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 No.41202>>41208 >>41212 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Why we like diapers so much? Ive tried multiple times to "get rid" of this fetish multiple time but I always end up back at diapers. Are we paedophiles?

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 No.41208

>>41202 (OP) No, we're just weirdos, you're gonna be a weirdo as long as you live, has nothing to do with kids.


 No.41210

Are you sexually attracted to children? If no, you aren't a pedo.


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>Are we paedophiles?

Allow me to throw a controversial view here, because I want to see the circus catching fire.

There is something called "Erotic Target Location Error", which was theorized by Ray Blanchard, a famous Canadian sexologist. It's basically an error in the source of sexual pleasure of an individual, in which one gets excited with the idea of themselves BEING the thing or the people by which they are attracted.

The most famous example of this would be, according to Blanchard, men who get excited by imagining themselves as women -- being a woman, dressing as a woman, acting like a woman, being treated as a woman and so and so forth. According to Blanchard these people would be straight men… that were attracted by women originally, but who… ended up projecting onto themselves their attraction for females. Blanchard calls this "Autogynephilia" and says that one the categories that compose transsexual people would be these ones.

And what the hell this has to do with infantilism and ABDL? Well, this erotic target location error manifests itself in many shapes and forms. Basically, Blanchard argues, infantilists would be pedophiles that had an erotic target location error, but ended up projecting onto themselves their sexual desire for children.

They want to become what they are attracted to. Or, to better put: “They interpreted infantilism as an erotic target location error for persons whose erotic target is children, that is, infantilism as an autoerotic form of pedophilia ”

Now, Blanchard work is pretty controversial, and it's not set in stone, but I find a plausible possibility. He talks about this in his 1993 paper "Erotic target location errors in male gender dysphorics, paedophiles, and fetishists" (link in the bottom)

Sources:

• Ray Blanchard - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Blanchard

• Erotic Target Location Error - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic_target_location_error

• Blanchard's transsexualism typology - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanchard%27s_transsexualism_typology#Autogynephilia

• Erotic target location errors in male gender dysphorics, paedophiles, and fetishists.

http://sci-hub.io/10.1192/bjp.162.4.558


 No.41212

>>41202 (OP)

>Are we paedophiles?

Some of us are, but given the picture you chose to post you're probably just normalfag trash.

The term lolicon might be more appropriate though, since I'd never do anything with any real child.

>>41211

I feel pedophilia and infantilism are quite distinct. Pedophilia is fundamentally an attraction to certain aesthetic qualities which happen to be common among children and rare among adults. To me, "cute" and "sexy" are pretty much equivalent in meaning.

Infantilism, or at least my version of it, falls more into the BDSM category of fetishes. It's all about creating the contrast between the dominant carer and the helpless child.

I would say my pedophilia is strictly one-way. I am attracted to little girls, and I couldn't be attracted to some old granny even if I was a little girl myself. At most I'd be attracted to the situation in general.

My infantilism goes both ways, however. When I feel submissive I want to be treated like an infant, but when I feel dominant I want to treat a little girl like an infant. I guess it's because that's the only kind of "sex act" my subconscious can relate to. The vast majority of my fantasies involve lolis who also have an infantilism fetish and enjoy being treated that way.

I almost feel psychologists are wasting their time trying to come up with simple hypotheses about how the brain works. The brain isn't simple. If you can summarize your idea in four words, it's almost certainly wrong. I'm certain there is some link between infantilism and pedophilia, but the only solid explanation will come from neurobiology and it will be very long and difficult to understand.


 No.41214

>>41211

Hate to rock the boat some more in regards to your sound thoughts but there is a chance that a lot of people might just be ab for no reason other than the fact that it is common for people to think of wanting to be a child again in general.


 No.41215

>>41211

How does this theory work for people who are strictly DL though? People who only like diapers but want nothing to do with the baby aspect of the fetish


 No.41216

>>41211

>the patient had been born without an anus

/r/ing pics


 No.41218>>41219

>>41211

Would that mean women into petplay are attracted to doggos? I seriously doubt it. My need to be babied existed before puberty. That need simply merged with the libido once the libido developed. I think that it's as simple as that, really. You turn a pleasurable act into something more pleasurable.

There are a lot of bondage elements to ageplay. Lots of power dynamics at work. It's basically bondage with a twist and a different wardrobe. "Humiliation" but in a gentle way. It can be sadomasochistic depending on what the individual is getting out of it.

There is the neglect component to look into as well. Sometimes that leads to a person seeking that type of affection and since we are adults add sexuality to the mix. The childish objects furthers the power dynamic. Making the person feel helpless yet secure just like a child.

There's so many theories about why. What's agreed on is that it doesn't seem that concerning so it hasn't been studied as a result.

If the person were attracted to children, that focus wouldn't be on adults with adult genitalia.


 No.41219

>>41218

The objects give rise to a childlike persona. Since the individual is also an adult with adult needs sometimes sexuality falls into it. It becomes easy to merge the two toddertime website on infantilism seems to be the best description of the psychological factors of infantilism in my view. Going by my own experiences and what I've noticed.


 No.41224>>41231

>>41211

I appreciate a discussion and dissenting opinions, and maybe this theory works for some ABDLs but I really don't think so for me.

For one thing, I'm attracted to women. Adult women. Fully developed boobs and butts get me off. I'm attracted to seeing women wear diapers and act like babies.

I'm also aroused by the idea of wearing diapers and being treated like a baby myself. But most of those fantasies revolve around receiving love and affection from a maternal figure.

And if you want to go with another psychology theory and say that the reason I'm into all this stuff is because I lacked affection or care from my parents at a young age, that doesn't really seem right either. I had a very normal childhood and both my parents were around and showed love and affection.

Quite frankly, I think that for me at least, I was just born this way. There are psychologists who think that there's a biological explanation for fetishism, since there were monkeys who received damage to the cerebellum and started trying to fuck inanimate objects.

My earliest memory is of me as a toddler, walking around my parents kitchen and just enjoying the sensation of being in a diaper. These thoughts have been with me all my life, and they didn't turn sexual until I hit puberty.

Some people get into this stuff in different ways, and there are probably a myriad of psychological causes leading someone to be ABDL, but suggesting that we're all pedophiles who are displacing our desires onto diapers and children's clothes, seems like a bit of a stretch.


 No.41231

>>41224

Just commenting on the neglect factor. I didn't mean to suggest that it's the norm but that it happens enough times to be considered significant. Significant enough that it should raise a red flag for therapists so they can explore that as a possibility.

It does seem like a stretch that one would misplace their attraction for children onto childlike objects especially when that individual craves an adult figure with adult body parts.

I'm bi and like adult features in my maternal figures. Actually, in my twenties, I used to like "spinners". Petite and short women. But I noticed that as I got older, my tastes slowly changed. I now like full bodied and shapely latina women (Think Miss Kelly Martina from clips4). Same for men. I used to have a thing for thinky guys but as I got older now have a hankering for wolves. Gay slang for a man that is handsome but has kind of scruffy look about them Usually older guys with salt and pepper hair. This guys a good example: https://youtu.be/7uBJ-DUOa58

Having said that, I'm sure there are some pedos among us, but that goes for every single group. Besides, even if they were pedos, it's better for them to focus their energy on this then on children. A far better outlet I would say.


 No.41233

I don't even like being around actual children

- atleast not in the ages where they typically wear diapers. At most I like checking out their padded bottoms.

So atleast in my case any crossover with attraction to actual children isn't there.


 No.41245

>Ive tried multiple times to "get rid" of this fetish multiple time but I always end up back at diapers.

dunno if this is bait becuase many AB/DLs worry about this, but it's because sexual orientation correction isn't a thing, no matter how much amerkans would like you to believe.




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