No.927250
It's finally the best day of the month.
No.927305
My sides, this manga never dissapoints.
No.927306
It's enjoyable but I can't stand how every manga moves at a slug's pace. I should just check in once every few years.
No.927307
>>927251
>the fairy gets transmuted into the staff
Neat.
That elf is much more Marcille-like than the others.
No.927309
>>927307
>tfw your granddaughter uses dark magic
Not like that's impossible, considering elven livespans.
No.927310
>>927306
I'll take toppest shelf quality once a month over weekly shit on a sheet.
>>927305
>this
>the multi-purpose fairy
>the merman sashimi
>Captain teleporting into the pillar
This chapter was full of things like that. Had a good giggle.
No.927315
>>927306
I haven't touched Berserk since they got on the ship. I was going to binge it once they got off, but at this rate I think I'll just read it when it's done.
No.927316
>>927315
>when it's done
Anon, I....
No.927321
>>927305
Didn't know female dwarves have dicks.
No.927324
So which elves are male and which are female?
Brown and Pattdohl are obviously female. The Captain I can only see as male, especially after some of the panels this chapter. The long-haired one going around bare-chested is presumably male. One of the other two had clear breasts last chapter. The shortest one, with the piercings, I haven't seen any giveaways for.
Taking the order with them lined up in >>927255 it would be
> ?, M, F, F, F, M
No.927325
>>927324
>Captain is male, despite the curves and the hair
I think you need new glasses, anon.
They're all female. Otta is just a flat tomboy elf mage or maybe a trap, you never know with these knife ears
No.927326
>>927324
There is no such thing as a male elf. Only female and female(male) elves exist.
No.927327
>>927325
These are male shoulders even by human standards.
No.927328
>>927325
My elf masturbation material will contain only Marcille, until others sex is confirmed beyond doubt.
No.927344
>>927328
>not fapping already to sweet brown elf as well
Marcille is still top elf, though
>>927327
>what are muscles and a fit body
>human standards
In any case, in the fight scene they refer to the captain as "her" anyway. You could check in original moonrunes to be sure.
I think the only one who's openly expressed ambiguously (as, no idea if male or female) is the Mad Sorcerer
No.927349
You may not like it but this is what a peak female elf body looks like.
No.927351
>>927344
>in the fight scene they refer to the captain as "her" anyway
Where? I see a plural, and "that elf", but I didn't notice any third person singular.
The raws (for 45 and 53, couldn't find 54) don't have anything that I saw. It's all あれ and こいつ, or the typical complete omission. There weren't even any first person pronouns I saw that might give a hint. Then again, I don't speak the language.
No.927354
>>927353
That explains it. We're reading different translations.
No.927355
>>927353
Actually, the same translation, different versions. EHScans revised it to remove the "her" specifically because the raws give no answer.
No.927358
>>927353
Also some random guy calling elf "her" is not a real evidence.
No.927439
>>927353
>using the gendered pronouns in an English translation as proof of anything
English forces you to assume someone's sex or go with the singular they because it's a shit language. Japanese is a lot more ambiguous and you really have to go out of your way to specify someone's sex.
No.927589
Good chapter. I don't really like Kabru but I suppose he isn't all bad. I never liked "I am the only one who can do it" types like he was at first.
No.927667
>>927439
>English forces you to assume someone's sex or go with the singular they because it's a shit language
Hey, fuck you, languages assuming gender of everything are the best. English is indeed a shit language, but not because of that. It's not even that good at doing it
No.927671
>>927667
No, you faggot. If you don't have at least an option of keeping shit gender-neutral that's a horrible limitation when you try to talk about someone whose sex you don't know or something that doesn't have any, like weird space aliens.
No.928301
>german release in late 2019
Finally. Sure took them long enough.
No.928319
>>927439
>English forces you to assume someone's sex or go with the singular they because it's a shit language.
It doesn't, its just that thanks to feminist education most people are too stupid to understand that there is a difference between the grammatical gender and the biological sex of people described in a body of text.
All Germanic languages have grammatical genders, which are predominantly groups of words based on the sounds of a word and word endings and which only in a tertiary side function are use to determine the biological sex for a couple of words.
The original language to which the Germanic languages go back to is speculated to have four grammatical genders, the fourth grammatical gender died out and some later Germanic languages also got rid of the third grammatical gender.
As a result of this reduction the English language has to uses the grammatical masculine and/or grammatical feminine to talk about objects that are sexless or sexually undetermined.
No.928323
>>928319
English dropped the ball when it kept the gendered pronouns but not gendered nouns, because now you can't describe someone as a noun and then match the pronoun to the gender of that noun while leaving the person's actual sex ambiguous. The two are now linked, and not by any feminist indoctrination but just linguistically by the fact that the pronouns are loaded with too much meaning and nothing to spend it on other than someone's actual sex.
If you want to talk about someone and leave any sort of ambiguity about the gender you either have to jump through awkward hoops (like how I just did by saying "the" instead of "his/her"), go with a very clearly deliberately ambiguous singular "they" which just looks suspicious or just flat out default to a masculine which is just going to make things awkward if it turns out whoever you were talking about was a woman and there isn't an overt "You're a girl!?" scene. It's especially bad considering how reliant English is on using pronouns to express really basic things.
No.928416
>>927671
>English has no gender neutral option.
That niche used to be filled by They/Them, which could be singular or plural. Or “it” for describing non-humans.
No.928424
>>928416
I thought singular "they" was still used, even though I think it sounds awful.
No.928443
>>928424
Other way around; singular they is relatively rare in older material, while it's quite common today.
Either way, it sounds terrible and I will laugh at you if you use it in a formal context.
No.928458
>>928323
>English dropped the ball...
Nah English it not at fault here, it worked perfectly for several hundred years. The problem here is the author trying to sell you tranny ideology as world building and you are falling for it hard.
People in the past didn't need language to know if an adventurer, warrior or mage is male or female, because they had social standards that determined it.
On top of that the way how sexuality evolved into different sexes makes it impossible for no sexual dimorphism to exist in a specie that has male and females.
>...when it kept the gendered pronouns but not gendered nouns, because now you can't describe someone as a noun and then match the pronoun to the gender of that noun while leaving the person's actual sex ambiguous.
That shit isn't even possible in German. The only real way to keep the sex ambiguous in German is indirect formal speech, despite German having a gendered form for any type of word.
>The two are now linked, and not by any feminist indoctrination but just linguistically...
They are not, grammatical gender and biological sexes are two different things. For example "he" is not only masculine, but also the generic neutral pronoun in the English language and has been for a good 300 years.
The only ones that complain about this fact are feminist retards or people who don't understand linguistics.
No.928463
>>928458
>People in the past didn't need language to know if an adventurer, warrior or mage is male or female, because they had social standards that determined it.
You know those aren't real, right? You can assume everyone who's a soldier is a man because soldiers are actually real. Wizards not so much.
>On top of that the way how sexuality evolved into different sexes makes it impossible for no sexual dimorphism to exist in a specie that has male and females.
You what?
>They are not, grammatical gender and biological sexes are two different things.
Technically, but in practice English has no grammatical gender being used in the language. Linguists aren't the ones who dictate how language works, it's how the average idiot interprets it. So when you have these pronouns that by their definition convey a gender, the only way they're going to be interpreted is as biological sex, because there's nothing else for that gender aspect of the word to refer to.
No.928464
>>928458
>People in the past didn't need language to know if a mage is male or female
Of course. Just look at the Arthurian legends, with Merlin and Morgan.
>feminist retards
>the author trying to sell you tranny ideology
It's a magical elf living in a dungeon filled with ghosts, dragons, and living paintings. Get your head out of your ass.
In case you've forgotten where you are, this is /a/. The author's not trying to sell us anything with pronouns, because it was written in Japanese without using them.
>grammatical gender and biological sexes are two different things
Grammatical gender barely exists in English anymore outside of pronouns and professions, and has become inextricable from sex. Even the case of using gendered pronouns for inanimate objects, like ships, it is done with a sense of personification, not simply as a matter of grammar.
Using "he" generically isn't because it's a true neuter, but because the language can't express neutrally and you have to just pick one. Three people can see one cat, each use a different pronoun, and all be valid, because without knowing the sex all you can do is either guess or use "it".
No.928467
>>927250
I still don't get why some people insist that Marcille being an half-elf theory was disproven. I feel like we are living in brain dead time where common sense is muddled by senseless unsubstantiated non-arguments.
No.928502
>>928458
>The problem here is the author trying to sell you tranny ideology as world building and you are falling for it hard.
What? Are you just shitposting or are you actually this dumb?
>>928467
>I still don't get why some people insist that Marcille being an half-elf theory was disproven.
Isn't that mainly one guy who's buttmad about the theory existing in the first place?
I get the feeling this might come up in the story soon. Maybe the Kabrelf party will meet that loser party from the start and the elves will note how Halfelves are relatively common in this kind of business.
>What do you mean "Halfelves"?
<Oh, right. Non-elves are usually not able to tell them appart from us.
Or I'm completely wrong about everything. We'll see.
No.928559
>>928502
>Isn't that mainly one guy who's buttmad about the theory existing in the first place?
It is mostly the general frustration I had because I had to go to the other site because my country banned this website. General common sense stuff like:
Toriyama most likely didn't plan to make the Potara fusions temporary with non-gods. Bulla isn't 8 years old in GT because GT and DBS aren't the part of same continuity. A "native isekai" is basically a fucking fantasy setting.
It is not just there a lot of other places. It is like I have to explain basic concepts that are so internalize that most people remember the words for them.
No.928663
>>928463
>You know those aren't real, right? You can assume everyone who's a soldier is a man because soldiers are actually real. Wizards not so much.
In the past the existence of magic was recognized as a fact by secular law and just like society in the past treated men and female different, there were different names for male and female magic users.
A woman would not be called a wizard, she would be called a wizardess and that only if they don't use other words like witch.
>>928464
>Of course. Just look at the Arthurian legends, with Merlin and Morgan.
The oldest Arthurian legends are in Latin. In Latin all nouns have genders and you change all the articles in the sentence depending on the noun they refer to, so its impossible for sexual ambiguity to exist.
>In case you've forgotten where you are, this is /a/. The author's not trying to sell us anything with pronouns, because it was written in Japanese without using them.
You have completely missed the point. I don't accuse the author of trying to sell us genderqueer pronouns. She does however use elves that are traps.
And the problem are fags that are butthurt at the Englisch language for using gendered pronouns to refer to one of those trap elves. Like its some huge tragedy that Noname Mook Nr. 25 calls Mystery Meat Elf Nr. 8 with the false pronoun.
No.928666
>>928663
>You have completely missed the point. I don't accuse the author of trying to sell us genderqueer pronouns. She does however use elves that are traps.
>Nah English it not at fault here, it worked perfectly for several hundred years. The problem here is the author trying to sell you tranny ideology as world building and you are falling for it hard.
Way to go, fag.
No.928669
>>928663
>A woman would not be called a wizard, she would be called a wizardess
And a female waiter is a waitress, but they both serve you food. It does nothing to support your point.
>In Latin all nouns have genders and you change all the articles in the sentence depending on the noun they refer to, so its impossible for sexual ambiguity to exist.
You claimed that "people in the past didn't need language to know if a mage is male or female" and you're trying to back that up by stating that people used language to distinguish between male and female mages?
>I don't accuse the author of trying to sell us genderqueer pronouns. She does however use elves that are traps.
>traps are tranny propaganda
Where did you come from?
>And the problem are fags that are butthurt at the Englisch language for using gendered pronouns to refer to one of those trap elves
The problem was that the translation introduced information not present in the original, due to the inability of the language to reflect the proper ambiguity. Most people here will agree that when a translation makes something up that is not present in the original, it's a bad thing.
I think you may have lost sight of what's being discussed. A character's sex is left unknown in Japanese. English is incapable of expressing that ambiguity, as it require pronouns much more frequently than Japanese, and lacks a sex-ambiguous personal pronoun. The failure of English to express what is intended to be expressed has caused misunderstandings about the character. That's all there is to it.
No.933458
>>933446
I want to rub my everything over those abs.
No.933500
>>933446
Senshi is so cute.
No.933541
>>933445
Damn this guy can't make up his mind.
No.933600
Fuck. Re-reading the previous chapters, I forgot how strong this moment was.
No.933617
>>933604
Got a chuckle out of me.
No.933629
No.933688
>muscle farlyn
My dick didn't even know it seemed it, but appreciates it.
No.933689