/a/ - Animu & Mango

>>934758

Where is the superior 2hu version?

>>934755

Switching magazines is often quite bad for any series. For something like Umaru, which is a pretty one note premise that was already turning people away after only a few episodes, it must have been especially disastrous.

>main character is the definition of a mary sue

>brother is denser than a neutron star

>keep postponing the only event that could have any chance of breaking the mary sue status of the MC

I'm surprised it took so long to die.

>>934755

I tried to be Watamote with none of the charm, then Watamote became something completely different (much worse, at that) and the show had no one else to copy.

I could have tolerated Umaru if she didn't treat her brother like shit. She's one of the closest 2D recreations of a 3DPD imouto.

>>934755

>Ebina will now be forever alone

But that's wrong. She had her own spinoff series without a trace of Umaru, and thus leagues better than the main manga. Lasted 18 chapters but ended conclusively with her four friends swearing to stick together for life.

>That doesn't count because she doesn't get nii-san.

A life with nii-san would be a life with Umaru. It wouldn't have been a victory.

I found her chibi form adorable, and I feel bad when I see her crying.

>>935677

>>935683

The duality of man.

The author fucked up, he had a million opportunities to make "Umaru eats shit and learns a lesson" chapters but instead she just wins every single time without putting any effort into anything, she just blackmails her brother and does things perfectly without trying too hard. That gets old fast.

The hamster form is very aesthetically pleasing, I was even tempted to get a nendo, but how long can one cute version of a reviled character keep a series afloat? Not even the eleven with their legendary shit taste maintained interest in her.

>>935705

Umaru could have still been a lazy shit who loves to eat junk food and play vidya all the time as long she wasn't completely annoying and downright evil to people around her. Like, if she just had a decent relationship with her brother and used her natural gifts to help him out, like helping him study at the least, then the gimmick could have been drawn out more easily instead of wearing on nerves immediately.

>>935686

Pseud.

Why don't people understand unsympathetic protagonists?

>>935726

There is a recent trend of people screeching whenever a character that isn't supposed to be likeable turns out to be unlikeable, but Umaru doesn't fall under that clause because she's the lynchpin of the entire show. You can't base an entire show around an unlikeable cunt who also has her way all the time and expect it to have lasting appeal. You don't have a story when you do that, you just have a premise that will hook people for a time.

It's a shame because the author can do better than this, the Ebina spinoff is genuinely charming.

>>935740

What if it's funny though?

>>935726

Unsymapthetic protagonists work if they face adversity or are entertaining to watch. Umaru was very annoying and became hateable (which can be done in a way that's entertaining) enough to make people not want to read her manga or watch her anime.

>>935741

Funny only gets you so far. Even a slapstick protagonist has to be relatable in some way. Umaru is pretty much the opposite of relatable because of her perfect side. A comedy character is supposed to be the bullied, not the bully, and that's why so many people hate her.

>>935742

Yes, the side characters were all pretty good, which is why I hope the author gets to make another series that isn't centered around the worst idea for a protagonist.

Umaru was a cunt and I'm glad the series went out with a whisper.

I thought Ebina had her own spin off series and won.

I hope they animate that.

Good, it was Reddit the anime if there ever was one, but it was so bad even they thankfully didn't want it.

>>935745

"Relatable" is a meme, anon, and it's the modern bane of media.

Umaru's problem is that she didn't have more comeuppance or getting bullied/redeeming herself somehow, while also advancing the plot or development.

Good riddance.

>>935870

Why does she need to get a comeuppance? Not everything's a morality play. It was just a light comedy series about a throughly awful human being. It was funny.

>>935876

Commeupance isn't about morality, far from it. It's about an unlikeable character getting to be someone the audience can like after all. It's not a commentary, it's storytelling.

>>935876

Because not many will find her traits funny, even moreso if she's the main character, and in an industry where these works want to have wide mass appeal, it will suffer in sales or recognition.

Compare King of the Hill and the Goode Family from the same creator. King of the Hill throws many jabs at a certain group, conservative Southern Americans, but without being too mean-spirited, also they're likeable and memorable.

Goode Family now throws jabs at a liberal family, and to many stereotypes they have, like veganism, always wanting to help out others even if it's detrimental, a more conservative grandfather that disapproves, a sexually active daughter that's a total hypocrite and only does good deeds for the attention, them forcing a dog to be vegan even if he's clearly unhealthy as hell. I can buy the idea that real life groups protested about this portrayal, but when you watch a couple episodes as an outsider, it's just no too appealing or funny, because it's more like running a checklist, but the characters don't have the same good traits as KotH, especially when they go back to square one. Even if you're supposed to hate them, you have to put other elements to balance it out. In wrestling, there's a difference between "he's the evil guy, I must boo him because he's evil, therefore he's not good" hate, and "please fuck off and never step on the ring or appear in my tv" hate.

>>935870

It's not even comeuppance or anything, compare Umaru to the MC of Sabagebu who is also a total cunt and gets away with it.

It's that Umaru is just not funny but simply annoying.

Good riddance.

That's not true.

I care.

>>936480

This really makes me think. They could serialize something with a cute girl that just screeches incoherently, and there will still be a subset die-hard fans who will love it regardless.