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 No.916217

Just finished this honestly I both absolutely despise and like this series and once you learn the original VN it was based on is not exactly quality you begin to understand why it gets so bad. My entire problem with the show is the fact it had such a strong beginning before the focus on Sieg things like Mordred and Kairi were honestly the best parts in the show. Like did anyone find it strange the series throws the daughter of the franchises poster girl and they barely do anything regarding her? Talking about Saber the idea of rulers is interesting and I liked Jeanne becasue of the dumb gacha however her character in this anime was absolute trash becasue "sieg-kun is so handsome and strong"

I think the real saving grace of this series has to be the side characters Achilles has got to be one of my new favorite riders in the entire franchise after Apocrypha which sucks his probably only major animated appearance is this that.

What are some of your thoughts on it?

 No.916234

>>916217

So I’m kinda a newfag when it comes to Fate but when exactly was Jeanne introduced? I know she shows up in Fate Zero but I always thought the mobile game was where she got her start.


 No.916239

>>916217

Karna is a badass. Atalanta is crazy. Achiles was fun and it was neat how they defeated him. Mordred was the best though. Mordred and the necromancer were a great pair. Amakusa can suck it though. Sieg is lame.


 No.916244

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>>916234

Originally Apocrypha was gonna be a game and Jeanne was gonna be a main character so they already had concept art for her. At the same time Zero was airing and remember Caster in that series was gilles de rais who had some history with Jeanne. The Fate version is the reason Gilles went insane was becasue he lost faith at the fact someone as pure as Jeanne was burned at the stake. So when Caster died they threw in a nice little scene of him and Jeanne however time after the Apocrypha game was canceled.

If were talking about the mobile game too Jeanne Alter came from a wish Gilles made towards the grail to bring Jeanne back to life only in a twisted version of the original.


 No.916252

>Sieg ruined it

yeah, like I know they wanted a character for adolescent males to self-insert as (I guess?) but his place in the story was not deep or complex enough to warrant that much screen time

Ironically I found I could relate the most to the jewish golemancer servant for his perspective on humans, it was a breath of fresh air from the overly exaggerated humanism of Jeanne and Atalantae. Even so, Jack and Shakespeare are tied for my least favorite characters from this series, though I didn't like Mordred either while some people did. Predictable finale of all the remaining servants (minus best girl Astolfo) killing each other

Oh yeah the sound effects were awful too, generic clang plus overbass sludge explosion, do not want


 No.916253

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>>916252

Had a pretty good soundtrack though.


 No.916255

I guess as a result of being basically F/SN fanfic, it had the same sort of flaws but more glaring. Cast bloat, wonky characterization (idealistic motivations portrayed poorly, melodrama, etc), chuuni to the point of self-indulgence, etc. Some of them were fun to watch though and the animation blowouts at a few points were neat. I didn't hate it but the Jeanne/Sieg combo is definitely the weak link.

It's both a good and bad thing, but what you also see with both this and especially now with GO is that they cast about as wide a net as possible in terms of character appeal in order to sell it. You've got something for the purityfags, the arafags, the lolifags, the fujoshits, the tomboyfags, everything.


 No.916263

>>916255

I liked the idea of team based holy grail war but to much characters does leave to little story.

Fate/Royale when 100 servants 100 Masters


 No.916288

>My entire problem with the show is the fact it had such a strong beginning before the focus on Sieg things like Mordred and Kairi were honestly the best parts in the show. Like did anyone find it strange the series throws the daughter of the franchises poster girl and they barely do anything regarding her?

The whole concept of Apo started with Sieg. Jeanne wasn't ruined at all. Achilles was ok. Stop whining.


 No.916312

>>916263

Isn't that basically the moon cell? Is the Extra anime even worth watching or is it the same nero Saber wank everything else related to Extra is about?


 No.916313

Is there a 'correct' order to watch Fate, or can you watch things relatively independently? I played the original VN, and have seen the last two FSN movies and want to go back and catch up with everything that's been released. I don't want to turn into a Fatefag, but Rider is worth slogging through everything.


 No.916318

>>916313

>Is there a 'correct' order to watch Fate, or can you watch things relatively independently?

The correct order is the same as the correct order of anything else: release order.


 No.916376

>>916318

And that includes all the comedy/slice of life spin offs like Carnival Phantasm and Today’s Menu for the Emiya family


 No.916388

>>916313

Read the VNs. Then weep at the fact that every fucking parallel universe between that and the animes is fucking canon thanks to Grand Fucking Order


 No.916423

>>916388

Isn’t that new Fate anime coming later this year from FGO and is the best story in it?


 No.916474

Mordred is best girl.


 No.919014

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>>916239

>>916217

I was more a fan of Dracul, but the thing about the vampire myth being his NP which he hates breaks it a little, I would rather give him something like the impalement forest reality marble or something.

>>916376


 No.919048

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All these oppressors not mentioning Spartacus as best anything in Apocrypha.


 No.919252

Apocrypha is one of the few series I have felt actually compelled to drop, and I say this as a blatant Fatefag. Jeeg and Jeanne were awful because the story didn't seem to punish them anywhere near as much as Zero did Saber and Kiritsugu, or as much as Stay Night did Shirou. It just kept showing us glimpses of characters I wanted to see more of.

>>916312

I liked Extra but the anime is really geared towards people who played the games. PSP emulators are pretty lightweight, I got it running on my Linux toaster, so it's worth a punt if you're into Fate-themed Persona-esque dungeon crawls.


 No.919346

>>919252

All the best characters pretty much kicked the bucket before the finale. I still do not understand they add in fucking Modred the daughter of Fates cash cow and shes a side character


 No.919347

>>916388

>Then weep at the fact that every fucking parallel universe between that and the animes is fucking canon thanks to Grand Fucking Order

They were canon long before that anon. Hell, every single ending of F/SN including the bad ends is it's own canon timeline. Multiple timelines existed even before that.


 No.919353

>>919347

I also do not think FGO has any bad stories. Expect Septum fuck Septum completely ruined Nero for me.


 No.919395

>>916217

Apocrypha is a trash heap. Mordred was good. admittedly Astolfo is cute. The rest of that show was just trash.

>>916388

Well Prisma Illya is sort of in questionable canon status. It appears in FGO but they make the effort to mention that their universe is more far flung and from a different "tree" or something. Which is funny because Prisma Illya is the best spin off by a mile.




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