country to begin with.

…but that would require the incel lowering his standards to a level appropriate to his station in life, which is the root of the problem to begin with. That, and their shitty attitude.

I wish I could find my post from before on assigning mommy's and daddy's to incels. I think it got axed last time the site was down for multiple days.

Yeah i'm involuntarily celibate now. People who hate incels just proves us right. It's always really funny when a beta will jump on the bandwagon, as if it will help them out socially.

I had one serious gf ten years ago and I did not divulge my fetish. Really glad I didn't too, it would've been over right then and there. Should I somehow ascend once again, I will definitely not tell them. I will have to consider myself lucky if I ever receive female attention again in my life. Telling them about my creepy fetish would be too much.

Also just look at the girls is this fetish and tell me that women don't have life on easy mode.

>>72982

>sexual orientation and gender identity

>not a choice

It's their choice to miserable as much as it is an incels.

>>72982

>settle for the 4s, or 3s, or 2s they deserve

Option 1: Spend hefty amounts of money and time trying to have casual, fruitless sex with women who have serious mental problems and God only knows what diseases

Option 2: Become saddled with a fat, seriously bad-tempered woman who's probably overloaded with feminism, will likely never bear your children, will constantly leech off you for material goodies, and will divorce rape you at the first opportunity

Option 3: Jerk off

Very few men are truly "involuntarily celibate", they just aren't willing to put forth effort for effectively no reward

>>73022

You basically just proved this entire thread was answered as soon as that other guy said incels were incels thanks to their cringeworthy attitudes more than anything else

Imagine being this pathetic though, it's sad to think you'll die convinced other people aren't worth YOUR efforts, when in fact other people are blessed not to have any interaction with you at all

>>72982

As I said, you have much more in common with your straw-incels than you'd like to admit. You're both looking at a problem and, rather than working to find a solution, you simply dismiss it by saying "all <x> are bad people". It's unhelpful and doesn't make you look good.

>>72982

>If most incels could and would settle for the 4s, or 3s, or 2s they deserve, they wouldn't be incels anymore

Also, just imagine if an incel said this about unattractive women. I'm sure you'd be the first to start accusing them of having a "shitty attitude" and being "entitled".

I so enjoy listening incels whine about not getting laid, then blaming it on physical appearance, and doing nothing to improve their personality or status.

You think Harvey Weinstein got pussy with his looks?

Also. Nothing is more comical than "I can't find a girl… that is not fay and ugly". Stop trying to find a +7/10 if you aren't even near that league.

But whatever the fucking case is, you will never fucking find a woman to fuck you, if you got a selfish toxic personality and you pretend that you are a victim.

>>73074

>You think Harvey Weinstein got pussy with his looks?

He offered them lucrative movie deals in exchange for sex. I dont think incels on here are top hollywood exexutives.

>Also. Nothing is more comical than "I can't find a girl… that is not fay and ugly". Stop trying to find a +7/10 if you aren't even near that league.

I dont even mind butt fucking ugly. But so many girls are fat nowadays. Fatties are easy to talk to and be friends with but dont do anything for me in a romantic way.

>>72978

>Good luck finding a girl if you're not tall, built, rugged, or skillful -and- you have this fetish. There's some girls that like effeminate men, but they're a clear minority.

Everyone has a type, like how some guys like big butts and others like big breasts. I'm 5'8, scrawny (150lbs) and am I DL. Granted I have a very good career and do lots around the house. My wife and I have been together for 7 years now, and yes she is smaller than I am.

I might have ended up an incel due to my experience with women in high school (always the good guy friend, never the boyfriend). Tried seeing a few girls but either they would be crazy as fuck or shy and not really talk (hard to get to know someone when they don't talk). Eventually I said fuck it, I will just live my life how I want, work to personal guys (getting a house was my goal at the time). Once I gave up trying to get a woman, I met my wife at a small party of mutual friends. Later found out she was in the same rut and gave up dating too.

Anyone can find a partner, but it starts with yourself. Women HATE insecure, self-loathing, and whining men. Once you become confident and happy with who you are, good things usually happen.

>>73100

I'm pretty sure you can do the "money for sex" thing even without being a Hollywood executive.

I'm pretty much in same situation as >>73107 once I stopped caring and trying so hard, good things started happening.

>>72982

Incels claim they are so ugly that no one will date them. Many might be exaggerating because they have social issues, but surely some actually are severely deformed and overlooked by those 3s and 4s you claim secretly desire them.

Also, incels get a bad wrap because they are men. No one would ever tell a sad female that she ‘wasn’t entitled to love’. That would be so fucking cruel. But because its men you’ve been trained not to give a shit about their suffering and instead of listening you create strawmen versions of them with problems you can fix

>>73157

thats an interesting side reality you live in

I think you should stop identifying as an "incel". I hate to use the term "toxic" but it really is a toxic mindset to hold. I'm a virgin in my early twenties but I don't let it become part of my identity

the very reasoning behind this thread marks you as a real piece of shit any woman would run from. Nothing to do with looks. I know plenty of ugly and fat dudes who have loving relationships, how? by not being shallow entitled pieces of shit. And no these girls arent models. But thats the issue isnt it. You want a girl who can do better than you and will.

Why can't incels see this

This whole thread is just bitter, angry people talking past each other.

The two "sides" would both be happier if the other crawled into a hole and quietly died, so why does anyone expect their concerns to be listened to?

Incels: nobody gives a fuck.

Anti-incels: nobody gives a fuck.

The sooner you come to understand this fact, the sooner you can all stop bumping this thread.

Its all bullshit. Looks are important but not everything. Its also stupid to deny women are just as vain as men. They are, sorry to burst everyones bubble.

Girlfriends just happen. Extra showers and better clothes won’t get you a girlfriend. Doing the dishes and cleaning up your apartment won’t get you a girlfriend. Its chemistry, plain and simple, and chemistry is complicated.

Fuck incels and the numales who give them empty advice. Truth is, no one knows what they’re doing. My girlfriend is messy as fuck and I can’t cook. I’m was never going to learn to be a better cook to get girls - anyone who tells you to do try things you don’t like to get girls is giving you shitty advice. Only a virgin numale would tell you to pick up a hobby to get laid.

In this life you can literally only be your best self and keep trying. Worry about yourself and good thing may or may not come, but at least you did your best and can be satisfied with who you are. Fuck what society values about a man. Society is bullshit anyway.

Never take advice from numales who will compliment lonely females to death hoping for sex, and then the next day tell some suicidal virgin guy that he isn’t entitled to love. Numales are cancer. Even feminists hate them even though they don’t know why.

hahahahaha fucking virgins

holy fuck thats a lotta words. just go outside and meet some girls, maybe stop being such fuckin' dorks

>>73316

You forgot "just b yourself".

>>73316

> just go outside and meet some girls

In my diaper or no?

Show me an incel and I'll show you a guy who thinks he deserves a girl way more attractive and stable than he will ever be.

>be poor

>be into cross dressing/diapers

>get told the reason you're not getting ladies, is because you dress like a slob and don't have a good job

>get a good job and dress like you have that job

>still don't get laid

>get told money/good job doesn't mean shit when it comes to dating

>realize you're fundamentally flawed as a human being and will never know love

>>73366

So if I show you an incel you will show me yourself?

>>73366

It isn't necessarily that simple.

I imagine most of them are well aware that they're at the wrong end of the attractiveness bell curve. It's easy to say "just lower your standards", but I don't think anyone has conscious control over such things. If the set of people you find attractive doesn't intersect with the set of people who find you attractive, you're just shit out of luck.

Blaming people won't solve the problem either. The only solution I can foresee is a technological one, but we're at least a few decades away from that.

>>76754

you mean turning yourself into a baby in both body and mind, and give yourself up to adoption right?

Because I don't see any other way I can wipe my head clean of all the pre-judice and resentment towards the average 6/10 chick who thinks they can do a lot better than a dude with his own apartment, a stable job but is a 4/10 at the end of the day, I have lowered my standars way more than I felt comfortable doing and I still couldn't pull it off so I think I'll just have to fucking deal with it and simply dedicate myself to beta stuff like vidya, anime & the ocassional pro-mommy to get some fake love from time to time.

>>76754

>The only solution I can foresee is a technological one, but we're at least a few decades away from that.

I'm sorry but I can't get over this. I really hope you're not serious.

>>76827

Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of artificial partners. Some people won't like the idea, but I think they just don't realize just how insignificant humans are going to be in 1000 years time. When we are no longer capable of making any meaningful contributions, why not retreat into hedonistic virtual environments?

Resetting yourself to babyhood would be philosophically equivalent to death, so I'd treat that as an option of last resort.

>>76754

>>76754

You could get blind drunk.

I know a lot of guys who use alcohol to lower their standards temporarily. With powerful enough beer goggles an obese woman becomes 'curvy'.

But they have to wake up the next day with a she beast and deal with that instead.

>>76862

I can't speak for anyone else, but that doesn't sound like it's worth it.

It might satisfy your physical needs, but so does masturbation for a fraction of the effort. Emotionally that kind of lifestyle would just be hollow and depressing.

A few things that I commonly see from "incels".

- Standards that are too high. Expect gorgeous women with lots of options to choose them. At the same time, they denigrate women they don't consider attractive.

- Do little to nothing to actually initiate a romantic encounter. They expect women to initiate and get upset when they don't.

- The types of people that actually make arguments in favor of involuntary celibacy tend to be the type that very few people want to even be friends with - let alone lovers.

- Victim mentality. Every problem in their life is someone else's fault. They believe they are essentially flawless - other than being physically unattractive.

In general, women are a lot deeper than men are. Men overwhelmingly choose women based on appearance alone. Women can overlook appearance if you have more to offer - stability, motivation, ambition, sense of humor, etc. I see beautiful women with ugly guys all the time and it's rarely about money. Those guys tend to be just genuinely cool people - fun to talk to, hilarious and caring.

>>72927

reddit…

>>76895

Yeah, its your next destination. And your previous one as well. Wish you could just stay there.

>>76893

If reducing the problem down to a strawman hasn't solved it the previous million times, why do people keep expecting it to help?

I probably come under ugly attention whore category but I have a very rewarding abdl life surrounded by other littles, going to events, and a string of possible daddies to cherry pick from. Along with a steady stream of free diapers people buy me. Jokes on OP really

>>76937

Kinda sounds like you just hate women.

>>76893

Is wanting a girl who isnt so clinically obese that she cant get pregnant and will die in her 40s really too high standards?

Because the way I look at it, if you look after your body so badly that it cant even serve a biological function, that is on you, not me.

>>76905

>If reducing the problem down to a strawman hasn't solved it the previous million times, why do people keep expecting it to help?

Every incel wants a girl who is 9 foot tall. Thats why they dont get laid.

Prove me wrong.

>"Incel" whines that they can't get laid

> Won't consider fucking anything else than "Stacy".

> Will not even attempt to better themselves in anyway, whether it be in looks, career, or education.

> Blames women for it.

You are fucking pathetic and dug your own grave from which you refuse to get up from, because you are so entitled that you think it is someone else's job.

You are kinda like that female CEO, who sit in the high up in the 1%, has university papers. Then wonders why they can't find a man who is AT LEAST as successful and wealthy as they are. And that is because 99.9% of every potential mate is below them in society. Then she blames it on men.

>"Where have all the good men gone".

You know what you incels should do? Date a blind girl. Because they can't judge you by your looks, so only reason they'd turn you down is because your personality is ugly as sin.

Note: I'm not a successful ladies man, not a chad. I lost my virginity in mid-20s, and haven't had a girl since. Why? Because I realized that I'm not that interested in just sex. I want something more. Then I realized… I don't want a girl… I want a WOMAN, a mature woman who knows something about life and doesn't live in the youth fantasy land.

Seriously… I set my aim to 4-5 years older women, and realized that they are way better company and relationship material than those that are younger than me. So I guess my dad was right… My mom is 5 years older than my dad.

>>77057

see

>>76905

>>77057

Sounds like that female CEO at least had something to give. Incels are pathetic pieces of shit that feel entitled despite being absolute fucking moronic losers that contribute nothing to society.

Incels are like the socially more acceptable version of a little. Their mommies let them wear diapers a tad too long, turning them into entitled spoiled brats. To them, keeping their pants dry is as hard as getting laid. They think it's the woman's job to ensure they don't have accidents. If a woman ever says "no" and tells the incel to change their own pants or diapers, the incel will throw a massive temper tantrum. They think the wetness in their crotch is everyone's fault except their own lack of self control. Poor baby incel. They sit in their bodily waste for long periods of time, growing itchier and angrier by the minute. The hopeless ones turn to redpill where they come up with convoluted strategies to "trick" a woman to change their pants or diaper. These plans never work, but they find some comfort in having their feelings validated by other entitled incels that can't be bothered with using the potty. They might even offer to change each other's diapers. This leads to their discovery of how different their pee-pees are from their own. They get a little too curious and eventually cum on themselves. This only increases the incels' need for a diaper change, and their cries are even louder than ever before. Of course, they'll try to convince themselves, with an excessive amount of effort, that everything they just did a moment ago was not gay.

>>77059

generalizations can be helpful occasionally

>>77126

That's certainly what /pol/ like to believe.

Generalizations are psychologically appealing because they allow you to escape from the complexity of reality into a world where every decision is simple and everyone who disagrees with you is subhuman scum. It feels good to pretend you're in that world, but it's almost never helpful.

>>73042

I found it kind of hilarious that an incel typing the OP post has his Stacy babysitter come in and gets him ready for bedtime.

>>77133

Good point.

Pol is generally right about everything so whatever they are doing must be correct.

>>77126

Generalizations are fine. Straw men are just silly.

Check this guys post out and you will see what I mean.

>>77125

Its an entire paragraph made only from straw man arguments.

>>77279

>whatever /pol/ are doing must be correct.

You mean zealously supporting a corrupt war-monger while insisting he's totally different from all the other corrupt war-mongers? Or voting for the most ardently pro-Israel candidate while LARPing as Jew-hating Nazis?

10 years ago /pol/ could be said to have a reasonably good understanding of politics, but now it's just a cult full of Facebook-tier Republicans and teenage LARPers.

>>77284

>>77284

>You mean zealously supporting a corrupt war-monger while insisting he's totally different from all the other corrupt war-mongers?

I dont get who you are referring to?

>>77289

Trump, obviously.

For an anti-war, anti-Jewish president he certainly manages to get involved in a lot of foreign wars and give a lot of support to Israel. /pol/ have spent the last few years convincing themselves he's just playing 5 dimensional chess and is secretly on their side.

>>77290

The consensus on pol at the moment is that trump is bad because hes not 'literally hitler'. Seriously go and check it out if you dont believe me.

The warmonger comment is what really threw me. Drumpfs generals resigned cos he pulled out of Syria. And of course the two Korean leaders say he was instrumental in their peace process.

Hes not much of a warmonger at this point in time.

>>77291

America has finished laying waste to Syria and now they're moving onto Venezuela - all under Trump's leadership. Just wait and see. You're as naive as the Democrats who thought Obama was going to close Guantanamo.

Last time I was on /pol/ you got banned for questioning Trump's glorious perfection, but admittedly I haven't been there in over a year.

>>77292

The US would have laid waste to Syria but Obamas invasion plan was voted down by the UK parliament. Where I am represented.

In the end all they really did was make up a few fake gas attacks with their white helmet puppets.

You should try pol again now with the new moderation team. Since you hate Drumpf you would fit right in.

Happy Valentine's Day! :D

>>77280

>Its an entire paragraph made only from straw man arguments.

Sure, why not. The reason why I wrote all that was for my own erotic enjoyment. I had a brief moment where I fantasized about having an incel. Not as a partner, but as a pet.

>>72982

>If an "incel" gets really desperate for a woman, they can simply travel the world. Different countries have different values and women over the world are different and seek different things from a man. If all else fails, just travel to any shithole country and "buy" yourself a wife. There's plenty of places where women are so poor they'll settle for anyone with enough money to travel to their country to begin with.

But would she both diaper me and keep it a secret?

>>73366

No girl has ever asked me out. Ever.

>>78984

>girls

>asking men out

There's your problem

>>77333

You weren't alone in your enjoyment, and spawned a dystopia world setting where an increasing number of helicopter parents makes the dating scene difficult.

Imagine insulting a diapered incel and later getting a rant from their overly-protective mommy that explains their loser son is a good boy that deserves a date that she insists on being at to help their hood boi, to the point where you're practically just dating their mom and cucking them on a whole new level.

>>78985

Well how else is he going to go on a date where she pays for everything. It's customary for the person asking to pay the night.

>>78983

Sure, if you find the right person. I've found women willing to indulge me and keep it secret, both for free (GF) and for money (hooker who had never done it before, but described herself as one who made fantasies into reality and who had done scat before, which made me confident she'd accept to baby me). At some point, no one really cares what gets you off and both GFs and hookers are more than willing to make you happy, by definition. Then again, people who identify as incels are too spectrautistic to take the steps required to find someone and be happy, which is the real issue.